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CK2 Dev Diary #100 – Come Fight Me

Greetings!

Dev Diary #100, and we have a bunch of fun things to talk about!

DUELS
As we have mentioned before, duels have been reworked during this development cycle, along with some other systems that tie into it. First off, Personal Combat Ratings now more commonly range between something like 1-100, and traits and other modifiers have been rebalanced to accommodate for this system overhaul. Naturally, being sick or bedridden can drop that number down far below zero, and if you have been Severely Injured, you should probably rest up before you accept a new fight. There are also degrees of injury when you fight, so you don’t always end up losing limbs left and right… Instead, you might be allowed to walk away with a temporary modifier, such as a Swollen Ankle, or a Black Eye.


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Our hope is that dueling another character will be something you remember. Of course, the result of a duel is determined by your Personal Combat Rating, but other factors, such as your current mood (is your character Stressed or Depressed?), or your personal relationship to your target (is this your rival, or someone you’re attracted to?) are also part of the evaluation. Players who enjoy intrigue will also find that it is not only pure Martial characters who can be successful in one-on-one combat. Be aware, however, that such attacks can be safeguarded against, depending on the Intrigue of your target, or if they have a sympathetic Spymaster who is more competent a schemer than you.

When it comes to the text, we have, in addition to triggered descriptions, used a lot of dynamically generated sentences. This in order to, among other things, highlight the terrain you’re fighting in, or making sure that, as you strike your enemy down, your equipped weapon can be referred to by name (and that it uses the correct type of attack when you do - eg: blunt weapons do not generally “cut/slice/slash” at the enemy).

Once these new and fanciful duels began to make it into the game, we quickly realized that we wanted them to occur in battles too. Bringing me to our next point: battle events.

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BATTLE EVENTS
All the original vanilla events that fire from being in a battle (from the on_combat_pulse) have been replaced. Leading troops should be fun. And it should be varied, and not always end up with a hit on the head, leaving you Incapable for 40 years while your clueless regent runs amok at court. That does not mean we have removed risk from the equation, but one major change is that you should now have some choice in how you tackle events on the battlefield. If you want, you can accept certain injury, but quite often, if you’re feeling bold, you will be able to charge after the enemy commander, for a battlefield duel. Which events you end up getting is also going to vary, depending on how much soldier material you’re made of. Not all enemies are going to be climbing up the nearest tree when they see you, and if you don’t own any artifacts, you can’t throw them away to distract your greedy enemy… And only a cat owner can find their kitten curled up, hiding in their saddlebags.

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As a liege, you will as usual be alerted to certain events on the battlefield, except you will now get a little bit more insight into how the character met their end:

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SCARS AND TATTOOS
All of these events will be accompanied by several new portrait-related upgrades.

First of all, the Scarred trait and its visuals have been completely overhauled: the original Scarred trait is now only the first in a three-tiered system. Whenever a character is injured during a duel or battle, a hidden scar-variable will increase, which, past a certain threshold will allow them to proceed from Scarred, to Grievously Scarred and, finally, to Horrifically Scarred, with each trait granting different perks and different visuals.

Additionally, rather than having the portrait effect result in one scar, picked from a pool of three, we made it so that when a character receives their first scar, it is tied to one out of ten different scar types, determined by a random hidden trait, and it is along this hidden path that the scarring progresses. Each kind has its own evolution when moving to the next stage of scarring, making sure to significantly reduce the chance of two scarred characters sporting the same visual effect on their portrait.

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Aside from this new system, in order to make portraits even more varied and dynamic, several new temporary (and permanent) visual effects have been added, including visuals for minor injuries, like a Black Eye or Concussion, but also Harelip (the trait), and freckles (from a hidden inheritable trait available to certain graphical cultures only). Some characters might even come with blood splatter on them, signalling a recent duel or battlefield event.

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Finally, some Warrior Lodge Powers and religions now grant access to warpaint and tattoo effects. The main difference between the two in gameplay terms is that warpaint is temporary, while tattoos are permanent. While they come in different shapes and color, they are mainly tied to the religion (or Warrior Lodge) of the character.

