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I played 2500 hours of CK2. Most of them with vanilla and some with HIP. Now I wanna try a CK2+ campaign. What starting character and goal your recommend to get the most out of a CK2+ game? I wanna experience as many unique features and events from + as possible and have fun doing so.
 
You'll enjoy trying some of the ancient religions, including Celtic (Brittania region) and Kemetic (Egypt region). Pick the scholarship focus for the event chain to start (may take a long time, several characters even, depending on traits and luck).

You may enjoy trying to become the Paulician Patriarch, a feudal religious head of a heresy of a small Christian sect. Raid, Holy War and even Crusade all of your heretic Christian brethren.

Not yet entirely finished is the Bön religion, which will eventually be able to create the Dalai Lama position. There's also a new pagan religion in Tibet.

You may enjoy starting early in Western Europe until Rollo invades Normandy and then console-switch to help him build his legacy. There might be more such characters I'm not yet aware of.
 
Whizzer said:
You'll enjoy trying some of the ancient religions, including Celtic (Brittania region) and Kemetic (Egypt region). Pick the scholarship focus for the event chain to start (may take a long time, several characters even, depending on traits and luck).
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This sounds interesting. Any way to spawn those religions in AI courts? Its a little bit boring to be the only indepentent King of a religion.
Whizzer said:
You may enjoy trying to become the Paulician Patriarch, a feudal religious head of a heresy of a small Christian sect. Raid, Holy War and even Crusade all of your heretic Christian brethren.
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LOL This one has all the features what anyone can ask for. Most likely even excommunication.
Whizzer said:
You may enjoy starting early in Western Europe until Rollo invades Normandy and then console-switch to help him build his legacy. There might be more such characters I'm not yet aware of.
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I did something similar in vanilla/ironman. Starting with harald Fairhair in 876 and conwuer the one French province from Brittany and converting to Chatholicism. Grant independence to the Norse vassals in Norway and swear fealthy to the French King. Yes I conquert England later on as a Norman.
 
You could also try bulgaria in 867, some years after the beginning of the game an event will fire: Bogomil begin to spread his heresy in the kingdom.
Bogomilism is in CK2+ a very interesting heresy, because they have many malus at the beginning, they have their own government and you will have to take many "reform" of the faith and it will become a very strong christian doctrine. But you will have many foes, especially a certain Emperor...
Personally, I tried bogomilism with Ivaylo Bardovka, the peasant "emperor" of Bulgaria from 1278 to 1279, to go more in the destruction of the "old regime" :D
 
DeathLawlie said:
You could also try bulgaria in 867, some years after the beginning of the game an event will fire: Bogomil begin to spread his heresy in the kingdom.
Bogomilism is in CK2+ a very interesting heresy, because they have many malus at the beginning, they have their own government and you will have to take many "reform" of the faith and it will become a very strong christian doctrine. But you will have many foes, especially a certain Emperor...
Personally, I tried bogomilism with Ivaylo Bardovka, the peasant "emperor" of Bulgaria from 1278 to 1279, to go more in the destruction of the "old regime" :D
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Oh yeah, that event chain is terrible... screwed my carefully planned "Elective Gavelkind" empire, and left it in ruins. But it was a fun campaign ^^
 
Krum, the duke of Karvuna in 769, is a really fun start in CK2plus, since Bulgaria is tribal rather than feudal like in vanilla. Overthrow your cousins, invade Byzantium and set up your merchant republic in Constantinople!

Playing any Jewish character into Israel is pretty neat also, since you get event chains once you restore the kingdom where the diaspora jews return to their homeland.

Muhammad II, the king of Africa in 867, is fun. Unlike the utter, ahistorical beatdown that the Aghlabids receive in vanilla, you start with actual event troops, but not enough to make the war a sure thing. Honestly one of the most enjoyable conflicts I've played through in either vanilla or plus, and then you can continue on to rebuild the Carthaginian Empire!

I've also enjoyed doing runs as vassals of the Carolingian Empire in the TOG start, where you expand your power slowly and then try to pick up the pieces after your masters collapse in on themselves. Not sure who the best ruler is for this, but I personally used the Guideschi family that rules Spoleto at the start- albeit for no particular reason aside from having a cool CoA.
 
