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There's been a lot of discussing Victoria 3's performance. Some people say it runs perfectly smooth the whole way through, others say it's unplayable after X number of years. Presumably the truth is somewhere in the middle. I decided to try and make a quick and easy "benchmark test" that anyone can run with a minimum of fuss to see how the game runs for them, and then share that result here. If there's enough interest, I'll try to update this thread as new patches drop.

Let's go through the process:
1. Download the attached saves (1840 and 1900 as Great Britain, from an observer game), unzip them in your documents/Paradox Interactive/Victoria 3/save games folder
2. Disable all Victoria 3 mods
3. Disable vsync, set the "maximum FPS" to Off.
4. Set graphics quality preset to Medium.
5. Turn autosaves off.
6. Restart the game in debug mode (in the Vicky3 launcher there's a "launch the game in debug mode" button that you can press).
7. Load the 1840 save, zoom out all the way, set speed to 5, check the time and unpause for a year. Ignore any events or popups, pause when you reach 1841, check the time to see how long it took for a year to pass. Note down that time. It might be boring, but preferably don't alt-tab or start up anything in the background while running this test (use your phone if you need a distraction).
8. Look at the debug deer to the bottom right of the screen. Hover over "Slow ticks". Screenshot the "Slow Tick Operations" popup.
9. Repeat steps 6 and 7 with the 1900 save.
10. Check your GPU, CPU, RAM, and whether or not the game is installed on an SSD. There are a bunch of ways to check this, you can press the Windows key and type "dxdiag", which should provide most of the information. Steam also has most of the information if you go Help -> System Information. There are third party programs that provide the same info as well. Feel free to report with more or less information if it makes things easier for you.

Here's an example of how to report your results:

GPU: GTX 1080
CPU: i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
RAM: 16GB
SSD: Yes
1840 time: 3 minutes
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
1840SlowTickOperations.png
1900 time: 7 minutes 50 seconds
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
1900SlowTickOperations.png
GPU:
CPU:
RAM:
SSD:
1840 time:
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
1900 time:
1900 Slow Tick Operations:


And just for reference, here are the minimum and recommended system requirements for Victoria 3 on Steam:
vicky3requirements.png

Edit2: While I'm not against discussion of specific results and the test itself here, I don't want the thread to be derailed by all kinds of performance discussions. If you're in any way worried about derailing this thread, use this discussion thread instead:

Edit3: Uploaded 1.3.4 beta saves (the "134" saves). 1.3.5 is now out and the 1.3.4 saves should work just fine on 1.3.5.

Edit4: 1.4.0 saves are now up.

Edit5: 1.4.2 saves are now up.

Edit6: 1.5.7 saves are now up.

Edit7: 1.6.0 saves are now up.

Edit8: 1.7.0 saves are now up, on dropbox because the forums are not working well for me right now:

Edit9: 1.7.4 saves are now up, again on dropbox:

Edit10: 1.7.6 saves are now up:

Edit11: 1.8.1 saves up:

Edit12: 1.8.3 saves up:

Edit13: 1.8.4 saves up:

Edit14: 1.8.6 saves up:
 
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How do I download the saves? It just links to a page that shows them in text format.
Should be fixed now, sorry for that. The 1900 save will be up in a minute too. Edit: Both saved reuploaded now.

This post is now used as an archive for older saves. The 1.3.2 (compatible with 1.3.3) saves are uploaded below. Once 1.3.4 and future updates are fully released, you can roll back to 1.3.2/1.3.3 on Steam and try these for comparison purposes.

1.7.0 saves uploaded to dropbox:
 

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GPU: Radeon RX 580 with 8 GB
CPU: Intel I7 4770 K at 3,5 Ghz
RAM: Corsair 16 GB 1.333 Mhz
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB

1840 time: 3:30
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
1840.jpg


1900 time: 8:32
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
1900.jpg


The deer showed 6.890 Problems at the End of 1900...
 
