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Not really.
There have been many, in a sense. Some people began one a while back and there were some contributions, but the sources are very diverse. Here is how you can locate the alternate histories.
1. Play the country. Event descriptions reveal where the country is now and sometimes some historical tidbits, but the now often alludes to the past.
2. There are often several threads for a country, especially one like Cordoba. You would need to read them all to see where debates have gone.
3. Some ideas get worked out by one person or by groups outside of the forum (email etc) and all we get are the 'results'.
4. Threads that work out themes and ideas often debate a segment of the faux history.
5. Finally, each country is supposed to have its little intro piece when you click to select them. These are mostly intact and 'accurate' but some are outdated (Poland) and some have never been written (Swabia).
MattyG
There have been many, in a sense. Some people began one a while back and there were some contributions, but the sources are very diverse. Here is how you can locate the alternate histories.
1. Play the country. Event descriptions reveal where the country is now and sometimes some historical tidbits, but the now often alludes to the past.
2. There are often several threads for a country, especially one like Cordoba. You would need to read them all to see where debates have gone.
3. Some ideas get worked out by one person or by groups outside of the forum (email etc) and all we get are the 'results'.
4. Threads that work out themes and ideas often debate a segment of the faux history.
5. Finally, each country is supposed to have its little intro piece when you click to select them. These are mostly intact and 'accurate' but some are outdated (Poland) and some have never been written (Swabia).
MattyG
Okay, here's my try at assembling a general historical background for Interregnum, up to the start of the game. Its always good to get this kind of stuff organized (it may help things a lot to have a base to work from, and I will make very clear the parts I don't have straight. Unfortunately I have a hard time keeping my extremely awesome wit and opinions out of this, but later edits after certain things have become clear will slowly eliminate them. I probably missed a few regions as well. If I did, let me know.
1. KoJ: Does Jerusalem not fall to Saladin? I know that there was a lot of infighting in the Kingdom of Jerusalem which disunited it before Saladin reconquered it. While the Ilkhanate was at the borders of the Caliphate, the KoJ and the Abbasids joined up to defeat it at the borders of Baghdad, contrasting with when the Ilkhanate, to put it lightly, annihilated the great city in reality. Then they went back to rivalling each other, with some sort of uneasy peace until the player takes over.
2. France: The last king of France dies en-route to a crusade, I think besieging Constantinople (a siege which, unlike in reality, goes terribly awry for the crusaders). Because he didn't have an heir and Brittany declared that they would not be subject to another king who was not them, Burgundy, Brittany, and Savoie are elevated to the status of Kingdoms. The prince of Languedoc, I guess, agreed to put a stop to the Cathar heresy in his borders during the 13th century and thus doesn't have his lands divided up like they did by the King of France in reality. There is also Bourbonnais, Guyenne, Auvergne, Normandie, and Orleans as separate duchies, I guess. Lots of gray I need to be filled in on in all these categories.
3. England. Something happens to the King of England which causes the scots and welsh to pwn the English. It is divided up into York and Wessex (two and three provinces respectively), with Anglia to Normandie. Scotland has a lot in common with Norway and defends it against the evil eight-armed Kal(a)mari from Danemark and Sverige. Fill the world in here about what I left out, which was a lot.
4. Union of Kalmar. Sweden and Denmark form the Union of Kalmar, with Norway backing out in Interregnum, just before the game begins. The UoK is ruled from...guess...Kalmar, and gets into it quick with the Hanseatic League, which is German and English for The League League.
5. The Hanseatic League, which is either der Hanse or die Hanse, is, like the UoK, a recently-formed entity in this game which is comprised of united mercantile city-states. In the beginning of the game it is fighting for its independence, which is not a worry because it comes to be about five days after the game begins.
6. Cordoba. Due to the division of France, the northern parts of al-Andalus are not able to be backed up by a powerful entity and thus cannot reconquista back. Cordoba never falls to the Castilians and thus doesn't lose its important status to Gharnata in the south. In 1419 there are three iberian states which will almost invariably lose to Cordoba--Porto, Galicia, and Leon. If the other two christian iberian states don't exist and the third has over seven provinces (IIRC), then it gets to form the Christian Kingdom of Asturias. This means that Cordoba is losing the Reconquista. I have another question here, btw--how would the acceptance of the Iberians under the shepherd king affect the language of the cordobans? In times of trouble, such as plagues, the ruling classes start speaking the common language suddenly. Not that Norman French is a particularily important language in religion, but were it not for the Black Death the aristocracy of England would not have started speaking the language of the peasantry, which they did. Just because the people of, say, Madrid, once converted to Mu'tazelism are andalucianized doesn't mean that people will start speaking arabic in everyday life. They may (certainly) would adopt the arabic script, but they would still speak some sort of Castilian (anyone ever wonder about the similarity between the article el and the I-don't-know-what-to-call-it al?) For example, "El Rey Don Pedro el Cruel," King Peter the Cruel, could be rendered as something like "Don Pedru el-Kruwwel el-Rey"..."Dn Bdru (e)l-Krwwl (e)l-Ry," if you are so inclined. Not that such a character exists in this timeline. Just throwing something out there; it really has a place in a different thread, like the Cordoba one. Anyways, just some flavor.
