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CK2 Dev Diary #63: In the Emperor's Good Graces

Greetings!

Today I would like to talk to you about some of the ways you can gain the Grace of the Emperor, and ways in which you can use it to your advantage! To interact with China you must be within their diplomatic range - which extends throughout the entire Silk Road, and through the influence of the Western Protectorate and any Tributaries China might have. When you are within diplomatic range you have the options to Pay Tribute and Ask for Boons.

Paying Tribute to the Emperor will get you in their good Graces, giving you the option of asking for Boons. While the first thing that comes to mind would be to become an actual Tributary State to China, there are more ways to earn Grace. Of course, being a Tributary State is one of the most effective ways to earn the Emperors good Grace - having the Emperor like you more for each month you stay a Tributary State - though you have to give up a significant portion of your Wealth and Levy Regain rate. As China prefers their Tributaries to keep paying Tribute to them, they are willing to defend their Tributaries from outside threats - Tributary States will have the option of summoning a regiment of Chinese forces when they are under attack. When playing as a small realm in the Tarim Basin, for example, it is very prudent to become a Chinese Tributary as they will help you fend off ravenous Nomads and expansionist Tibetans alike.
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Not everyone will have the opportunity (or want to give up their sovereignty) to become a Tributary State though, in that case there are other things you can do to earn the Emperor’s good Grace. The two most common things the Emperor requires are more Concubines for the harem and more Eunuchs for the administration. If you are able to find characters that suit either role, you will be able to send them off as Tribute. These characters will most often have to be your close relatives, making the choice whether to send them away or not more tactical (perhaps you’d rather keep your daughter for forming a local alliance, or keep your third son as a backup in case your first two sons bite the dust). Note that you won’t be able to send off characters that stand to inherit titles. The selection of a suitable character is made by executing a new type of ‘third party character’ decision, as can be seen in this screenshot:
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There are also other things you can do to gain the Grace of the Emperor, I won’t go into too much detail, but they include things such as: Offering a Court Physician when China is suffering a Plague, sending Relief while China is suffering a Famine, sending Artifacts or Gold, and more.

Any Grace you’ve earned will persist as long as the same Dynasty sits on the throne in China - Civil Wars and Invasions might result in a new Dynasty taking the Dragon Throne, making you lose any grace you’ve accumulated. Fortunately the Dynasty changes seldomly, and you get ample warning before it happens (so that you get a chance to leverage the Grace you’ve accumulated with the current Dynasty).

Emperors, like most characters in CK2, have their own personalities. This is characterized through the Emperor’s likes and dislikes - if the Emperor favors Buddhists you will find it more rewarding to both be a Buddhist yourself, and to send the Emperor Buddhists as tribute. The opposite is true for being disliked by the Emperor - with the additional threat that they might, just might, treat you as a priority target should they become expansionist!

Now on to using Grace - if you’ve sent enough Tribute to the Emperor you will be able to request Boons. Boons are generally very powerful, and come in many flavors - I won’t go through all of them in this DD, but here are a select few:

Request Peace Deal - The most basic of all Boons, having an active Peace Deal will prevent China from ever targeting you with wars. It is very cheap to get one and, unless you’re taking a risk by saving up for something costly, you should usually be able to afford one. A Peace Deal lasts for a long time, and also persists through multiple characters should the one who requested it die. In addition to preventing the wrath of China, it also gives quite a bit of passive prestige. Do note that if China is in an Expansionist phase they might not want to hand out any Peace Deals, so get them while you can…

Request Strategist - This Boon has a character trained in Chinese Strategy join your court. This character is both a competent commander by himself, but will given time also train your existing commanders in the art of Chinese warfare. This is represented by special Commander Traits with very powerful bonuses.

Request Master Engineer - This Boon has a masterful Chinese Engineer join your court. For as long as this character stays employed, he will improve your demesne with powerful province modifiers - Blast Furnaces, Paper Mills, Fireworks Guilds and other wondrous things. These modifiers tend to help you advance in Military and Economic technology.

