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hello, I know it's a game and not a simulation, but following questions and are based on true historical facts.

1) Count Boudewijn VI united the County of Flanders and Hainaut, but when he died both counties were seperated again (in 1070, so very important in CK terms).

Question = Can a kingdom break up in pieces after the death of a ruler, when there's a legitimate heir?

2. In 1127 died count Charles the good of Flanders - he was murdered. But the French king appointed Wiliam of Normandy to rule as Flemish count. He was never accepted by the people and in the end Dirk of the Elzas was choosen to rule the land.

Question = can the liege appoint an heir by his wish?

3. Filips of the Elzas - anoter Flemish count - gave Artois to the French king as a present (bride treasury) when the French king married Filips niece. He had been acting regent on the French young king, but his policy to influence his liege were unsuccesfull, resulting in the loss of Artois - different stories pose another accent on this story, so the true origin is not clear,

Question = can a count manipulate (or stimulate) his siege to get something important? And can the liege ask or receive a province when someone's getting married?

4. Count Gwijde van Dampierre made an alliance with the guildes and opposes the patricians that were pro French. The count told his liege to bugger off. Ok he had the English as hidden allies, but he never had to pledge loyalty to some English king,

Question = can a count say to his liege "bugger off" and become independent?
 
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ok, I know I have the tendency to make long posts. I'll try to work on that,

I hope the questoins are clear enough, ok so I wait for NDA to be lifted, :)
 
1:yes (check the AAR)
2:yes (if i am correct in interpreting you question as: the king can appoint subordinates to provinces (dukes and counts)
3:I assume the first "siege" is ment to be "liege"
a: no nothing of the sort has been mentioned so far (could be under NDA and therefore it has not been discussed)
b: possibly (NDA again)
4: yes, but you would have to fight the liege and possibly all his other dukes and counts for your independence. Which is quite impossible, unless the other dukes and counts are equally unsatisfied with the ruler.

spruce, i get the feeling that you dont bother reading the other topics, but i could be wrong of course. Most of your questions have happend or been averted in the AAR
 
k_blom,

thanks very much,

to come back on question 3 and 4,

3 - when kings were still small and unable to rule a kingdom, they were governed by a regent. It's funny to see that a regent can have a hidden agenda and tries to manipulate that youngster- I gave the example of the Flemish count,

4 - it did happen with Flanders, first round was for the Flemish. Then they went south to even challenge the French (were they mad??? :eek:o ), and later when the French king invaded for a second time they were defeated,

however the French king was very smart to resolve matters. One the one side he had won the battle, but was unpopular that a new revolt would spawn and the French military had been battered also.
He gave independance, but the Flemish had to tear down all forts and military strongholds, leaving the lands as sitting ducks for his power,

I'll make 2 new questions out of this,

4.1 The Flemish had English sponsors or allies. Can other factions aid a rebellious count against their former liege (like with ducats or with bands of soldiers?),

4.2 Can you dismantle the enemy as a peace agreement?

this game is really gonna rock ! :rofl: