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Dev Diary #162 - Steppe by Steppe

Note: You can listen to today's Dev Diary here!

Өглөөний мэнд!

I am here to welcome you to a special kind of Development Diary – It's the first of a series, but the rest will come later and not in the following weeks. We're working on a comprehensive system for the Nomads of the Steppe, and while we are knee-deep in the production of the expansion, we still want to introduce you to the features as soon as possible, with the aim of collecting feedback and acting on it during our approaching iteration phase.

For that reason we are showing screenshots earlier than usual, so do keep in mind that all shown here is still a work in progress.

Therefore, some small caveats:
  • Layouts, visuals, and other aspects of the UI may change as we continue to refine these systems.
  • The map set up is also not final and we are open to feedback.
  • All values and numbers are still subject to balancing, and some of them are mere placeholders while we work on the features.
  • This is an overview of the next DLC. The following Dev Diaries will go more in depth about all features at a later date – we need time to act on the feedback we get from you, so dev diaries for this update will not be releasing weekly just yet.



Nomadic Government

At the core of this update lies the new Nomadic Government. This new government type is heavily inspired by the rulers of the Eurasian Steppe, and puts a heavy emphasis on herd, might, and land.

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[Initial distribution in 1178.]

But what do we mean by that?

Herd

Your cattle and horses are represented by a new currency only available to Nomads called "Herd". In the Steppe, Herd is incredibly valuable and plays a big role in how other Nomads perceive you: it can be used for ransoming, dowry, bribes and even be stolen via a scheme or raiding. It controls who the Cultural Head is and serves as a gate for increasing Dominance (we will talk more about this later in this Diary).

Herd is obtained both through the land by exploiting its Fertility and through your Nomadic subjects via their contracts, since Nomads don't have a stable income. We will talk more in depth about this in the "Land" section below.

One of the main changes when it comes to Nomads is that they do not use levies. Instead, they transform a percentage of their Herd into Horde Riders.

Horde Riders are the most basic type of Men-at-Arms that Nomads have access to. However, these Riders can be then upgraded to better MAAs types, such as Horse Archers, for a cost of gold. These numbers don't come from a vacuum, however; if I want to create 100 Horse Archers, then I will lose 100 Horde Riders as they are converted into the new unit.

Basic Horde Riders don't have an associated maintenance cost, but the other MAAs do in the form of monthly prestige.

We've opted for this change because warring was an essential part of the Steppe life, and levies did not exist per se, as every able warrior would be called when the time was needed. From a more mechanical standpoint, we wanted Nomads to have fewer, but stronger and more significant, MAAs.

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The percentage depicted in the screenshot above represents what percentage of your Herd can be converted into Horde, as not all of them are mounts suitable for war. This percentage can be affected by yurt buildings, dynasty perks, character modifiers and other factors.

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[Extremely WIP, we are aware of some issues like the Maintenance cost not being displayed]

To reflect the importance of your people, the names on a Nomadic map are also different from our regular naming conventions. It is the Borjigin Mongols that move across the map, not the Duchy of Örgöö.

The Cultural Head gets to take the cultural name (The Mongols), while the smaller rulers have a combination of their House Name + Culture (The Borjigin Mongols). To better reflect the dynamics of the Steppe, we have also changed the way that the Cultural Head is selected in Nomadic governments: the ruler with the biggest Herd becomes the Head instead, independently of their title.

The names on the map, as well as this naming convention using culture are still work in progress, and we are open to hear your suggestions.

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[Note that we may remove the "The" to make the titles more readable.]



Might

In the Steppe, might makes right. Titles are not as important as actual strength, and to reflect this we've made a series of changes that only affect Nomads.

Nomadic rulers have access to Dominance, a measurement of their perceived power. Low Dominance implies a relatively insignificant chieftain, while the maximum Dominance represents the rise of Genghis Khan.

Dominance is a fixed scale, a mountain that Nomads have to climb, with each level being a hard-achieved goal that each ruler must work towards. Only those who have a Herd of a significant enough size are allowed to reach the next level.

Dominance affects things such as Vassal and Domain limits, with the lower levels having a very reduced number of both, but with higher levels offering impressive bonuses. Dominance also governs the tiers that you are allowed to target during your migration (more on this in "Land"), access to special Men-at-Arms, title and vassal revocation, settlement outside of the Steppe, flavourful decisions and more.