7. Germany. The Bavarian House Wittelsbach has, due to the crusade which killed the king of France and a lot of German (and Dutch) Princes, inherited a lot of land from said deceased monarchs. In addition, they are also the Holy Roman Emperor, and its a good idea to try to keep the title, just as it is good to win the crusade against Cordoba.
8. Russia. Muskovy never rose to power, and Novogorod is in the power of the Hanseatic League. The Russian states are Suzdal, Tver, and Ryazan.
9. Finland. The Scandinavians who tried to convert Finland to catholicism were only able to get Abo, the actual Finland province. So, Finland is Orthodox, because the Orthodox missionaries presumably didn't try to do it down the shaft of an arrow.
10. The Golden Horde is, just like in reality, really annoying to play because of all the anarchy. However, it is rewarding, with the opportunity to do something freaky and convert to Buddhism in the middle of the game, though there isn't much to do outside the realm. History here, as far as I know, isn't any different from real world history. Though if Temur never got power in the western Chaghatai Khanate, he wasn't there to overthrow the Khan of the Golden Horde who tried to (and failed miserably to) screw with his empire. Off the top of my head, I think the Khan may have been named Jahangir. Probably not, though. Anarchy happened all the time in the Golden Horde, so that doesn't really matter.
11. The Baltic. As is apparent upon first loading the game, the Teutonic Order reigns supreme over most of the Baltic. Apparently they conquered Lithuania instead of sitting around letting it convert to Catholicism. Because of this, the three Lithuanian provinces are pagan. Also, the TO has a desire to mess around in Poland. However, in Poland's place and having something like the strength of Poland is Halych-Volhynia.
12. Halych-Volhynia/Ukraine. Rivals, something like the KoJ and the Abbasids. Its religious too, with HV catholic and Cossack Hetmanate and Kiiv Orthodox (and Kiiv usually gets eaten up by HV and/or CH early). If either conquers the other they gain the cores and probably the right to be called Ruthenia. As Constantinople hasn't fallen, I move on to the next set.
13. Roman Empire. (BTW, I petition that the Byzantine Empire gets renamed to Roman Empire)At some battle or other, the unusually lucky Byzantine army soundly defeats the turks, forstalling their advance into Constantinopolis (city name-change petition!). By forstall I mean that Teke or Karaman usually makes it all the way to the edge of Anatolia within a hundred years, no matter how strong Byzantium is. They have quite a few paths and far far more leaders than other kingdoms, probably leftover from Abberation though these names can be used for other things if so desired. Yes, I just thought of that, which is good.
14. Swabia is the Hapsburgs who were unable to acquire Austria from Bohemia. They get a chance to inherit Milan near the turn of the 16th century, which disappointingly almost always goes to Orleans.
15. The New World. The Maya are based in the Caribbean sea rather than the Yucatan peninsula, which is quite possibly a good historical possibility. The Zapotec quickly control all of Mexico. The "Inca" have been split up to be more historically accurate, and also a country called Wanker is included down there. Some people like to play with Wanker and make it grow and stretch across and between all the mountain peaks of the andes, and to the dryest or most frigid places on that continent. But not me.
16. India. India has been divided up into four different countries--Sindh, Chayuluka, Chola, and Lanka. And another one, which I forgot. Either Calipah or Ahmad was working on this region, and i have no idea why it got split up like this. There is still a lot of room for work here, though there is everywhere.
17. China. China has been split up into five different entities, two orthodox/nestorian Christian (one called Mongolia) and the others Confucian. I don't remember the rationale for this, if I ever read it, and some explanation would be cool. I think Ahmad wrote some stuff about it in a really long thread. Unfortunately what he wrote was based on a Muslim northern India (IE Bengal), which makes it a little hard to deal with.
18. Siberia. Empty. Don't have any colonizers as of yet, or a Mongolia which lives in the siberian corridor; it all ends at pagan Sibir Khanate.
19. Ilkhanate. As it seems that Temur never built his empire in our game, the Ilkhanate still exists and is ruled by Hulagu III at the start of the game. This Khanate is Buddhist mostly, though its Iran (yes, Iran. Not Persia) is mostly Muslim. It has a Nestorian vassal called Qarluk on the eastern Caspian Sea. Its biggest enemy is the Caliphate.
