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Should be quite interesting to play but do you think the map will be detailed enough to make an accurate display of Wales at this time? The EU2 1 provence Wales is no where near detailed enough for the time period. An absolute minimum of 5 Provences. to represent Gwynedd, North and South Powys, Deheubarth and Morgannwg is needed and that would in no way be enough to show the dynastic struggles in the area. I hope there is more like 15 provinces which would be a good amount to show dynastic problems and divisions in the area. Has their been any word on this that I missed?
 
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere else that they're making many more provinces, and if you want to build a game like this I think it's very important.
 
Originally posted by nuffy
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere else that they're making many more provinces, and if you want to build a game like this I think it's very important.

There are more provinces, yes. But not in a 15:1 ratio... We have information saying it will ba abt. 900 provinces, covering an area with abt. 350-400 provinces in EU2.
 
That's still a fairly big increase, good enough I hope. I'll have to see what it's like.
 
Originally posted by nuffy
That's still a fairly big increase, good enough I hope. I'll have to see what it's like.

Yes I hope so too, I am also looking forward towards seeing the map and playing Wales lol!:p
 
Id settle for 3. 1 in the north, 1 in the center, and 1 in the south: Gwynedd, Powys, and Deheubarth. Think about the gaming applications instead of the historical/realistic ones. It was only Deheubarth and Gwynedd that mattered to the Normans as far as organized resistance. Those two princes were the only ones with resources enough to oppose the crown, the ones who led the rebellions, the ones who recaptured territory during the Anarchy, the ones who signed the treaties, and the ones who entered into vassal/ally relationships with the English king. And when there was a campaign, those two were the ultimate targets.

After 1066, the rest of Wales was gradually subjugated by the Normans. The Earl of Gloucester held the Lordship of Glamorgan, the Clares ruled Pembroke and Gwent, The Earl of Cheshire had pushed into Flint and beyond, and in the center, even after the fall of the Earls of Shropshire, the lesser marcher barons were building castles as fast as they could. And when Henry I died and it was time for resurgence, who started knocking off English castles right and left and reclaiming Cardigan and so on? Gwynedd & Deheubarth.

Like yourself, Id be disappointed to see just a one-province Wales. So if I had to pick, its Gwynedd & Deheubarth that MUST be included as separate entities.
 
With the ratio of old to new provinces being about 1-2 or 1-3 it is very realistic that Wales will only be two provinces.:)

Was kinda hoping they would add a lot more to the table which holds the province information. IIRC there were approx. 1700 provinces in EU II (including sea zones). With that many provinces just in Europe there probably could be a 1-4 or 1-5 breakdown of provinces in CK.:)
 
The designer and programmer are very secretic, the only thibng you can do is to bribe them. I guess, based on all of previor, that it will be 3-1 ratio. Sorry, I would like to have even more subdivision of the EU province but that is what they said.
 
Originally posted by Zhai
The designer and programmer are very secretic, the only thibng you can do is to bribe them. I guess, based on all of previor, that it will be 3-1 ratio. Sorry, I would like to have even more subdivision of the EU province but that is what they said.

Oh me too, I wonder if they could make more of a 6-1 ratio!:D That would be awesome...but I am statisfied hoho!!:)
 
Oh me too, I wonder if they could make more of a 6-1 ratio! That would be awesome...but I am statisfied hoho!!

Truth! At least, we are getting more province:) than as if get the same province of EU2
 
Originally posted by Zhai
The designer and programmer are very secretic, the only thibng you can do is to bribe them. I guess, based on all of previor, that it will be 3-1 ratio. Sorry, I would like to have even more subdivision of the EU province but that is what they said.

Wales was a fairly large EU province, so it would seem likely that it would get divided into more provinces than other, smaller ones...
 
Personally I don´t think the number of provs is as important as what they actually DO with the provinces. As in there should be a lot of options in every prov. If there is a lot options do play with in each prov I think lack of 10000 new provs will be forgiven.
 
Personally I don´t think the number of provs is as important as what they actually DO with the provinces. As in there should be a lot of options in every prov. If there is a lot options do play with in each prov I think lack of 10000 new provs will be forgiven.

I mostly agree with u. However, more extra province you have, more fun you will have by playing in it:)
 
Originally posted by Zhai


I mostly agree with u. However, more extra province you have, more fun you will have by playing in it:)

No arguing about that. I want more provinces as well but I won´t be upset if they don´t divide France into 100+ provinces.:)
 
Given the differing sizes of the EU provinces, I doubt that they will each be divided into the exact same number of provinces...
 
I wish they were divided in 5 provinces... :(

Hey, do you know if they are going to divide them exactly so three of them form an EU2 province, or they're making the map from scratch?
 
I dont see how they realistically can do this seeing as national borders are different at this time period....for one Wales was a fair bit larger and comprised of more arable land then which is now part of England today. Just cutting up present EU provinces into 3 or more CK provinces although easier would be less effective...I sure they will have very large provinces still but these will be the frontier provinces where the entire population is sparse in numbers and rural.

Who is to say......not I
 
I pretty much think that the whole concept of national borders is rather... well unimportant. Everybody mostly tried to hold on as much as posiible for the greater glory of their house or whatever.:D