Obedience

You'll need loyal followers if you're going to take over the world – and it does not matter by what means you've ensured their loyalty.

Obedience is a binary state – either you are obedient or not. Every character that's a subject or courtier has Obedience towards their overlord. Obedience works as a threshold; if a character is below the threshold then they will be unruly, plotting against their overlord or just having general acceptance maluses to various interactions. However, if a character is above the threshold then they will not form factions, start hostile schemes against their liege, and – more importantly – will take their side during the Kurultai succession by voting for whichever heir was your preferred one. The Kurultai is formed by special members of your Council, and having them on your side is extremely important for Nomads.

Obedience is calculated based on several parameters like the relationship with the other character, friendship, their traits and whether you have granted them a Kurultai or Court Position.

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Land

Nomads grow their Herd by extracting Fertility from the land. Thus, migrating becomes an important part of their loop in the early stages of the game, when their realms are not big enough to accommodate the horde.

County Fertility is calculated primarily based on the terrain type. Nomads deplete Fertility of the counties they hold until it stabilises at a fixed number where the Herd can be maintained. This number is mostly affected by the domain size, but Stewardship, dynasty perks, yurt buildings and other character modifiers can affect it.

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Migration

When the Domain Fertility is depleted, it's time to migrate.

Migration targets de jure titles, and the available title tiers you can target depend on your level of Dominance. A Nomadic ruler of Dominance level 2 can only target counties and duchies, whereas someone with level 3 can target kingdoms as well.

This means that smaller rulers should migrate frequently, either find abandoned lands occupied by Herders, or subjugate themselves before bigger rulers. Bigger rulers in the Steppe should, on the other hand, adopt a more sedentary way of life and demand Obedience and Tribute from rulers in their sphere.

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[This panel is subject to reorganizations and reworks.]

The migration screen allows you to negotiate with the local rulers. If two or more independent rulers occupy the same de jure territory, then the ruler with the highest Herd leads the negotiations with you. You can use gold, herd, or a hook to bribe them, and their acceptance depends on their relationship with you, your Dominance level relative to theirs, your Prestige, Prowess, Herd size, their traits, and other minor factors.

If they accept, you will start a travel plan that will take you and your herd to the desired location. If the location had already been suggested by perhaps a courtier you may get some extra bonuses for following the desires of your people.

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However, many nomads may refuse to give up their lands, especially if they have a high level of Dominance and find themselves pretty comfortable where they are. In those cases, one must resort to war.

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[Total soldiers aren't being calculated in this screenshot. Keep in mind that this is from a development build!]

Migration wars allow the attacker to take the lands by means of force.

The targeted ruler will be either displaced to their other lands if they hold any titles outside of the de jure, or be made landless – similar to Administrative Noble Families or Adventurers. While landless, Nomads keep their yurts and upgrades but can't grow their Herd due to the lack of stable access to Fertility. They roam the Steppe in search of a new place to set up their tents.

No matter how you choose to migrate, your Obedient vassals will follow you, while non obedient ones will keep their titles and lands and stay where they were. The lands that you leave behind will be occupied by someone else entirely…

Herders

Nomads are not the only rulers that inhabit the Steppe. A new unplayable government type called "Herder" populates the map with shepherds that wander small counties. Herders replenish Fertility over time, and are extremely easy to displace, given their lack of armies. They are the ones occupying those counties left behind by migrations.

Having a Herder as a subject is still possible, however, and they will pay a small, fixed rate of herd based on their county's fertility.

One may also choose to voluntarily abandon one of their counties to a local herder, in the hopes that they will replenish Fertility quick enough for them to seize it back. The Steppe is not merciful, however, and another Nomad ruler may be faster than you.

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[We indeed have several sheep variations.]



The Great Steppe

Life in the Steppe is not easy, and being at the mercy of the weather and pasture quality is something that nomads have had to adjust to since time immemorial (up to this day, in fact). To reflect this, we've created a seasonal system that governs the general climate of the steppe.

The Great Steppe is divided into three subregions: Western, Central and Eastern, each of them with their own season.

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[Another very WIP screenshot, artpass pending.]