Request Imperial Marriage - The Emperor has many daughters (and in the case of female rulers, cousins and kinsmen) and if you stand in their good Graces you might be allowed to have you or one of your children marry one of them! Such a marriage is not only very prestigious, because a princess doesn’t leave China alone - along with her she will bring a regiment of Honor Guards that you can call upon at will. Unlike the troops you can call upon from being a Chinese Tributary State these Honor Guards can also be used in offensive wars - giving you an edge in warfare. An Imperial Marriage also sets a Peace Deal in place.
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Request Invasion - This is the most costly Boon of them all, and will be a challenge just to gain enough Grace for - if there is a realm that has grown too large and powerful for their own good, you can suggest that China invades them with the sole purpose of dismantling their realm. Of course, it might not be very likely that China would succeed in taking down a distant Empire (i.e. Byzantium) and there is no absolute guarantee that they will win regardless. If you are independent you can choose to join in the war yourself, which is especially useful if you really want the war to succeed. Having Peace Deals with China will protect characters from Requested Invasions and normal invasions alike.

There are plenty of other things you can request; Scholar-Bureaucrats, Siege Engineers, Chinese Artifacts, Silk Road Trade Contracts and more - but I won’t go into more detail in this DD!

Finally I’d like to say that many of these features will be controllable by Game Rules. If you want to disable the Diplomatic Range of China and gain Grace as a count in Ireland you will be able to do so - the same if you do not wish to have China launch any invasions, along with many other things. And as always, if you have any ideas/questions/concerns for Game Rules relating to the features presented in the DD, feel free to suggest them here!
 
What if when China in ruled by a woman? Will she have own a "reverse harem"?
She might prefer that you send her male tribute... intact, yes.

Is it possible for a female ruler or heir to marry a Chinese prince?
Yes, it will be functionally the same. Though it's unreasonable for a woman to have 30-40 kids, so 'Princes' are represented by kinsmen to the Empress.

I fully approve of this, sounds extremely fun!

Though I want to repeat my one concern: @rageair, does "Silk Road" really mean just the Silk Road, and not any connected traderoute? Because a lot of mods add more traderoutes, and just scoping to "any_trade_route_province" will evaluate true for any traderoute...
I responded to this in the last DD, only the Silk Road will be affected. I.e. the route with the name 'silk_road' in the files.
 
Wow, Chinese portrait is unexpectedly beautiful. Of course, I like adding new portraits, but how about revising existing portraits? For exmple...French.
 
Will there be any changes to Buddhism in the Tarim Basin? The choosing of different paths of Buddhism is highly ahistorical. In reality only the East Asian nations were Mahayana. Vajrayana in Southeast Asia, and Theravada everywhere else.

Also not all Buddhists celebrate Diwali.
 
Is it possible to attack China or start a invasion on China? Just like how Genghis Khan attacked Northern China (Jin Dynasty) and later on his own grandchild Kublai Khan attacked the Song Dynasty in South China and eventually unified China and created the Yuan Dynasty.
 
How will Mongols work in relation to China? Will you get a warning of Mongols attacking China and see the status change before they arrive on the eastern edge of the map?

What happens when the Mongols conquer China? Does the Mongol Khagan become emperor of China?
 
Though it's unreasonable for a woman to have 30-40 kids, so 'Princes' are represented by kinsmen to the Empress.
Well, actually, I meant whether an on-map female ruler(or a daughter of a ruler, male or female) can marry a son of the Emperor, or not...

Anyway, thanks for explaining.
 
Can you invade China as the Mongols in the 1220 bookmark? It would feel awfully weird playing as the Khan of Khans and having China piss you off with invasions and not be able to do anything about it.
 
Interesting. A few questions:

- Is the AI logic for all Boons and which Boons are available (and where they are available) open to modding? For example, can we restrict imperial marriages to only certain tiers, or disable the ability to request invasions?

- Will the Emperor/Empress of China pay attention to what happens to their daughters/kins(wo)men after they are married off? For example, if we decide that the Chinese wife we got isn't all that good and fail to be discreet when trying to arrange an unfortunate accident, will China get upset and potentially refuse further Boons for that character?

