Full of curiosity about very strong performance of Lithuanians at hte beginning of GC I've just looked to monarchs.lit and saw this:
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 04290 }
name = "Vytautus Didysis"
startdate = { year = 1392 }
enddate = {
day = 27
month = october
year = 1430
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 7
MIL = 8
dormant = no
remark = "The victor of Tannenberg/Grunwald."
What? The victor of Tannenberg/Grunwald? I know it is popular view of old historiography but new researches have no doubts: full command of polish-lithuanians forces in the battle of Tannenberg/Grunwald was in the hands of king of Poland Wladyslaw II Jagiello. It's out of discussion in modern historiography. Well, this remark has no meaning for a game. But let's look to leaders.lit - Vytautus Didysis has this values:
movement = 4
fire = 3
shock = 4
siege = 0
So let's compare to Wladyslaw II Jagiello:
movement = 4
fire = 1
shock = 3
siege = 0
It must be mistake! Wladyslaw II Jagiello not only won the battle of Tannenberg/Grunwald in 1410. He defeated Vytautus Didysis three times in years 1382 - 1385 (near Wilno and near Troki in 1382, near Grodno (Vytautus Didysis allied with Teutonic Order) in 1385). From the other side, Witold was defeated in the great battle of Worskla in 1399 by Tatars. I admitt he won many small battles aginst russians princes of Polock, Smolensk etc. but he can't have better values as a leader than Wladyslaw II Jagiello! More, in my opinion Vytautus Didysis' values as a monarch shouldn't be better than Wladyslaw II Jagiello. Especially DIP = 7 for Vytautus compared with DIP = 6 for Wladyslaw II is ridiculous. Personal diplomatic abilities of Wladyslaw II effected in polish-lithuanian alliance against Teutonic Order and his marriage with king (yes, I know what I'm talking: with king, not queen) of Poland, Jadwiga. Eventually he was offered throne of Bohemia and Hungary. Vytautus from the other side didn't achieved nothing without help of Wladyslaw II.
I think the correct dip values for Vytautus should be 2 lower than for Wladyslaw II and I am for DIP = 7 for Wladyslaw.
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 04290 }
name = "Vytautus Didysis"
startdate = { year = 1392 }
enddate = {
day = 27
month = october
year = 1430
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 7
MIL = 8
dormant = no
remark = "The victor of Tannenberg/Grunwald."
What? The victor of Tannenberg/Grunwald? I know it is popular view of old historiography but new researches have no doubts: full command of polish-lithuanians forces in the battle of Tannenberg/Grunwald was in the hands of king of Poland Wladyslaw II Jagiello. It's out of discussion in modern historiography. Well, this remark has no meaning for a game. But let's look to leaders.lit - Vytautus Didysis has this values:
movement = 4
fire = 3
shock = 4
siege = 0
So let's compare to Wladyslaw II Jagiello:
movement = 4
fire = 1
shock = 3
siege = 0
It must be mistake! Wladyslaw II Jagiello not only won the battle of Tannenberg/Grunwald in 1410. He defeated Vytautus Didysis three times in years 1382 - 1385 (near Wilno and near Troki in 1382, near Grodno (Vytautus Didysis allied with Teutonic Order) in 1385). From the other side, Witold was defeated in the great battle of Worskla in 1399 by Tatars. I admitt he won many small battles aginst russians princes of Polock, Smolensk etc. but he can't have better values as a leader than Wladyslaw II Jagiello! More, in my opinion Vytautus Didysis' values as a monarch shouldn't be better than Wladyslaw II Jagiello. Especially DIP = 7 for Vytautus compared with DIP = 6 for Wladyslaw II is ridiculous. Personal diplomatic abilities of Wladyslaw II effected in polish-lithuanian alliance against Teutonic Order and his marriage with king (yes, I know what I'm talking: with king, not queen) of Poland, Jadwiga. Eventually he was offered throne of Bohemia and Hungary. Vytautus from the other side didn't achieved nothing without help of Wladyslaw II.
I think the correct dip values for Vytautus should be 2 lower than for Wladyslaw II and I am for DIP = 7 for Wladyslaw.