Whizzer said:
You'll enjoy trying some of the ancient religions, including Celtic (Brittania region) and Kemetic (Egypt region). Pick the scholarship focus for the event chain to start (may take a long time, several characters even, depending on traits and luck).

You may enjoy trying to become the Paulician Patriarch, a feudal religious head of a heresy of a small Christian sect. Raid, Holy War and even Crusade all of your heretic Christian brethren.

Not yet entirely finished is the Bön religion, which will eventually be able to create the Dalai Lama position. There's also a new pagan religion in Tibet.

You may enjoy starting early in Western Europe until Rollo invades Normandy and then console-switch to help him build his legacy. There might be more such characters I'm not yet aware of.
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can you become paulician as tribal?
 
I think I go with a Egyptian restoration campaign. I will use the character editor to immediately switch to kermetic so I don't have to wait.
Thx for the suggestion to all.
 
Whizzer said:
Certainly!
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good thing ck2+ adds convrt to capital religion from rajas otherwise itd probably be tough to convert. Unless youre a tribal and have appropriate concubine i suppose
 
Ruisuki said:
good thing ck2+ adds convrt to capital religion from rajas otherwise itd probably be tough to convert. Unless youre a tribal and have appropriate concubine i suppose
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Simply send your children off to the Paulician Patriarch and have them educated.
 
I played around with the game rules and for the New World Order setting. I now started a 769 with ancient religions and let the game go by in observer mode. I will join in when some cool political ourcomes happend.
I thing more unique is impossible.
 
kmh42 said:
Is there still this 'Lucky ruler' thing I can give AI characters? And whats with Tributary CB?
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Lucky Ruler is HIP/EU4. There's no luck in CK2+, only skill.
Just kidding, but we don't promote historic outcomes like this.

What do you mean "What's with the Tributary CB"?
Edit: Ah, I'm not sure iirc, but I think you need to actually ask the ruler to peacefully give you tribute first. Should be a targeted decision on them - if they reject, you can force them through war.
 
LordPeter said:
Just kidding, but we don't promote historic outcomes like this.
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That is not my indend, obviosly with NWO and Ancient religions. I just wanted to have more AI Kingdoms. Some regions are still shattered very mcuh. But I let the game run for 80 years and now it looks better.
LordPeter said:
Ah, I'm not sure iirc, but I think you need to actually ask the ruler to peacefully give you tribute first. Should be a targeted decision on them - if they reject, you can force them through war.
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Oh ok thx!
 
I created the Empire of Egypt and the Barony of Luxor is almost finsihed. I am thinking of switching to another ancient religion character and reforming/uniting that one. Do you recommend a specific old religion?
 
Celtic has a lot of unique stuff iirc.
The more obscure ones like Berber or Tibetan pagan have less, probably because there's so little info.
 
Whizzer said:
You may enjoy starting early in Western Europe until Rollo invades Normandy and then console-switch to help him build his legacy. There might be more such characters I'm not yet aware of.
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What year does Rollo invade Normandy? Would very much want to see how the game implemented Rollo.

I am currently playing a norse campaign where I made my own Rollo and console command him to be 2 years older than Ragnar Lodbrok (also slightly improved Ragnar with console command to give him more HP and few other traits so he doesn't die from the flu like vanilla CKII), I also made Rollo & Ragnar half-brothers.

Anyway we go on lots of adventures to England and France even sacked Venice and Constantinople where we managed to capture the Roman Emperor only to later execute him in a blot (albeit i was a bit disappointed... what happened to the blood eagle? seems like everyone gets hanged in CKplus+ blots? I seem to remember blood eagles in vanilla!? or could have been another mod I was playing; in any case CKplus needs the blood eagle) (>‿◠)✌
 
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Stari0 said:
I seem to remember blood eagles in vanilla!? or could have been another mod I was playing; in any case CKplus needs the blood eagle) (>‿◠)✌
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Historical record lean towards blood eagles being a thing made up by Christians rather than a real thing iirc.
 
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