Turkish dynasties of Asia Minor

[Tunch Khan]

In the current scenarios all Anatolian dynasties are either greek or armenian. This might be a fact on 1066 but the game lasts for 400 years and even in the following 1187 and 1337 scenarios it's not changed. This becomes really annoying especially for the last two scenarios when a Turkish court has all its turkish moslem courtiers with greek lastnames. I've reported it as a bug but i don't think they are going to do anything about it. So i was hoping to install some Turkish dynasties to the core turkish provinces of Asia Minor. Does anyone have a good idea on how to fix this or where to start from?

 

[lucaluca]

In the current scenarios all Anatolian dynasties are either greek or armenian. This might be a fact on 1066 but the game lasts for 400 years and even in the following 1187 and 1337 scenarios it's not changed. This becomes really annoying especially for the last two scenarios when a Turkish court has all its turkish moslem courtiers with greek lastnames. I've reported it as a bug but i don't think they are going to do anything about it. So i was hoping to install some Turkish dynasties to the core turkish provinces of Asia Minor. Does anyone have a good idea on how to fix this or where to start from?

It's very simple: you can add dynasties (new ones), and set them for the anatolian provinces; the problem is that you'll get however random dynasties for new characters, so you can't choose if they will be greek or turkish... actually a long aged problem of Anatolia: be greek or be turkish, that's the problem

 

[Tunch Khan]

It's very simple: you can add dynasties (new ones), and set them for the anatolian provinces; the problem is that you'll get however random dynasties for new characters, so you can't choose if they will be greek or turkish... actually a long aged problem of Anatolia: be greek or be turkish, that's the problem

Maybe we can choose some versatile looking lastnames such as Kazan or Toros for cosmetic reasons.

 

[Tunch Khan]

After some research i have came up with some names that were not only used by Greeks and Turks, but also Armenians alike. The catch is, these being mainly professions, people used them as lastnames, but in most cases, they added "son of" at the end of the name, thus making them look like Bostanci-oglu for Turks, Bostanci-poulos for Greeks and Bostanci-yan for Armenians. Therefore i'm going to add them to Anatolian provinces until a new patch fixes this problem, because i believe this would look much better than the current odd/ugly situation.

Bostanci
Corbaci
Demirci
Kazanci
Cavush
Mercan
Yagci
Toros
Yufkaci
Karabeg
Kalayci
Semerci
Arabaci
Comlekci
Terzi
Bileyci
Dogramaci
Duvarci
Yorganci
Kuyumcu
Bardakci
Zeytinci
Uzumcu
Lambaci

 

[Tunch Khan]

You can copy the code below and paste it to your db/dynasties.txt file.

dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120001 }
	name = "Bostanci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120002 }
	name = "Corbaci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120003 }
	name = "Demirci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120004 }
	name = "Kazanci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120005 }
	name = "Cavush"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120006 }
	name = "Mercan"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120007 }
	name = "Yagci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120008 }
	name = "Toros"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120009 }
	name = "Yufkaci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120010 }
	name = "Karabeg"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120011 }
	name = "Kalayci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120012 }
	name = "Semerci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120013 }
	name = "Arabaci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120014 }
	name = "Comlekci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120015 }
	name = "Terzi"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120016 }
	name = "Bileyci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120017 }
	name = "Dogramaci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120018 }
	name = "Duvarci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120019 }
	name = "Yorganci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120020 }
	name = "Kuyumcu"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120021 }
	name = "Bardakci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120022 }
	name = "Zeytinci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120023 }
	name = "Uzumcu"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}
dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 120024 }
	name = "Lambaci"
	province = { 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 678 681 682 683 685 686 687 693 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 728 730 731 732 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 758 759 760 763 764 }
}

 

[lucaluca]

These name are fine, but they're right for an ottoman anatolia, and odd for a medieval byzantine empire... so, the only way to solve this problem ('till CK2, where hopefully the dynisties will be tied to province culture, and not to province identity) is to make work the dynasty files for the 3 secnarios: so that in 1066 we'll still get greek names, but in 1181 and 1337 turkish ones.

 

[Tunch Khan]

These name are fine, but they're right for an ottoman anatolia, and odd for a medieval byzantine empire... so, the only way to solve this problem ('till CK2, where hopefully the dynisties will be tied to province culture, and not to province identity) is to make work the dynasty files for the 3 secnarios: so that in 1066 we'll still get greek names, but in 1181 and 1337 turkish ones.

True, but for the time, i don't think they are using seperate dynasty files for different scenarios due to some problem. And i believe i have screwed something myself with the above code, so i don't recommend it until i fix the problem. Perhaps it's the dynasty id's.