- Will the AI request Boons/send people or gifts to the emperor, and under what circumstances?

- If the Emperor/Empress ends up with some nice artefact, is there any way for us to get it?

- Can we mod under what circumstances the AI will consider becoming a tributary of China?
 
Emperors have family trees though, and you will be able to view the title history of China proper.
Yay! Make sure Wu Zetian gets an appropriate representation with +20 in all skills and gets master seductress, ambitious, just, schemer, attractive, genius, strong, lustful, deceitful, proud, patient, brave and stubborn.

Also, can we invade China and put our dynasty on the throne. It would be cool if you're playing as the Tibetan Empire and you've grown so powerful you could try to invade China or something?

Also, the first starting date in 769 should have China in a weakened state. The Tibetan Empire is at the height of its power and even managed to capture their capital of Chang'an in 763. Also the An Lushan rebellion had greatly weakened China.
 
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What if when China in ruled by a woman? Will she have own a "reverse harem"?

She might prefer that you send her male tribute... intact, yes.

While we are on the topic of reverse harems.

Wouldn't it be both cool and logical if female rulers belonging to cultures that allow concubinage to take concubines? Either after achieving gender equality or through game rules.

And while we're on the topic the game has always had Enatic succession laws built into it but inaccessible. Wouldn't it be cool if we had a game rule that could enable them? Even if it disabled achievements.
 
@rageair

Can you give us an idea of China diplomatic range?

I am asking because I have been watching Macro Polo lately. Apparently one of the Mongol Prince has been in touch with Pope and China. Heck Pope even went as far to sent a force to invade China. The reason is they don't want a Khan of Khan going to war with Pope/Christian people.

Also wikipedia link to a diplomat of Kublai Khan court and where he went in 1287 - 1288. Although it may be weird to summon a regiment of China in Paris. So we have to draw the line somewhere I suppose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VoyagesOfRabbanBarSauma.jpg

 
That image also indirectly confirms a Nepalese portrait pack. So that's three we're getting.

I'm hyped for portrait packs. Aside from the obvious Chinese/Tibetan, and possibly Himalayan, there are still a great deal of cultures without portraits.

Just a few fun guesses on possible future portrait packs:

French Portraits - French, Occitan, and possibly Basque (I know Basques aren't French, but they don't really fit into any other portrait pack).
Carpathian Portraits - Magyar, Vlach, and Bulgarian.
Slavic Portraits - Polish, Pomeranian, Serbian, and Croatian.
Latin Portraits - Italian. (Italians have been featured in two packs already, but still don't have their own unique portraits.)
North African Portraits - Egyptian, and Berber.
Arabian Portraits - Bedouin, and Levantine. (Possibly combined with North African.)
Jewish Portraits - Ashkenazi, and Sephardi. (Highly unlikely for numerous reasons, but hey, you never know!)
Baltic Portraits - Lithuanian, Prussian, Lettigallian. (Already covered by Finno-Ugric Portraits, but deserving of it's own pack imo.)
 
Here's my question:

There are going to be Chinese characters in my court. Does that mean one of my heirs may adopt the Chinese culture?

I think I'd ultimately be alright with not having China proper on the map if there are unique cultural mechanics, events, government type to go with the Chinese culture. Basically, I'd like to be able to form a Chinese empire, but it's going to need to have the flavor to go with it to keep it from being hollow.
 
@rageair

Can you give us an idea of China diplomatic range?

I am asking because I have been watching Macro Polo lately. Apparently one of the Mongol Prince has been in touch with Pope and China. Heck Pope even went as far to sent a force to invade China. The reason is they don't want a Khan of Khan going to war with Pope/Christian people.

Also wikipedia link to a diplomat of Kublai Khan court and where he went in 1287 - 1288. Although it may be weird to summon a regiment of China in Paris. So we have to draw the line somewhere I suppose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VoyagesOfRabbanBarSauma.jpg


Marco Polo TV series isn't remotely historically accurate. The Pope never attempted to invade Mongolia. Catholic-Mongol relations were generally friendly until the Mongols converted to Islam, and even then, they tended to find common cause against the Turks.