Seasons affect the Fertility of the subregion, as a White Zud creates a thick layer of snow that prevents the animals from grazing, while a more moderate and warm weather offers the perfect climate for pastoring.

That’s not the only effect they have though, as different seasons also change the general mood within Nomads. If a ruler extorts their vassals for Herd during an Abundant Grazing season, then they will receive more than usual, and a Severe Drought will promote characters to migrate even more than usual.

The two special and rare seasons of Havsarsan Zud and the Blessing of the Blue Sky explore these effects even further, with the Blessing amply increasing the Fertility of the subregion and the terrible Havsarsan Zud allowing rulers to take a desperate stance, making all of their subjects obedient and getting an invasion CB on settled people. One of the academic reasons given for the Mongolian Invasion is, after all, the lack of pasture in the Steppe at that point in time.

Your Stargazer can also help predict the next season depending on their aptitude. More on this in upcoming diaries!

The Gurkhan

Only one character in the entire Steppe can go on to the highest level of Dominance and become the Greatest of Khans, but we will provide you with tools to stop them.

The Gurkhan is whoever has the largest Herd within the Great Steppe. They are on their way to reach the highest Dominance and are a threat to all. Confederations may form to target them, while hostile scheming and wars may target them more frequently, and the Gurkhan will have to prove that they deserve their seat.



Your Yurt

Nomads have no buildings. Whatever they build is carried with them when they migrate. To represent this, Nomadic Holdings cannot have any other buildings than some basic corrals, but in turn they have access to a new domicile type: the Yurt Settlement.

Yurt Settlements have a main yurt that can be upgraded internally, and several other specialised buildings that give upgrades to pasture management, warfare, diplomacy, raiding, and more.

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[Names and art are not final]

Tributaries

During this Development Diary, you may have observed my careful use of "Subject" instead of "Vassal", and here is the reason why.

Tributaries are a new and looser type of subject introduced with this expansion. Nomadic Tributaries specifically have some unique qualities to them.

The Tributary Contract governs the levels of Obligations (or Tribute) that they may pay to their Suzerain. While the tribute is being, sent all is well and a truce is held between the two of them. The tributary relationship is even inherited across generations.

However, tributaries may become unruly over time, and if the suzerain doesn't look that threatening to them then they may eventually opt to stop paying tribute. To bring them back into the fold, a former suzerain can bring them back under tribute by force, pacifying them and extracting both resources and prestige to a greater extent.

Nomadic Tributaries offer a payment in herd, while settled tributaries give gold to their Nomadic suzerains.

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[Art and map visualization are still in progress.]

Tributaries can be obtained through a Character Interaction to Demand Tribute or through a Casus Belli. A ruler may also voluntarily offer themselves as Tribute to a Nomadic Ruler to ensure that their lands are spared from destruction.

As with the other features covered in this dev diary, we will do a deep dive on the Tributary system at a later date.

Confederations

With the rise of all these powerful and dangerous khans in the Steppe, lower-tier Nomadic rulers may decide to band together against a bigger enemy through forming a Confederation.

For those in a Confederation, an assault on one member is an affront against all members, so everyone in a Confederation joins defensive wars being fought by fellow members. This potent defensive power is balanced against checks on expansion: as long as they belong to their Confederation, members cannot increase their Dominance or create new titles.

Raid Intents

Raiding is one of the main ways Nomads have to get access to Gold. Given the importance that raiding had in their society, we have decided to expand this feature by adding Raid Intents.

A Raid Intent allows to set a desired outcome of the raiding: you may want to raid to capture interesting characters, steal your neighbors' cattle, or simply burn their property to the ground.

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[Art and names are placeholder, so are the intents themselves as we may change or tweak them.]

Some of the Raid Intents will also be available for Tribal characters, while others need specific Nomadic unlocks.

Nomadic Flavor

Lastly, we are adding a number of new Character Interactions, Decisions, Activity Types, a new Vassal Stance, Events, and more focused on unique Nomadic flavour. Genghis Khan's famous storyline and Mongolian specific events will, of course, also make an appearance.

Expect to see a Kurultai, Blood Brotherhoods, Paizas and Kublai Khan's famous Pleasure Dome. More on this to come.

There are many things that we have left out of this Diary because our focus is on the main mechanical features introduced with this expansion, but we will come back to all of this in more detail in the future.