1. KoJ: Does Jerusalem not fall to Saladin? I know that there was a lot of infighting in the Kingdom of Jerusalem which disunited it before Saladin reconquered it. While the Ilkhanate was at the borders of the Caliphate, the KoJ and the Abbasids joined up to defeat it at the borders of Baghdad, contrasting with when the Ilkhanate, to put it lightly, annihilated the great city in reality. Then they went back to rivalling each other, with some sort of uneasy peace until the player takes over.
2. France: The last king of France dies en-route to a crusade, I think besieging Constantinople (a siege which, unlike in reality, goes terribly awry for the crusaders). Because he didn't have an heir and Brittany declared that they would not be subject to another king who was not them, Burgundy, Brittany, and Savoie are elevated to the status of Kingdoms. The prince of Languedoc, I guess, agreed to put a stop to the Cathar heresy in his borders during the 13th century and thus doesn't have his lands divided up like they did by the King of France in reality. There is also Bourbonnais, Guyenne, Auvergne, Normandie, and Orleans as separate duchies, I guess. Lots of gray I need to be filled in on in all these categories.
3. England. Something happens to the King of England which causes the scots and welsh to pwn the English. It is divided up into York and Wessex (two and three provinces respectively), with Anglia to Normandie. Scotland has a lot in common with Norway and defends it against the evil eight-armed Kal(a)mari from Danemark and Sverige. Fill the world in here about what I left out, which was a lot.
4. Union of Kalmar. Sweden and Denmark form the Union of Kalmar, with Norway backing out in Interregnum, just before the game begins. The UoK is ruled from...guess...Kalmar, and gets into it quick with the Hanseatic League, which is German and English for The League League.
5. The Hanseatic League, which is either der Hanse or die Hanse, is, like the UoK, a recently-formed entity in this game which is comprised of united mercantile city-states. In the beginning of the game it is fighting for its independence, which is not a worry because it comes to be about five days after the game begins.
6. Cordoba. Due to the division of France, the northern parts of al-Andalus are not able to be backed up by a powerful entity and thus cannot reconquista back. Cordoba never falls to the Castilians and thus doesn't lose its important status to Gharnata in the south. In 1419 there are three iberian states which will almost invariably lose to Cordoba--Porto, Galicia, and Leon. If the other two christian iberian states don't exist and the third has over seven provinces (IIRC), then it gets to form the Christian Kingdom of Asturias. This means that Cordoba is losing the Reconquista. I have another question here, btw--how would the acceptance of the Iberians under the shepherd king affect the language of the cordobans? In times of trouble, such as plagues, the ruling classes start speaking the common language suddenly. Not that Norman French is a particularily important language in religion, but were it not for the Black Death the aristocracy of England would not have started speaking the language of the peasantry, which they did. Just because the people of, say, Madrid, once converted to Mu'tazelism are andalucianized doesn't mean that people will start speaking arabic in everyday life. They may (certainly) would adopt the arabic script, but they would still speak some sort of Castilian (anyone ever wonder about the similarity between the article el and the I-don't-know-what-to-call-it al?) For example, "El Rey Don Pedro el Cruel," King Peter the Cruel, could be rendered as something like "Don Pedru el-Kruwwel el-Rey"..."Dn Bdru (e)l-Krwwl (e)l-Ry," if you are so inclined. Not that such a character exists in this timeline. Just throwing something out there; it really has a place in a different thread, like the Cordoba one. Anyways, just some flavor.
7. Germany. The Bavarian House Wittelsbach has, due to the crusade which killed the king of France and a lot of German (and Dutch) Princes, inherited a lot of land from said deceased monarchs. In addition, they are also the Holy Roman Emperor, and its a good idea to try to keep the title, just as it is good to win the crusade against Cordoba.
8. Russia. Muskovy never rose to power, and Novogorod is in the power of the Hanseatic League. The Russian states are Suzdal, Tver, and Ryazan.
9. Finland. The Scandinavians who tried to convert Finland to catholicism were only able to get Abo, the actual Finland province. So, Finland is Orthodox, because the Orthodox missionaries presumably didn't try to do it down the shaft of an arrow.
10. The Golden Horde is, just like in reality, really annoying to play because of all the anarchy. However, it is rewarding, with the opportunity to do something freaky and convert to Buddhism in the middle of the game, though there isn't much to do outside the realm. History here, as far as I know, isn't any different from real world history. Though if Temur never got power in the western Chaghatai Khanate, he wasn't there to overthrow the Khan of the Golden Horde who tried to (and failed miserably to) screw with his empire. Off the top of my head, I think the Khan may have been named Jahangir. Probably not, though. Anarchy happened all the time in the Golden Horde, so that doesn't really matter.
