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Hello, I'm Crusader Kings II developer Goosecreature. You may remember me from such Developer Diaries as "Events and Decisions" and "The Heathens are Coming." Today I'll be talking a bit about - you guessed it - the events and decisions of The Old Gods. This expansion will introduce many of these and not just for the Vikings.

As a Norse Pagan, you can hold a blot every nine years during winter. This is a good way of making your vassals like you more, and it is somewhat similar to a feast with one big difference – the human sacrifice. During a blot, four random prisoners will be brought up from your dungeon and you will have to decide whether or not to sacrifice them to the Allfather for prestige and piety. If you have no prisoners, some nameless thralls will be sacrificed instead but this won't bring you nearly as much renown. Anyone can be sacrificed, including close family members, but you will earn extra piety if your victim is a Christian or a Muslim. These are harsh times and the world is not a friendly place.

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Another way of increasing your prestige is to commission a runestone. This can be done only once in a character's lifetime, and you can choose to devote it either to yourself or one of your parents. The Scandinavian dueling tradition of holmgång is also in the game, and Norse characters can, under certain circumstances, challenge each other to single combat on an isolated islet. There are also events for Norse characters leaving to join the Varangian Guard, the discovery of Greenland and Vinland, characters gaining the Viking or Berserker traits, the appearance of the Jomsvikings and the Seljuks, völur (mystic seers) joining your court, and many more.

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The Mongols will have a decision to hold the nerge, a great hunt in which most of their army participates. This is in essence a massive military training exercise that sees the different wings of the Mongol army coordinating maneuvers and driving wildlife before them in close formation. Once encircled, the wildlife is killed and the army gains both provisions and invaluable experience working together as a single fighting force. Doing this will give your armies a morale boost.

Suomenusko pagans will be able to hold the Ukon Juhla festival, where they worship the god Ukko in the hope of improving their harvests. For Romuva pagans, the Užgavenes festival can be held in spring, where effigies to winter are burnt and the coming of summer is celebrated. Finally, Slavic pagans can hold a festival in the name of the god Jarilo, in which a random vassal is given the honor of representing Jarilo and paraded around wearing bells and other glamorous clothing.

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This doesn't cover everything, but as I wanted to write a bit about something else, it will have to do for now.

There have been a lot of requests for us to go into more detail on the Zoroastrians, which is something we hadn't originally planned to do for the Dev Diaries. In order to please YOU (yes, you in particular), the next part of this diary will be devoted to them.

For those who aren't familiar with it, Zoroastrianism is an ancient religion that originated in Persia. It predates the Abrahamic faiths by quite a bit, and was the state religion of the Achaemenid, Parthian and Sassanid empires. Its decline as a major religion came with the Arab invasion of Persia and the spread of Islam in the 7th century, but pockets would still remain in the Central Asian hinterlands of the former Sassanid Empire centuries later.

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By 867, the common folk in several parts of Persia still cling to Zoroastrianism but they are the subjects of Muslim rulers and their conversion to the Mohammedan faith is only a matter of time. Just north of these domains, along the eastern shores of the Caspian Sea, Satrap Vandad of the Karen dynasty rules the last independent Zoroastrian realm on the map. This is a challenging starting position and reclaiming Persia and its holy sites for the Zoroastrian faith will not be easy, but it can be done.

Zoroastrianism is not a member of the Pagan religious group, and so they have no need to reform their religion. They will start the game in 867 without a High Priest, but if you hold the Persian Empire there is a decision to restore the position of the Moabadan-Moabad (the Priest of Priests). Just like the Pope, this priest can grant divorces and sanction invasions against other Zoroastrian realms. You'll probably be the only one at this point, so this likely won't do you much good unless your carefully built Zoroastrian empire fragments in civil war.

Also, Zoroastrian rulers are able to enter holy marriages with close relatives of the opposite gender. Such a sacred union will increase their standing among vassals, but producing a healthy heir may become a problem... fortunately, you can always fall back on your concubines for that.

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If you manage to stage a miraculous Zoroastrian recovery and reclaim the Persian Empire, you will have the option of declaring yourself the Saoshyant, the chosen savior of the world mentioned in prophecy by Zoroaster himself. This will not only earn you a new nickname, but you will also get a new trait that significantly boosts the opinion of all Zoroastrian characters towards you. All future descendants of the Saoshyant will also get a less powerful version of this trait, even if they convert to a different religion.

That's all I have for now. I hope you'll have a pleasant Wednesday!
 
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For example the name "Stanimir" could be "Stas" in Russian, "Stanko" in Bulgarian, "Stanek" in Polish, and "Tsane" in Serbo-Croatian.
"Tsane" is not used in either Serbian or Croatian. Mostly because the letter combination "ts" is never used. "Stanko" and "Stanimir" are likely to pop up as names tho.
 
Well if Greenland was included it'd be totally uninhabited, as all the peoples of that area had died out a good long time before the vikings arrived.

