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ohdear

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I started a grand campaign as the US and having now gotten to 1915 I am suprised that the world is remarkably peaceful. I take it that WW1 is not a preprogrammed event, so does anyone know what exactly is needed for the great war to start?
 
It would take a series of incredibly coincidental allience chains to be made; Serbia would have to have a defence pact with Russia, Russia with England, England with France. Germany would have to have a defence pact with Austria and the Ottomans. The Austrians would have to declare war on Serbia, and all of the allience members wouldhave to accept each others help. Then later America would have to join the English allience.

In other words, there is no hardcoded way of starting WWI.
 
Surely though, there should be events / decisions that make this likely. If you have a game to play from 1836 - 1936 the single biggest event to happen in that time should be made likely to happen by the game.
 
The point of this game is to create alternate timelines, and a totally different history. Having even small events that would drive history in one way would be silly in my opinion. That's what the 1914 scenario is for.

I get what you mean but the game is full of events that drive the story in one direction or another. Surely it is about the game being plausible as opposed to historic or not. In my game Austria and Germany are allied, Russia and Serbia are allied and Austria holds large portions of the Balkans (which was the driving force behind the Assassination of Franz-Ferdinand).

My point about the game making it likely is based on the fact that the game has a set up that makes a wide scale conflict plausible - An event (Assassination) that triggers war between Serbia and Austria brings in Russia and Germany. This could or could not then spread to involve others (France has lost a lot of land to Germany in the game and logically might well grab the opportunity to try and take some back) but some sort of major conflict is more plausible than not in this situation given the way that international politics of the time worked.
 
When 3 or more great powers are in a war the game classifies it as 'a great war'. It's common enough to get in some crazy ones out of the blue. My last one as Britain went as follows, i asked prussia (which had lost a big chunk of Westphalia to france)for an alliance and they excepted, venezeula then asked me for an alliance then i accepted, then france asked me for an alliance...which i also accepted, then austria (allied with the ottomans) declared war on sardinia (non scripted) who was allied with france which brought me, prussia and venezeula into a war with the ottomans (and their satellites) and austria. Then just for good measure the russians declared war on france.
 
When 3 or more great powers are in a war the game classifies it as 'a great war'. It's common enough to get in some crazy ones out of the blue. My last one as Britain went as follows, i asked prussia (which had lost a big chunk of Westphalia to france)for an alliance and they excepted, venezeula then asked me for an alliance then i accepted, then france asked me for an alliance...which i also accepted, then austria (allied with the ottomans) declared war on sardinia (non scripted) who was allied with france which brought me, prussia and venezeula into a war with the ottomans (and their satellites) and austria. Then just for good measure the russians declared war on france.

nice. i wish i do get something like that in the future.
 
That seems reasonable though. It is the sort of thing that could have happened I suppose. Just out of interest how long did the war last?

A few years i think, not as long as world war 1. Each ally in turn left the war untill it was only me and france against austria. Austria was gaining the upper hand (france wasn't pulling it's weight) and i was running low on manpower (i should note this was VIP but i've been in similar affairs in vanilla revolutions) so i took dubrovnik and left it at that. Prussia was the only other nation to take land off austria, austria took a large chunk of sardinia-piedmont.

If you have the aggressiveness set higher and join the european alliance system you'll likely to get into great wars. However the war is likely to be shorter if you aren't the alliance leader.