11. The Baltic. As is apparent upon first loading the game, the Teutonic Order reigns supreme over most of the Baltic. Apparently they conquered Lithuania instead of sitting around letting it convert to Catholicism. Because of this, the three Lithuanian provinces are pagan. Also, the TO has a desire to mess around in Poland. However, in Poland's place and having something like the strength of Poland is Halych-Volhynia.
12. Halych-Volhynia/Ukraine. Rivals, something like the KoJ and the Abbasids. Its religious too, with HV catholic and Cossack Hetmanate and Kiiv Orthodox (and Kiiv usually gets eaten up by HV and/or CH early). If either conquers the other they gain the cores and probably the right to be called Ruthenia. As Constantinople hasn't fallen, I move on to the next set.
13. Roman Empire. (BTW, I petition that the Byzantine Empire gets renamed to Roman Empire)At some battle or other, the unusually lucky Byzantine army soundly defeats the turks, forstalling their advance into Constantinopolis (city name-change petition!). By forstall I mean that Teke or Karaman usually makes it all the way to the edge of Anatolia within a hundred years, no matter how strong Byzantium is. They have quite a few paths and far far more leaders than other kingdoms, probably leftover from Abberation though these names can be used for other things if so desired. Yes, I just thought of that, which is good.
14. Swabia is the Hapsburgs who were unable to acquire Austria from Bohemia. They get a chance to inherit Milan near the turn of the 16th century, which disappointingly almost always goes to Orleans.
15. The New World. The Maya are based in the Caribbean sea rather than the Yucatan peninsula, which is quite possibly a good historical possibility. The Zapotec quickly control all of Mexico. The "Inca" have been split up to be more historically accurate, and also a country called Wanker is included down there. Some people like to play with Wanker and make it grow and stretch across and between all the mountain peaks of the andes, and to the dryest or most frigid places on that continent. But not me.
16. India. India has been divided up into four different countries--Sindh, Chayuluka, Chola, and Lanka. And another one, which I forgot. Either Calipah or Ahmad was working on this region, and i have no idea why it got split up like this. There is still a lot of room for work here, though there is everywhere.
17. China. China has been split up into five different entities, two orthodox/nestorian Christian (one called Mongolia) and the others Confucian. I don't remember the rationale for this, if I ever read it, and some explanation would be cool. I think Ahmad wrote some stuff about it in a really long thread. Unfortunately what he wrote was based on a Muslim northern India (IE Bengal), which makes it a little hard to deal with.
18. Siberia. Empty. Don't have any colonizers as of yet, or a Mongolia which lives in the siberian corridor; it all ends at pagan Sibir Khanate.
19. Ilkhanate. As it seems that Temur never built his empire in our game, the Ilkhanate still exists and is ruled by Hulagu III at the start of the game. This Khanate is Buddhist mostly, though its Iran (yes, Iran. Not Persia) is mostly Muslim. It has a Nestorian vassal called Qarluk on the eastern Caspian Sea. Its biggest enemy is the Caliphate.
Just a couple of quick ones before others respond:
The French history is old-school Aberration. A look through the threads will find my alternative French history, which saw the Salic wars break it apart in the 1390s.
There is no Salah al-Din and there is no fourth crusade because the third crusade was such a success and helped carve out the Kingdom of Jerusalem to a greater extent than in the RW. The next two centruries have seen an ongoing rise and fall of different alliances involving the KoJ, Caliphate, Il-Khanate, Byzantium, Turkish minors and Mamelukes up to the time you see here.
There is a lot of good stuff in the histories and the opening event texts for these nations.
The French history is old-school Aberration. A look through the threads will find my alternative French history, which saw the Salic wars break it apart in the 1390s.
There is no Salah al-Din and there is no fourth crusade because the third crusade was such a success and helped carve out the Kingdom of Jerusalem to a greater extent than in the RW. The next two centruries have seen an ongoing rise and fall of different alliances involving the KoJ, Caliphate, Il-Khanate, Byzantium, Turkish minors and Mamelukes up to the time you see here.
There is a lot of good stuff in the histories and the opening event texts for these nations.
Orimzad - in regards to the language of Al-Andalus :
Muslim Spainards didnt speak arabic fully - only the elite and court did. The rest of Muslim society spoke in various tongues depending on the district and locality you were in Spain.
Let's say were in Iberia during the Ummayed period.
In Granada, Cordoba and Seville people spoke Arabi Gharbi - western arabic, which to the eastern ear is quite difficult. In Alpujjaras and Estramadura for example, a mix of berber and arabic emerged. In Ruda and Toledo Julayiqi Arabic and so forth.
Alot of the basics of Castillian which we know today is from the arabic tongue, and visa versa for the arabic that emerged in the 15th and 16th centuries....no more Im afraid.
