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As someone who owns CK2 and all the DLC with over a thousand hours in the game CK3 is a product that I find very tempting.

I've been on these forums for years (even if I don't post too much) and have always been polite and respectful, check my posts, they will all be me asking questions and discussing things to do with the various games or offering help and advice.

Yet somehow as a customer of your products and potential customer of upcoming products I have insufficient privileges to weigh in on issues you are actively asking your player base about?
 
Delta5ff said:
As someone who owns CK2 and all the DLC with over a thousand hours in the game CK3 is a product that I find very tempting.

I've been on these forums for years (even if I don't post too much) and have always been polite and respectful, check my posts, they will all be me asking questions and discussing things to do with the various games or offering help and advice.

Yet somehow as a customer of your products and potential customer of upcoming products I have insufficient privileges to weigh in on issues you are actively asking your player base about?
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Because some people suck. They've locked it (and will almost certainly lock this one) until they can get a handle on WTF is actually going on because any of the current threads spiraled out of control almost immediately. Just relax, or if you really need to vent go somewhere like Reddit to do so.
 
Kumicho said:
Because some people suck. They've locked it (and will almost certainly lock this one) until they can get a handle on WTF is actually going on because any of the current threads spiraled out of control almost immediately. Just relax, or if you really need to vent go somewhere like Reddit to do so.
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No it's all good, I'll just wait until another official thread pops up on here.

Edit: I'd actually lock the thread myself now I know why I can't post there now as this one is irrelevant.
 
I personally think it's an odd approach to take. They said they were cleaning it up but its been days. Something else must be going on. I have spent thousands on Paradox games and my love of their games even lead me to purchase equity in the company after it went public. It's odd to me that I would not be able to say what I think on an issue.
 
They have no interest in an actual discussion, so they shut down the thread while promising to reopen it, with no plans of doing so. So now they keep quiet and shuts down any attempt to discuss the matter. Pretty much the same strategy blizzard is using on the topic of Hong Kong.

Hoping the problem will go away if we pretend it doesnt exist.
 
TheKingofWinter said:
They have no interest in an actual discussion, so they shut down the thread while promising to reopen it, with no plans of doing so. So now they keep quiet and shuts down any attempt to discuss the matter. Pretty much the same strategy blizzard is using on the topic of Hong Kong.

Hoping the problem will go away if we pretend it doesnt exist.
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42 pages of discussion before being locked. Discussion, they welcome. A flood of outrage shouting cacophony does nothing. It'll be back, likely after people have had the chance to chill out.

Considering the ridiculous comparison to Blizzard silencing Hong Kong support and cringey accusations against "SJWs" and "brainwashed leftist activist journalists", it's definitely a far cry from legitimate attempts at discourse. If I were Paradox, I'd be rightfully confused by the sheer level of outrage presented.
 
guinea prince said:
42 pages of discussion before being locked. Discussion, they welcome. A flood of outrage shouting cacophony does nothing. It'll be back, likely after people have had the chance to chill out.

Considering the ridiculous comparison to Blizzard silencing Hong Kong support and cringey accusations against "SJWs" and "brainwashed leftist activist journalists", it's definitely a far cry from legitimate attempts at discourse. If I were Paradox, I'd be rightfully confused by the sheer level of outrage presented.
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So a toxic mess of outrage and bile where the only way to be heard was to shout the loudest most controversial opinion
 
The error of Paradox was giving the benefit of the first cover to Rock, Paper, Shotgun. I hope they learn the lesson.
 
I_AM_King_Midas said:
I personally think it's an odd approach to take. They said they were cleaning it up but its been days. Something else must be going on. I have spent thousands on Paradox games and my love of their games even lead me to purchase equity in the company after it went public. It's odd to me that I would not be able to say what I think on an issue.
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>They said they were cleaning it up but its been day
You don’t need to have much intrigue points to understand that reopening a thread has never been part of their plans.
 
Barón Rojo said:
The error of Paradox was giving the benefit of the first cover to Rock, Paper, Shotgun. I hope they learn the lesson.
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The age of pro game journalism is over. They should have just gotten some youtube reviewer. Then at least they would probably have avoided this specific mess as well as actually possibly getting a decent interview from someone who actually cared and truly understood the game.
 
Getting into a discussion of games journalism is off-topic from the OP, but at least it is not dredging up the same discussion that has been had over 42 pages already, so I'll chip in:

RPS might have been disingenuous in some ways, but the question they asked was understandable, considering they are journalists writing about the games industry as a whole and not just YouTube hype-bois judging a singular game based on graphics and content.

"Hey, a thing in the old game got your company brought up in connection to some bad dudes doing bad things. Will this have any impact on the sequel?", is not an illegitimate question if you report on videogames as an business and not just the entertainment merits of a specific game.
 
TheKingofWinter said:
The age of pro game journalism is over. They should have just gotten some youtube reviewer.
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Yeah, there might be potential for an interesting discussion here.

Imagine for a second if Paradox had gotten some youtube reviewer. Let's go over what would have happened.

Firstly, that person will have been specifically chosen by the PR department at Paradox on the basis of their value to the company. There would be a clear agreement, possibly unspoken by still definitely present, that their role is merely to provide hype and that the access they are being given is conditional on providing PR value to the company. They would essentially have been contracted on the basis of their personal brand to promote the game as a PR representative.

A youtube influencer cannot hold publishers to account or ask hard questions because, if they do, the publisher will cut them off and replace them. Heck, publishers try to do this with professional journalists too, because most publishers see games media as just another PR arm. It's why 8/10 is considered a "bad" review in games media, because at this point both publishers and a large section of consumers expect games media to function as nothing but a hype machine.

The fact that consumers have managed to get into this pattern of thinking that journalists asking companies tough questions about their games, including the broader artistic qualities of games, rather than simply being paid PR is a bad thing, much less that it's "bullying" in which the poor defenseless multi-million dollar entertainment companies are being coerced into doing things they don't want to do, is far more indicative of real problems in this industry than anything in the titular megathread.
 
Guys, guys, locking this thread is White Genocide. Run for the hills! Teh Cultural Marxsism is upon us! They're turning the frogs gay!
 
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