Crusader Kings II - Dev Diary 3 - Laws

[Doomdark]

I am sorry, but I'm not sure to understand and I would like to have some precisions.

In the medieval times there where 3 considerations for succession law :

1. A male preference succession law where females should inherit when there is no more males. This is the most common succession law in the medieval era but wasn't implemented in CK1. This succession law is commonly named cognatic.
2. What CK1 named "semi-salic" which is the Plantagenêt interpretation of the salic law : only males can inherits, but female could grant to their sons rights to inherits. You say that the cognatic law of CK2 is "semi-salic".
3. What CK1 named salic which is the Valois interpretation of the salic law : only males can inherits, only males can grant to their sons rights to inherits.

Does the "cognatic law of CK2" si for the 1st or the 2nd case ?
Thanks in advance.

Cognatic as implemented means that females may inherit in the absence of eligible males. I suppose it should actually be called Agnatic-Cognatic Succession.

 

[Doomdark]

As a count I'd rather expect not to have any vassal dukes at all. So does this relate to my non-existant vassals? My king (my liege the king of Sweden), or the local king (of Norway).

Basically I'm trying to understand how this works for the lesser ranks.

A count has vassal barons. It works exactly the same.

 

[Doomdark]

Will this mean game over, as in CK1? I hated that. I want to be able to continue as my daughter! (however weird that sounds )

Unless you have a Cognatic Succession Law (or you're playing something other than a feudal realm) it is game over, yes. End of the line.

 

[Doomdark]

Yes well what can you say when someone goes coo coo for coacoa puffs over a slight difference in an inheretence law. Or was he going crazy that is was named differently? I mean, I can understand getting upset about inheretence laws to a degree, but seemed a little over the top for the difference between salic and semi-salic. I don't think I've ever played a ck1 game where I didn't have a male son anyways.

Even worse, we are still more than a year from release and none of the laws are really nailed down. Adding more succession laws and options is a distinct possibility.

 

[Doomdark]

And what's up with church inheritance (bishops)?

I'm saving that for a future dev diary.

 

[Doomdark]

I had a question/idea regarding titles under elective law; will the current title holder be able to get his son or other (male?) relative elected as his successor during his lifetime?
Most elected royals and nobles tried this (if it was allowed), but they weren't always successful, so I suggest some kind of event chain.
Furthermore this should also include an event were the estates (parliament etc.) offer to make the title hereditary in exchange for privileges.

Not "elected" as such. You nominate a successor and can always see who currently has the most votes. This person will succeed unless something changes.

 

[Darkrenown]

Doomie is still on holiday, but there is an interview with King:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?514619-CKII-GameReactor-Interview

 

[Doomdark]

Hmm, I only just noticed the first line and obscure references.
Is that to the Lords of Midnight series of games? I used to play those excessively. I used to just stack up in Xajorkith and await the chance to counterattack
If winter is here is that a reference to George R R Martin's HBO adaptation of A Game of Thrones?
Cheers and apologies if it has been pointed out in the previous 16 pages that I have not read,
Mammoth

Good to see some other old timers around.

 

[Doomdark]

Besides half the game's potential market is women. And women really, really, really do not enjoy discriminating against themselves because some Swedish dude told them to. And that's how they'd see it if Doomdark made it impossible for them to make their 20-Diplo Crown Princess daughters Chancellor.

Nick

Not to worry, women will play a much bigger role in CKII.