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GPU: Radeon RX 580 - 4 GiB VRAM Edition
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600G (6 cores, 12 threads)
RAM: 32 GiB running at 3200 Mhz - single channel (max allowed by the CPU)
SSD: 124 GiB NVME

Running on GNU/Linux Arch Operating System with CPU governor set to performance aka set to keep a steady maximum frequency of 3.9 GHz. The CPU supports overclocking but I'm not familiar with how that works and I don't like my fans loud anyhow.

1840 time: 1 minute 56 seconds
1840 Slow Tick Operations:

1840.png


1900 time: 4 minutes 30 seconds
1900 Slow Tick Operations:

1900.png
 
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GPU: Nvidia GTX 550TI, 1 GB VRAM
CPU: Intel i3-3220 at 3.3 GHz
RAM: 8 GB, 1333 MHz, 2x 4 GB, dual channel
SSD: Nope, 1TB HDD

1840 time: 6 min 29 sec
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
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1900 time: 15 min 32 seconds
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
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Darn, really my potato is only 2x slower compared to your top notch computers?
 
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GPU: NVidia GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @3.8GHz
RAM: 32GB DDR4 (4x8GB @3600 MHz)
SSD: No
1840 time: 1 minute 33 seconds
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
slowticks1840.png

1900 time: 3 minutes 59 seconds
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
slowticks1900.png


I'll second my esteemed colleague sheer lol at the number of errors in the 1900 save - you can see that "72-" under the slow ticks window, which is the first two digits of 7200 or environs error in total.
 
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GPU: Nvidia GTX 550TI
CPU: Intel i3-3220 at 3.3 GHz
RAM: 8 GB, 1333 MHz
SSD: Nope, 1TB HDD

1840 time: 6 min 29 sec
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
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1900 time: 15 min 32 seconds
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
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Darn, really my potato is only 2x slower compared to your top notch computers?

I recently upgraded my CPU from a Ryzen 2200G, mostly incentivized by this botched optimization.

It didn't fix it tho. I can't play past 1870. But I guess its x2-x3 times faster depending on the tasks.
 
I recently upgraded my CPU from a Ryzen 2200G, mostly incentivized by this botched optimization.

It didn't fix it tho. I can't play past 1870. But I guess x2-x3 times faster depending on the tasks.
Yeah, seems like GPU, HDD, RAM doesn't matter much outside of graphics.
CPU caches and amount of cores has most significant impact, along with base speed of CPU and RAM.

Results probably would be different, if you did annex all, saved game and started it in normal mode as observer and ran it for one year.
 
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GPU: Nvidia 1070 Ti
CPU: i5-8600K 4.3Ghz (Overclocked to 5Ghz)
RAM: 1x16 GB (Overclocked from 2400 mhz to 3200 mhz )
SSD: Yes

1840 Time : 2:41
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1900 Time : 6:31
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The same but without overclocking so:

CPU: i5-8600K 4.3Ghz
RAM: 1x16 GB 2400 mhz

1840 Time : 3:14
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1900 Time : 08:01
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GPU: NVIDIA TITAN Xp
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor (16 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
RAM: 32GB
SSD: Yes
1840 time: 2 min 6 seconds
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
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1900 time: 5 min 12 seconds
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
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GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor (16 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
RAM: 32GB
SSD: Yes
1840 time: 2 minutes and 20 seconds
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
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1900 time: 5 minutes and 50 seconds
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
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GPU: GeForce RTX 3070
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
RAM: 128 GB
SSD: Yes
1840 time: 1:30
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
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1900 time: 3:35
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
Slow-1900.png
 

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The problem I see with this test, however, is that it lacks player input. I'll admit, these times are actually better than what I've experienced before. Still very slow, but a bit better.

I think what the player is doing has a massive impact. From the fact players build more, population/construction growth, monstrous construction queues, etc.
 
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GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
CPU: Intel i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz
RAM: 16GB, 4x4GB
SSD: Yes

1840 time: 3:06.35
1840 Slow Tick Operations:
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1900 time: 7:34.08
1900 Slow Tick Operations:
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GPU: GTX4090
CPU: i9 13900K
RAM: 64GB 2x32 6000mhz
SSD: yes

1840 time: 1min 11sec

1840 Slow Tick Operations:
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1900 time: 2min 42sec

1900 Slow Tick Operations:
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