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There is a succession conflict and I support Ladislaus, of course. According to the AGCEEP site, Hungary has to control Presburg, Magyar, and either Maros or Pest, either Transylvania or Ruthenia, and either Serbia or Banat. After that I'm supposed to have victory and inherit Hungary's land and cultures, but it doesn't happen. Every time Hungary successfully stops the rebels, controlling all of its land, but it doesn't join.

Even when I tried invading Hungary and taking all of its provinces, and even beating Poland and Lithuania too, I never got to inherit. What is wrong? I never got any Bohemian inheritance either. :confused: The only thing I think I did weird was wiping out Bavaria so I wouldn't have to cede a province to them.
 
Higher Game said:
There is a succession conflict and I support Ladislaus, of course. According to the AGCEEP site, Hungary has to control Presburg, Magyar, and either Maros or Pest, either Transylvania or Ruthenia, and either Serbia or Banat. After that I'm supposed to have victory and inherit Hungary's land and cultures, but it doesn't happen. Every time Hungary successfully stops the rebels, controlling all of its land, but it doesn't join.

Even when I tried invading Hungary and taking all of its provinces, and even beating Poland and Lithuania too, I never got to inherit. What is wrong? I never got any Bohemian inheritance either. :confused: The only thing I think I did weird was wiping out Bavaria so I wouldn't have to cede a province to them.

not sure how that can happen to you; also depends on the ottomans status for example.
but, just a huntch; the dates in agceep are a bit pushed back in general with regards to austria+ there are many conditions bohemia and hung. must meet.
 
Higher Game said:
There is a succession conflict and I support Ladislaus, of course. According to the AGCEEP site, Hungary has to control Presburg, Magyar, and either Maros or Pest, either Transylvania or Ruthenia, and either Serbia or Banat. After that I'm supposed to have victory and inherit Hungary's land and cultures, but it doesn't happen. Every time Hungary successfully stops the rebels, controlling all of its land, but it doesn't join.

Even when I tried invading Hungary and taking all of its provinces, and even beating Poland and Lithuania too, I never got to inherit. What is wrong? I never got any Bohemian inheritance either. :confused: The only thing I think I did weird was wiping out Bavaria so I wouldn't have to cede a province to them.

what is the year that your issues occur?

Austria inherit Bohemia around 1520ish

Austria can never inherit HUN if corvinus is leader, but I presume you dealing with prior corvinus.
 
Higher Game said:
The year is 1440 or so, very early. I have the war with Hungary and nothing happens.

well that expalins it; the temporarry core you have just recived will be temporarry lost, only to regained IF ottomas have clear interes into gaining hungary around 1520's. it is a well and fine desined set of events that includes hungary/ausrian/ottomans event files ;). maybe i do not know the whole process here becouse some new possible events added, but inheriting hungary in 1440's should be impossible indeed.

and whiping out bavaria is an ahistorical option the player CAN take, but do not expect bonuses for it; by ceding the province and keeping the core, you can dow right away bavaria and vassal her. so it is actually a bonus in the end nevertheless( vassaling her allies in the process with a free cb too...).
 
Herr Doctor said:
I believe Higher Game is referring to Ladislaus Postumus issue (the Hungarian succession war of 1440s) and the AGCEEP event chain regarding it...

Is that the scenario where Hungary annex, Austria and Bohemia under Ladislaus via his mother Elizabeth.

IIRC, Styria is included too but not Tyrol
 
The only son of Albert II, King of Germany, and of Elizabeth, daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund, he was called Ladislaus Postumus (in Czech Ladislav Pohrobek; in Hungarian Utószülött László; in Slovenian Ladislav Posmrtni) because he was born at Komárom (then part of Hungary, now in Slovakia) four months after his father's death. He succeeded immediately as Duke of Austria and head of the House of Habsburg, and he also became nominal King of Bohemia. But his second cousin Frederick V, ruler of Inner Austria, was chosen to succeed Albert II as King of the Romans.

The estates of Hungary elected Władysław III of Poland as King Ulászló I in succession to Albert II; but the infant Ladislaus' mother had the Hungarian crown stolen from its guardians at Visegrád and brought to Wiener Neustadt by a lady of the court, Helene Kottannerin. According to legend, the cross on the crown is askew because it was damaged in transit as a result. Elisabeth arranged for Ladislaus to be crowned at Székesfehérvár on 15 May 1440.


Info above states, ........which is confusing ,..........ladislaus became ruler of Austria , while his cousin Frederick V (Styria, which is inner Austria) became the HRE
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Also, HUN never seemed to want Ladislaus.

Maybe our events are correct?????????
 
Possible events are HAB_179103 and HAB_179150.

First condition is supporting Ladislaus, second one is Loyalist victory (for Hungary) and third one is Hungary being vassal of Austria. Check the triggers in eventdoc and related Hungarian events.
 
YodaMaster said:
Possible events are HAB_179103 and HAB_179150.

First condition is supporting Ladislaus, second one is Loyalist victory (for Hungary) and third one is Hungary being vassal of Austria. Check the triggers in eventdoc and related Hungarian events.

I looked at the AGCEEP web site because it's easier to understand than the event files, and I didn't see any mention of having to vassalize Hungary.

http://www.agceep.net/eventdoc/AGCEEP_Specific_Austria.eue.htm

179103. Coronation of Ladislaus Postumus in Hungary
Austria -- Not random
Conditions

* Flag [support_Ladislaus] is set
* At least one of the following must occur:
o Event 188091 - Victory of the supporters of Ladislaus Postumus for Hungary has already occurred
o Event 188092 - Victory of the supporters of Ladislaus Postumus for Hungary has already occurred
* None of the following must occur:
o Austria is a vassal of Hungary

The other one seems to have Austria being a vassal of Hungary. :confused:
 
Ok, I finally got back to looking this over, and it makes no sense at all. This is the event I think needs to happen.

188092. Victory of the supporters of Ladislaus Postumus

The problem is, the rebels absolutely have to control Magyar, or Austria can't win. Austria can own provinces as a result of war except the capital of Magyar, obviously. So, the best Austria can do is take enough of the periphery provinces, and hope that rebels eventually take over Magyar. Austria obviously cannot take over Magyar because this would mean wiping out Hungary in a force annexation.

This is clearly ridiculous. Either the event should fire during war or Austria should not have to own the capital province (which means wiping out Hungary and making it impossible). Having to hope for rebels makes no sense at all.
 
Higher Game said:
This is clearly ridiculous. Either the event should fire during war or Austria should not have to own the capital province (which means wiping out Hungary and making it impossible). Having to hope for rebels makes no sense at all.
Thanks, we forgot to change this when capital was moved from Pest to Magyar in setup. I will take a look at it.

But, yes, you still have to rely on rebels (that are the Loyalists) or conquer provinces as Austria (but not the capital, of course).
 
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Higher Game said:
Is there any way for me to fix this in the meantime before the next AGCEEP is released?

yoda fixed it already, see bohemia and hungary thread on what to change