Ironically the vikings of the Greenland settlements were more native to greenland than the Inuit. So the Vikings faced an Inuit invasion, rather than vikings invading the inuits lands.
So... Inuit Invasion DLC? :p
 
Lol! If you look at the bottom left of the fourth picture in the Zoroastrian religion map you'll see dem Catholics have North Africa! At 1088.
 
Lol! If you look at the bottom left of the fourth picture in the Zoroastrian religion map you'll see dem Catholics have North Africa! At 1088.

Well not so bad when you consider he started in 867, and I'd say the muslims have been a tad distracted by the Zoroastrian pounding through their midst. Assuming it is just playtesting.
 
As someone who is an expert of the Parthians on my university i have to say the dev diary is wrong to claim that the Zoroastrism was the state religion of the Parthians. This is allmost totally wrong. We know two Parthian Kings which had closer Courtiers which favoured this religion, but neither was any Parthian King Zoroastrier nor was it a state religion. The Parthians were Polytheistic and had their own gods and transfered them in the many greek gods.

The Old Persians were also not Zoroastrians. They whorshipped a preform of that religion were zoroas was not the most important part. Many also claim that the Symbol of the Zoroastrism (in the CoA of the Persian Empire in CK2) was also the Flagg of the Old Persians, but that is not proved. The simbol was found on a relief but that means nothing, because you have that with many symbols.

Finally the Zoroastrism is something that became state religion and really important the first time under the Sassanids.

Parthians were perhaps not often Zoroastrians, but the Achaemenids, at least starting with Darius the Great, were Zoroastrians. I don't know that you'd call it the "state religion" since the Achaemenid Empire was culturally diverse, but it was the court religion and the religion of the capital. The Zoroastiran heyday was definitely the Sassinid Empire, tho.


A question for the devs: since the non Abrahamic faiths have different sets of virtues, what will they be doing with the 7 virtues and 7 sins? For example, Honesty was the chief virtue of Zoroastrian religion, and lust was considered a virtue as well (it was the job of mankind to experience the world, as this fought off the forces of evil).
 
So what's the deal with being a Saoshyant? How do people (and the game) react to you declaring yourself a non-dynastic bastard? How do they react when you inevitably fail to recreate the world without evil?

Also will similar things be added for other religions, like declaring yourself the second coming of Christ?
 
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So... Inuit Invasion DLC? :p

Dear god no.

Lol! If you look at the bottom left of the fourth picture in the Zoroastrian religion map you'll see dem Catholics have North Africa! At 1088.

He started in 867, meaning that there was plenty of time for a realistic christian invasion of Africa. I just hope it wasn't Venice or Amalfi.

Jarilo? Are they serious? Where are the human sacrifices? Especially children.
I was unaware they performed human sacrifice. Maybe they'll add it in. Unless you're being sarcastic, of course.

A question for the devs: since the non Abrahamic faiths have different sets of virtues, what will they be doing with the 7 virtues and 7 sins? For example, Honesty was the chief virtue of Zoroastrian religion, and lust was considered a virtue as well (it was the job of mankind to experience the world, as this fought off the forces of evil).
I doubt they can change the current system to much. I've messed around in the trait files, and there is no way to add different effects to traits based on the character's religion.

So what's the deal with being a Saoshyant? How do people (and the game) react to you declaring yourself a non-dynastic bastard? How do they react when you inevitably fail to recreate the world without evil?


Also will similar things be added for other religions, like declaring yourself the second coming of Christ?

To avoid offending religious people, a second coming of Christ is unlikely. As for being Saoshyant, I assume a lot of piety bonuses would be involved; we have to hope for flavor.
 
To avoid offending religious people, a second coming of Christ is unlikely. As for being Saoshyant, I assume a lot of piety bonuses would be involved; we have to hope for flavor.
I don't see how it would be more offensive than having a Saoshyant? Unless you mean Christian people specifically, which are probably a big part of Paradox's audience to be fair. But in practical terms they're pretty much the same - virgin births who usher in the glorious apocalypse.

As for piety bonuses, sure - initially. But what happens when it turns out you can't put your money where your mouth is? Unless Paradox adds some actual system for destroying all evil in the world (no more vices?) your failure is pretty much inevitable. And if nothing else, any/all pretenders should get strong claims on your titles and any further inheritances should pass you by since by claiming to be a figure born of a virgin, you're saying you're not a legitimate part of your dynasty. Ideally I reckon you'd just be forming a new dynasty, but unless I'm mistaken that can't currently happen during play - if it could a decent cadet system would be higher priority than this. So I'm very curious how Paradox will be making this work.
 
Wow... I can only express my gratitude to Paradox for fulfilling that fan request. Well done guys.
 
Runestones probably not, but they can always ask the pope for an invasion CB just like any other God-fearing Catholic.
Did Cnut ask? At any rate, it would make sense for certain things to not change right when a character changes religion, but wait a generation or two. However I doubt Paradox will do that because it would be a non-trivial amount of work, and a substantial amount of data to track for a not huge benefit, plus there would need to be new UI to convey that information.
 
Mapping real-life wars to game CBs is a way to madness - but put simply Cnut could invade England with a claim or by papal invasion if Christian, he doesn't really need the pagan prepared invasion CB (which was the point being made).