Muslim Spainards didnt speak arabic fully - only the elite and court did. The rest of Muslim society spoke in various tongues depending on the district and locality you were in Spain.
Let's say were in Iberia during the Ummayed period.
In Granada, Cordoba and Seville people spoke Arabi Gharbi - western arabic, which to the eastern ear is quite difficult. In Alpujjaras and Estramadura for example, a mix of berber and arabic emerged. In Ruda and Toledo Julayiqi Arabic and so forth.
Alot of the basics of Castillian which we know today is from the arabic tongue, and visa versa for the arabic that emerged in the 15th and 16th centuries....no more Im afraid.
The early modern Mediterranean had lots of mixed languages: as I understand it, the most important was Sabir, a weird mishmash of Romance languages, Arabic, Greek and Farsi. It was only a pidgin, but it'd have been interesting if it had creolised and become the native language of people somewhere, eg on some Mediterranean island.
Similarly al-Andalus could end up speaking a somewhat unified language, but it might be a heavily Romanised version of Arabic (something akin to modern Maltese) mixed with Berber languages, a Spanish-sounding language with huge amounts of Arabic vocab for 'sophisticated' concepts (more so than Spanish: think modern English, which is still a Germanic language, but has a lexicon which is 40% French-based according to some estimates), or something else entirely. In any case it would be fun to try to put names and short phrases into this kind of fictional hybrid for flavour.
Similarly al-Andalus could end up speaking a somewhat unified language, but it might be a heavily Romanised version of Arabic (something akin to modern Maltese) mixed with Berber languages, a Spanish-sounding language with huge amounts of Arabic vocab for 'sophisticated' concepts (more so than Spanish: think modern English, which is still a Germanic language, but has a lexicon which is 40% French-based according to some estimates), or something else entirely. In any case it would be fun to try to put names and short phrases into this kind of fictional hybrid for flavour.
Here is the original history I wrote for the collapse of France that leads us to the 1419 set-up.
The critical Aberrated history of the region begins in earnest in 1380 with the death of Charles V, King of France. Charles and Jeanne had many children, the males becoming counts and dukes of many of Charles’ possessions late in his reign. The daughters were prized marriages and given to influential dukes and foreign kings to cement the power of the French court. Charles imagined at his death that his first son would work to inherit not only France but also Burgundy, parts of England and also Navarre. Events did not unfold as he foresaw.
Close to the death of Charles, war and revolts marred his reign. Louis, Count of Anjou – a loyal vassal – died and his son Louis II was set to inherit the Duchy of Provence as well. The Duke of Savoy refused to accept his inheritance and claimed the province. When Charles V did not back Louis in his claims, Louis rose in revolt, sensing Charles’ age and weakness. Backed by the Duke of Brittany, Louis II raised an army and claimed the royal lands within Anjou, capturing the royal castle at Angers and defeating the French army in their attempt to cross the Loire and lay siege to the city.
When Charles the VI came to the throne, he was under the regency of his uncle Jean, Duke of Berry. Jean’s early campaigns as regent were disastrous, being defeated by the forces of Brittany and Anjou at Baugé, by the Navarese and Savoyard forces at Liborne and had to accept peace terms dictated by Raymond Longbow of Normandy, in which Caux was ceded to Normandy. Charles VI died during a fit, and with Jean still regent he claimed the throne in place of Charles’ brother, Louis, Duke of Orleans, who was also young. This triggered the Salic War.
The Salic War pitted Jean of Berry and nobles loyal to him (with much to gain from his victory) against his rival claimants, Louis, Duke of Orleans and Louis of Anjou, Jean’s brother. Louis, Duke of Orleans was supported by his uncle Phillip the Bold, the Duke of Burgundy. To the south, Guillaume, the Duke of Bordeaux and husband of Jeanne, daughter of Charles V, supported Louis once the young heir promised to make him Duke of Guyenne, reestablishing the former duchy in the provinces of Gascony, Guyenne and Poitou.
Jean enjoyed early success in the battles of Ingraninas and Mehun-sur-Yevre and by 1389 he controlled Orleans. That year, Louis married Marie-claude, daughter of Phillip the Bold, Duke of Burgundy. In the south, the new Duke of Languedoc, seeing Phillip as the eventual victor and desiring his to recognize his ownership of Languedoc, rallied to his cause, assisting in defeating the forces of Guyenne and Brittany in the battles of Plaisance and Liniers. The war was eroding support for Jean and he moved on Paris to attempt to force a treaty with Louis and Phillip. The siege of Paris lasted 2 years and only ended with the death of Jean of Berry. A temporary peace was made with Louis of Anjou and his backer the King of Brittany. The new King Louis II would not accept the former’s claimed inheritance on Languedoc, as he had received crucial support from the new Duke and he and Phillip needed to ensure peace with Languedoc’s liege, the King of Savoy.
