I just bought this game not too long ago. I bought it on Impulse for ten dollars, so I'm pretty sure I don't have the expansion. However, the loading screen says Deus Vult at the top; so I'm pretty confused to which version I actually have. Anyways, what is a good country for me to start with with my version?
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The loading screen for CK does say Deus Vult (they didn't know back then that would be the name of the expansion)
..... once the loading is done, you can see the version in the corner .... if it is 1.x you have CK, if 2.x you have DVFor starting countries, check here: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=341940
you are welcome.
Once you find out if you have CK or DV, make sure to update them with the latest patches. 1.05 for CK and 2.1beta (from October 2008) for DV.
The released versions have many many issues. Not sure if Impulse sells the patched version(s).
Lol Tempest is everywhere
My starting country was the County of Sjaelland. Although it can be a ***** when your liege steals your peace
My starting country was the County of Sjaelland. Although it can be a ***** when your liege steals your peace
Lol Tempest is everywhere
My starting country was the County of Sjaelland. Although it can be a ***** when your liege steals your peace
Happens to every vassal I guess
... which is probably why the linked thread mostly suggestes smaller independent realms King of England.
You get lots of experience managing a strong economy and vassals, and you have to deal with rebellions -and war- very early in the game. It's very tough at first- you should look up the CK guide on youtube to really get started- but it gives you lots of experience.
You get lots of experience managing a strong economy and vassals, and you have to deal with rebellions -and war- very early in the game. It's very tough at first- you should look up the CK guide on youtube to really get started- but it gives you lots of experience.
Prince of Gwynedd, but only in the DVIP Wales and TASS modes. Those offer a fresh and accurate new map for Wales.
Look at my signature for a link to other suggested starter countries, too.
Look at my signature for a link to other suggested starter countries, too.
Play as Duke/Count of Cornwall.. it set you off on a good start you can lick up to your masters in Essex/London and when the King dies there is usually a massive struggle whena toddler gets the throne. When that happens and everyones stars going their seperate way take over Devon and Exeter... I you want you could look at the mod I suggested and almost everyone else helped me make.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461945
Yeah, Cornwall is good to play as, try and forge links with either your celtic chums in Ireland/Wales or Bretagne.. I usually go for Britanny as it is much closer and gives you a foothold in the continent.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461945
Yeah, Cornwall is good to play as, try and forge links with either your celtic chums in Ireland/Wales or Bretagne.. I usually go for Britanny as it is much closer and gives you a foothold in the continent.
My first few games was as the count of Cornwall (at least in vanilla) named Robert de Conteville. I actually do think it's a rather simple county to play, and Robert was quite an interesting (if rather unknown compared to his brothers) character to begin with. The only issue is early on having a male heir and getting yourself some provinces that can make money.
Yeh, like I said a foothold in britanny is always good. You could always go on to take over Wales and style yourself as their king
Like Veldmaarschalk says in the linked thread:
It also has a good central position on the map. You can easily expand north and pick up the pieces of the Holy Roman Empire, grab the shiekdoms to the south, crusade in Spain, the Holy Land, or do some combination of these.
It also has a good central position on the map. You can easily expand north and pick up the pieces of the Holy Roman Empire, grab the shiekdoms to the south, crusade in Spain, the Holy Land, or do some combination of these.
Wow, thanks for all of the help. I played a game as the Duke of Bohemia in the very first scenario. What I've done so far is buy myself two titles, one being the King of Bohemia. I grabbed the titles for Count of upper and lower Silesia and Opola (not sure if I spelled that right). All three of those provinces are in Poland. After a while (and a bit of a struggle), I took those provinces for myself. I have a question, though. Every time I give somebody the title of Duke in my country, they seem to split off into a country of their own. How am I supposed to make somebody a Duke, but keep control of it myself as well? What's the difference between making somebody a Duke and somebody a Count? Also, what options do I have when a Count refuses my request to revoke his title? Thank you for any help.
It depends, all vassals seem to rebel sooner or later, but if their capital provance is located within your kingdom then they will eventually repledge to the king. If the duke title you are giving is outside of Bohemia, when they rebel, they most likely will not repledge to you. Their capital provance is either in Poland or Germany, and after they get their rebellious trait removed they will more then likely pledge to them.
You can remove those provances which compose their duchy from the "kingdom of Poland/Germany" and either leave them blank (meaning that once they rebel they wont pledge to anyone) or tag them to Bohemia, whereby they will eventually repledge to your king.
If a count refuses to relinquish a title then you go to war for it. Of corse, you will get badboy points too. Think long term and stratigically when you give titles away.
The simplist example is giving your primary heir a count title within Bohemia, then granting him the title Duke of Bohemia. This is of corse if you are also the King of Bohemia. This may work for you for those ducal titles that are outside of Bohemia, knowing that if you give your heir the title outside of Bohemia that eventually he will inherit your kingdom and reuniting the duchy with the realm.
Likewise, granting your spouse a county title knowing that her heir would be her son. Likewise, if as king you have a sister and you are her heir, you could grant her a title knowing that eventually you will be her heir.
On a wider scale, you could grant a title to a very loyal courtier, knowing that he should be loyal and possibly gain a loyalist trait.
Thinking stratigically, you have to keep in mind what titles you want to give away and what titles eventually you will want to come back to your heir or within your family.
I see, it seems somewhat confusing. I think I get it, though. Thanks for your help.
No problem! And good luck!
You had also asked what was the difference between duke and count tities, its one of federalism really. As a king, you want your vassals to be dukes because they give you more prestige then does counts. Your dukes manage the counts.
Of corse the issue is complicated with dukes that are outside of your traditional kingdom... such as the example you give about your dukes succeding from your kindom. For duke titles outside of your traditional kingdom it may be best to hold onto those titles yourself. If a count were to rebel, they will evenutually repledge to the ruler who has their ducal title.
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And it is not necessary to go after every count that does rebel (spending money and badboy points), because as I said they will eventually repledge to you even if it takes a generation or so.
I hope this helps!
It does help, thank you. In my case, there was no rebelling. I granted a Duke title and they were instantly their own people. I had no control of them at all, strangely. I reloaded a while back, and the problem doesn't seem to exist anymore. They stay a part of me.
My guess is that you did not reload when you became King??
... always save and reload when your primary title changes (count -> duke -> king). Otherwise the game sees you still as the Duke of Bohemia, and treats you as if you were AI ruler. Many weid things would then happen, like unable to go into debt, raised costs on claiming titles, AI specific events firing etc.