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To be clear: most of the new battle events are in in the free patch (along with battlefield duels), as old events have been removed. There is a batch of new ones that tie into the new Warrior Lodge society type and are thus Holy Fury exclusive, but the Personal Combat Rating rebalance (along with updates to old events that make use of any type of duel) is going to be available without the DLC. The decision to Duel a character when you right-click them will remain accessible via the Way of Life DLC, or through being a Warrior Lodge member, using Holy Fury.

All in all, we hope you will send your ruler into battle more often and that you will have more memorable encounters with your enemies when you do so. Here are some of our favorites:
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Thank you for reading. :)
 
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Strange...I wonder if a Roman/Byzantine Empire styled gov. system would have a "corruption" mechanic similar to IQTA ones to prevent being too overpowered, as mentioned above, given that it could have free revocations and more centralization.

Another idea that I like to think about is what would be Rome's role in the world would been if it had survived united (or re-unified after certain crisis times), not unlike China. As a counterpart of them, maybe. In the East, you have the Imperial Chinese dragon ...while on the West, is the Imperial Roman hmm...eagle?...griffin? holding the power.
 
In the original CK leaders that didn't lead their troops were hit with negative events for being cowards. I think something similar should be in CK2 if it isn't already (I've. personally never seen an event like it). Your vassals should definitely think you're weak if you don't lead them into battle

I've gotten a few events with -10 or something relations from my vassals for not leading armies since my rulers are always learning or stewardship focused.
 
This DLC and update just keep looking better and better. I am so ridiculously hyped for this.
 
Is there a new Government for the Greco-Roman Empires? Imperial Autocratic Bureaucracy?
Can control Cities and Castles? Constantinople is now a fortified city?
Barony and County free revocation? Powerful county-sized Themes? Centralized Government preventing intra-national wars between Themes? Corruption and Coup d'état?

Hopefully some of these make it in, but free barony and even county revocation would be game-breaking. That would make North Korea Mode trivially easy and even if used in a more limited way, you'd still be able to easily give every holding in the empire to a member of your dynasty, or to a randomly- generated courtier, as long as you have the patience to do it.
 
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- except in CK magic is actually real so moscal has a point. While Kapitalisti's claim that said miracle was a latter time fabrication is indeed need legitimate source to prove.:rolleyes: The point is that it doesnt matter if apparition was actual apparition or just natural phenomenon that was mistaken for some divine intervention by contemporary people.

No. In CK2 there is nearly no magic. Most magic is explainable.
 
No. In CK2 there is nearly no magic. Most magic is explainable.
- nope. After SoA and MnM here are magic everywhere that cant be rationally explained, thats first. Second: either way apparitions can be rationally explained. So how you will justify existence of regenerating limbs over existence of - look its bird! no its a cloud! no it is a divine apparition!

But anyway moscal has an edge in this dispute simply because he can source his claims unlike Kapitalisti. It is irrelevant either or not described apparitions were divine in nature or just misunderstood natural phenomenon, one side has sources while the other just has unsourced claims. Existance or not existance of divine or magical is not a point of that dispute.
 
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Does that make them real? Do you personally believe in miracles?
Yes. I'm not Bolshevik, who negation whole unnatural world and do shooting to Icons and religious Statues and censor history.

In old, bolshevik books, lack informations about eg. vision of Constantine Great before Battle of the Milvian Bridge. In western books those information is noted. Therefore I wrote about "interpretation of facts". You can interpret vision of Constantine Great as divine interfention or pure nightmare or anything other. But you cannot say, that vision of Constantine Great never had place - because this will be lie. In siege in 626 was similar - previously loyalists Slavs troops betrayed Avars and join to anti-avar rebelion because they saw "something unnormal" close wall of Constantinople. This is fact. Do this "something unnormal" was magic, miracle, time traveler, mass histery? I don't know.

The proposal of my opponents is similar to stalinist censorship. Elimination of facts, because ideology don't accept, that X can be true.

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And no - my way aren't wrong. On my way I get few diplomas eg. mechanical engineer. Not every word, that my ideology don't accepted, is propaganda. Nah! Even not every false information is propaganda! What I write is the basis methodology of research!
 