The Kingdom of France seemed secure again, and there followed a period of peace until the death by drowning of Louis II in 1408. Louis IIs wife Marie-Claude, had by this time born him a daughter, Genevieve and son, Charles. Phillip immediately appointed himself regent of the young prince and made permanent peace with Brittany, guaranteeing them Anjou at the death of the ailing and childless Louis of Anjou (his brother) in exchange for recognition of Charles as king and himself as regent. In the south, the Dukes of Guyenne and Auverne also swore allegiance to the Charles VII. The new peace confirmed the salic inheritance laws for the kingdom. Phillip ensures the marriage of Genevieve to his son Robert, the future Duke of Burgundy. At Phillip’s death in 1411, Robert assumes the role of Regent to the young King of France, Charles VII.
In February of 1416, Charles VII dies, childless at 13 years of age. Robert, Duke of Burgundy is pressed to claim the throne by many of his nobles. This would effectively unite the Kingdom and the Duchy for good and create a powerful kingdom that would be a significant threat to its neighbours, especially Savoy and Brittany. War would in all likelihood ensue. Robert nonetheless claims the throne of France and prepares for war. The King of Brittany allies with the young Francois, Duke of Guyenne, who claims the title of King through his father, the brother of Charles VI and the rightful claimant under strict salic law. The King of Savoy, already concerned with a growing conflict with Genoa and Swabia, offers little support, but does not prevent the Dukes of Languedoc and Auverge from siding against Robert.
Robert wins a major victory at Hézy, but his general, Count Benoit of Boucher, is soundly defeated at Pont de Gouchard. Smaller conflicts dominate the campaigning season of 1417, hampered by poor weather and heavy rains in much of central Gaul. In July 1418, despite a limited victory at Aix-la-montagne, Robert is wounded and dies a week later. Amedee, King of Savoy, convenes a peace treaty that sees the throne of France ceded neither to Francois, nor Phillipe III, the future Duke of Burgundy. The Kings of Brittany and Savoy, settle what was for them a long-standing question of avoiding the growth of the Kingdom of France. Along with Phillipe’s regent, the Count of Jura, they decide upon the division of France, and the end of the old kingdom. Francois, having no powerful backer, retreats to Guyenne, accepting lordship over three provinces but recognising no leige.
And so the game opens in 1419. Burgundy is ruled by the regent, Jacques, Count of Jura. Soon Phillipe will become Duke of Burgundy and face the difficult question of the direction his new realm should go.
The critical Aberrated history of the region begins in earnest in 1380 with the death of Charles V, King of France. Charles and Jeanne had many children, the males becoming counts and dukes of many of Charles’ possessions late in his reign. The daughters were prized marriages and given to influential dukes and foreign kings to cement the power of the French court. Charles imagined at his death that his first son would work to inherit not only France but also Burgundy, parts of England and also Navarre. Events did not unfold as he foresaw.
Close to the death of Charles, war and revolts marred his reign. Louis, Count of Anjou – a loyal vassal – died and his son Louis II was set to inherit the Duchy of Provence as well. The Duke of Savoy refused to accept his inheritance and claimed the province. When Charles V did not back Louis in his claims, Louis rose in revolt, sensing Charles’ age and weakness. Backed by the Duke of Brittany, Louis II raised an army and claimed the royal lands within Anjou, capturing the royal castle at Angers and defeating the French army in their attempt to cross the Loire and lay siege to the city.
When Charles the VI came to the throne, he was under the regency of his uncle Jean, Duke of Berry. Jean’s early campaigns as regent were disastrous, being defeated by the forces of Brittany and Anjou at Baugé, by the Navarese and Savoyard forces at Liborne and had to accept peace terms dictated by Raymond Longbow of Normandy, in which Caux was ceded to Normandy. Charles VI died during a fit, and with Jean still regent he claimed the throne in place of Charles’ brother, Louis, Duke of Orleans, who was also young. This triggered the Salic War.
The Salic War pitted Jean of Berry and nobles loyal to him (with much to gain from his victory) against his rival claimants, Louis, Duke of Orleans and Louis of Anjou, Jean’s brother. Louis, Duke of Orleans was supported by his uncle Phillip the Bold, the Duke of Burgundy. To the south, Guillaume, the Duke of Bordeaux and husband of Jeanne, daughter of Charles V, supported Louis once the young heir promised to make him Duke of Guyenne, reestablishing the former duchy in the provinces of Gascony, Guyenne and Poitou.
Jean enjoyed early success in the battles of Ingraninas and Mehun-sur-Yevre and by 1389 he controlled Orleans. That year, Louis married Marie-claude, daughter of Phillip the Bold, Duke of Burgundy. In the south, the new Duke of Languedoc, seeing Phillip as the eventual victor and desiring his to recognize his ownership of Languedoc, rallied to his cause, assisting in defeating the forces of Guyenne and Brittany in the battles of Plaisance and Liniers. The war was eroding support for Jean and he moved on Paris to attempt to force a treaty with Louis and Phillip. The siege of Paris lasted 2 years and only ended with the death of Jean of Berry. A temporary peace was made with Louis of Anjou and his backer the King of Brittany. The new King Louis II would not accept the former’s claimed inheritance on Languedoc, as he had received crucial support from the new Duke and he and Phillip needed to ensure peace with Languedoc’s liege, the King of Savoy.
The Kingdom of France seemed secure again, and there followed a period of peace until the death by drowning of Louis II in 1408. Louis IIs wife Marie-Claude, had by this time born him a daughter, Genevieve and son, Charles. Phillip immediately appointed himself regent of the young prince and made permanent peace with Brittany, guaranteeing them Anjou at the death of the ailing and childless Louis of Anjou (his brother) in exchange for recognition of Charles as king and himself as regent. In the south, the Dukes of Guyenne and Auverne also swore allegiance to the Charles VII. The new peace confirmed the salic inheritance laws for the kingdom. Phillip ensures the marriage of Genevieve to his son Robert, the future Duke of Burgundy. At Phillip’s death in 1411, Robert assumes the role of Regent to the young King of France, Charles VII.
In February of 1416, Charles VII dies, childless at 13 years of age. Robert, Duke of Burgundy is pressed to claim the throne by many of his nobles. This would effectively unite the Kingdom and the Duchy for good and create a powerful kingdom that would be a significant threat to its neighbours, especially Savoy and Brittany. War would in all likelihood ensue. Robert nonetheless claims the throne of France and prepares for war. The King of Brittany allies with the young Francois, Duke of Guyenne, who claims the title of King through his father, the brother of Charles VI and the rightful claimant under strict salic law. The King of Savoy, already concerned with a growing conflict with Genoa and Swabia, offers little support, but does not prevent the Dukes of Languedoc and Auverge from siding against Robert.
Robert wins a major victory at Hézy, but his general, Count Benoit of Boucher, is soundly defeated at Pont de Gouchard. Smaller conflicts dominate the campaigning season of 1417, hampered by poor weather and heavy rains in much of central Gaul. In July 1418, despite a limited victory at Aix-la-montagne, Robert is wounded and dies a week later. Amedee, King of Savoy, convenes a peace treaty that sees the throne of France ceded neither to Francois, nor Phillipe III, the future Duke of Burgundy. The Kings of Brittany and Savoy, settle what was for them a long-standing question of avoiding the growth of the Kingdom of France. Along with Phillipe’s regent, the Count of Jura, they decide upon the division of France, and the end of the old kingdom. Francois, having no powerful backer, retreats to Guyenne, accepting lordship over three provinces but recognising no leige.
And so the game opens in 1419. Burgundy is ruled by the regent, Jacques, Count of Jura. Soon Phillipe will become Duke of Burgundy and face the difficult question of the direction his new realm should go.
Incompetent said:
Ahmed write:
Well with arabic is important are people muslims or not.
In case of maghrib berbers and egyptians who did not have semitic language (as
aramic in Syria), threre was freaky transformation from one language to
another. In many cases that involved at first accepting many arabic words to
berber language (becouse of Islam) and slovely language turned to some mix and
later to arabic. Even now, Maghrebi arabic is one of most "dialectic" arabic
language. At least this how for me was explained.
So while arabic was lingua franca at some centuries, there is important aspect -
is these people muslims.
As maltese is not muslims, they did not have wanting to move to purer arabic.
Andalusi if they would have some arabic mix would turn to poorer arabic and not
from it to another language. So in their language arabic becouse of Islam will
only gain strenght.
Okay, then perhaps names from the situation of a successful reconquista should be a bit like maltese. Perhaps we could just use maltese instead of trying to come up with something else.
Had coffee at 11pm, couldn't sleep, finally found time and inspiration.
SWA_DESC;The once strong Habsburg family are sundered. Friedrich of Swabia rules over the rump of the former swaben lands of the Habsburg ancestral lands, while his brother Ernst der Eiserne rules the rich areaas of Steiermark, and the two great strains of the Leopoldine line of the Habsburgs line remain estranged. And while both have claims over Tirol, rogue feudal nobles controlled the Tyrolean mountains.
The void presented in german lands due to the weakness of the Habsburgs is filled with Swabia's dynastic rivals, the Wittenbergs of Bavaria, who dominate them diplomatically and militarily. Their only surety was the loyalty of the nobles and burghers of the swiss mountains, whose attempt at independence in the late 14th Century failed utterly at the Battle of Sembach.