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A good addition seeing as many big mods have their own version of personal combat skill and duels.

Are there going to be more unique items, such as the Imperial Crown seen in the preview? I've always been annoyed about the lack of historical regalia.
 
Is there a new Government for the Greco-Roman Empires? Imperial Autocratic Bureaucracy?
Can control Cities and Castles? Constantinople is now a fortified city?
Barony and County free revocation? Powerful county-sized Themes? Centralized Government preventing intra-national wars between Themes? Corruption and Coup d'état?


I want to believe
 
Yes. I'm not Bolshevik, who negation whole unnatural world and do shooting to Icons and religious Statues and censor history.

In old, bolshevik books, lack informations about eg. vision of Constantine Great before Battle of the Milvian Bridge. In western books those information is noted. Therefore I wrote about "interpretation of facts". You can interpret vision of Constantine Great as divine interfention or pure nightmare or anything other. But you cannot say, that vision of Constantine Great never had place - because this will be lie. In siege in 626 was similar - previously loyalists Slavs troops betrayed Avars and join to anti-avar rebelion because they saw "something unnormal" close wall of Constantinople. This is fact. Do this "something unnormal" was magic, miracle, time traveler, mass histery? I don't know.

The proposal of my opponents is similar to stalinist censorship. Elimination of facts, because ideology don't accept, that X can be true.

EDIT

And no - my way aren't wrong. On my way I get few diplomas eg. mechanical engineer. Not every word, that my ideology don't accepted, is propaganda. Nah! Even not every false information is propaganda! What I write is the basis methodology of research!
Dude, I don't get your message at all. You quote only the part where I took it too personally (and almost wrote out before hitting Reply), but my only explanation was that you trully believe this kind of thing to be real, and you left out the parts where I said where I explained why this kind of apparitions are recurrent among almost all cultures and all religions across the world. Sure, they could've seen something they couldn't explain or they just made the whole thing up, that we don't know. But what we do know is that apparitions aren't a thing.

And I don't personally care which titles you have, they don't make your arguments any better (or any worse, for that matter, they're just irrelevant).
 
Dude, I don't get your message at all. You quote only the part where I took it too personally (and almost wrote out before hitting Reply), but my only explanation was that you trully believe this kind of thing to be real, and you left out the parts where I said where I explained why this kind of apparitions are recurrent among almost all cultures and all religions across the world. Sure, they could've seen something they couldn't explain or they just made the whole thing up, that we don't know. But what we do know is that apparitions aren't a thing.
I gave you my answer on whole you post. You ignore them and see only one...

I don't see the point of continuing the conversation - I see here only blind, irrational atheism, blind on words, facts, methodology and sciece. For my opponents only ideology is important...
 
Let's keep the theology discussion somewhere else, shall we? :p
 
Yes. I'm not Bolshevik, who negation whole unnatural world and do shooting to Icons and religious Statues and censor history.

As a person coming from a mostly atheistic country, i gotta say i'm always weirded out by people associating atheism and the ussr, like, one to one. Seriously, it was weird when the us did it then, it's weird when ex ussr countries do it now. Cmon, plenty of people are atheist without being communists, to say nothing of bolsheviks.

Also i'm a huge hypocrite for saying this after ranting myself, but this is starting to veer off-topic.
 
I'm sorry Sir/Maam,
this is a CK2 dev diary.

I hope the cat will be ok? Or that we can make the cat OK by sacrificing the enemy general's skull to the appropriate god(s)?:D

Or....maybe the cat IS a god/goddess...maybe from Egpyt.....
The ancient faith will return........soooooooon(TM) :p
 
I love what I have seen so far of Holy Fury!
With such good content coming with each developer diary, I eagerly await the next one.

Though what I don't love is that "I am but"...
it should be "I am nought but", meaning "I am nothing but", meaning "I am nothing except".
(this refers to the last picture's right image's lowest response option)
There's nothing grammatically wrong with the phrase. It's just an archaic way of saying "I'm only [an X]" or "I'm just [a Y]".
 
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