But the future offered hope to the swaben people. A good marriage by the otherwise undistinguished Sigismund to the Viscontis in the early 1400s gave them considerable clout in Italy, and the Protetant Reformation in the early 1500s saw them take advantage of the political unrest to make several good alliances and military victories. By the late 16th Century Swabia had a real chance of dominating germany, and Europe.
or, the short version...
SWA_DESC;The once strong Habsburg family are sundered. Friedrich of Swabia rules over the rump of the former swaben lands of the Habsburg ancestral lands, while his brother Ernst der Eiserne rules the rich areaas of Steiermark, and the two great strains of the Leopoldine line of the Habsburgs line remain estranged. And while both have claims over Tirol, rogue feudal nobles controlled the Tyrolean mountains.
But the future offered hope to the swaben people. A good marriage by the otherwise undistinguished Sigismund to the Viscontis in the early 1400s gave them considerable clout in Italy, and the Protetant Reformation in the early 1500s saw them take advantage of the political unrest to make several good alliances and military victories. By the late 16th Century Swabia had a real chance of dominating germany, and Europe.
SWA_DESC;The once strong Habsburg family are sundered. Friedrich of Swabia rules over the rump of the former swaben lands of the Habsburg ancestral lands, while his brother Ernst der Eiserne rules the rich areaas of Steiermark, and the two great strains of the Leopoldine line of the Habsburgs line remain estranged. And while both have claims over Tirol, rogue feudal nobles controlled the Tyrolean mountains.
The void presented in german lands due to the weakness of the Habsburgs is filled with Swabia's dynastic rivals, the Wittenbergs of Bavaria, who dominate them diplomatically and militarily. Their only surety was the loyalty of the nobles and burghers of the swiss mountains, whose attempt at independence in the late 14th Century failed utterly at the Battle of Sembach.
But the future offered hope to the swaben people. A good marriage by the otherwise undistinguished Sigismund to the Viscontis in the early 1400s gave them considerable clout in Italy, and the Protetant Reformation in the early 1500s saw them take advantage of the political unrest to make several good alliances and military victories. By the late 16th Century Swabia had a real chance of dominating germany, and Europe.
or, the short version...
SWA_DESC;The once strong Habsburg family are sundered. Friedrich of Swabia rules over the rump of the former swaben lands of the Habsburg ancestral lands, while his brother Ernst der Eiserne rules the rich areaas of Steiermark, and the two great strains of the Leopoldine line of the Habsburgs line remain estranged. And while both have claims over Tirol, rogue feudal nobles controlled the Tyrolean mountains.
But the future offered hope to the swaben people. A good marriage by the otherwise undistinguished Sigismund to the Viscontis in the early 1400s gave them considerable clout in Italy, and the Protetant Reformation in the early 1500s saw them take advantage of the political unrest to make several good alliances and military victories. By the late 16th Century Swabia had a real chance of dominating germany, and Europe.
Mikl,
Thanks, I'll use the long version.
I am working like mad to produce (finally) the Un-Official Interregnum History of the World, so this was very timely.
It's due out this weekend, as a new stickied thread in this forum.
MattyG
Thanks, I'll use the long version.
I am working like mad to produce (finally) the Un-Official Interregnum History of the World, so this was very timely.
It's due out this weekend, as a new stickied thread in this forum.
MattyG
That should make a good read, oh yeah, feedback would be nice on "new idea" thread, I'm willing to do some event coding, but I'd like to know a rough arch before I start, or somewhere appropriate I can go mad 
. Remember everyone Saturday is St. Patrick's day!
. Remember everyone Saturday is St. Patrick's day!
As I said, I won't be able to contribute to this sub-project.
The ID Ranges can be as follows:
636xxx
637xxx
638xxx
639xxx
Remember to give each nation its own 1000 number range.
Let me know when you are ready to assign leader and monarch numbers and I'll give you the next batches of ranges.
MattyG
The ID Ranges can be as follows:
636xxx
637xxx
638xxx
639xxx
Remember to give each nation its own 1000 number range.
Let me know when you are ready to assign leader and monarch numbers and I'll give you the next batches of ranges.
MattyG
thanks, next I need to get to orimazd now, he seems to know more about the region then me,
Sorry, I mean to post that in the other thread.
Happy Saint Patrick's Day. As I write this the irish are two runs from a magnificent victory over Pakistan.
Happy Saint Patrick's Day. As I write this the irish are two runs from a magnificent victory over Pakistan.
Woohoo, maybe an ultra ultra super special Eire bonus event should have been released for the occasion ! Wait maybe I should get on topic...
! Wait maybe I should get on topic...