Thanks for reading. We are eagerly awaiting your thoughts and feedback.
 
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At this point, as someone who also really wants to see a Catholic overhaul, I hope they wait and do it last just because of how annoying these crusade fetishists have gotten with their “woe-is-me” pity party every time an equally (if not more) necessary expansion gets development time.

Give me Nomads. Merchants. China map expansion. Indian flavor. North Africa flavor. Hell, let’s get England flavor pack and Royal Court Redux. Greenland flavor pack. Wandering Nobles 2 AND 3. Sunset Invasion. Glitterhoof horse armor cosmetic pack. Protestant flavor pack. Put it all in before anything involving the Pope or crusades.

I think it's similar to the people asking about admin government for Byzantines before RTP came out. I basically only play the Byzantines for the most part, so I merely stopped playing the game between 2020 and 2024 and return when I see they are finally giving us Byzantine admin government.

I think those pope-crusading fans can also just go play other games and wait for a DLC to come out eventually.
 
I think if you don't implement the mechanics of the horse as the greatest value of the nomads in the steppe, it will be a big omission. Perhaps they should be made as artifacts, but most likely it will have to be done in a separate window. After all, for a nomad, a horse is a super-wonder weapon: a means of transportation, a friend, a source of milk, kumiss, the ability to save meat during a race, and even if the horse dies, it is a source of meat, glue, bones can be used for fishing. Many conflicts occurred because of cool horses.
 
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Im just hoping, for a very long time, they will finally give us decent crusades and the religious powerplay etc. that comes with it. As the game is well… Crusader Kings.. not Steppe Riders or Mongol Lords.. or Byzantine Emperors.. and as most crusader kings where european…
Most Crusader kings were French or at least related to France, and I won't mind if the map only includes France and Palestine.
 
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Ok so a few things;
1. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH! The game shall now be complete in my mind, this is what it's been missing!
2. The main thing I'm interested in right now is not necessarily playing nomads but rather how they affect the world of Ck3. I guess what I'm asking is will nomads' actions be felt in the rest of the world if that makes sense? Like, in the middle ages irl, nomads migrated everywhere, Europe, Persia, Anatolia, China, etc. They really made an impact on the world. I sure hope y'all make a setting where nomads migrate like crazy into non-nomad lands and really affect the cultural and religous landscape of the world.
3. If a nomad migrates to a non-nomad land, will they automatically convert some of their new counties to their culture / faith?
4. I understand what you say about adding nomadic government to places other than the steppe and your descision makes sense. If it's not too presumptuous, I'd like to remind you that although adding admin government to places other than Byzantium wasn't your focus either, you still allowed it as a game rule. Could you not allow game rules for Bedouins as well?

But seriously thank you so much for this!
 
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Very Excited to see some love for the steppe! I remember reading in the early days of ck3 that the great steppe was gonna be tribal and it was one of the few major thing that disappointed me with ck3 having previously played ck2 a lot. Having said that, the features that have returned in new form like admin government have been a great improvement/evolution of what we had in the previous game and from what i can see here makes me very excited to see what ck3 form of nomadic government will bring!

Clearly this was some basic and alpha footage we got to see of this nomadic dlc but again i am very excited from what i have seen and i am eagerly looking forward to future dev diaries! :D
 
Are there any plans to rework the Baikal region? It is known that in the 9th century, the Kurmuchins and Kurykans lived there, who are ancestors of the present-day Yakuts of the Turkic language group. Also, are there any plans to represent the diversity of Buryat groups, including the Ekhirit, Bulagat, and Khori? Additionally, it would be a good idea to add Yakut culture, which is a mix of Turkic-Baikal and Mongolic-Buryat influences
 
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it can be used for ransoming, dowry,
Oh wow, are we really getting dowries? I'm super excited! :D I hope they're very complex and available for every government type. Rulers used to send resources like gold and servants as part of a woman's dowry—concubines for your daughter's husband, or levies and MAAs, and even land! It would be a perfect way to convince higher-tier rulers to marry a duke's daughter: offering even a duchy. Dowries were too important for marriages, almost no nobleman married without expecting one. Some noble families even forced their daughters to become nuns because they couldn't afford their dowries. This system will surely shape how rulers build connections and alliances!!
 
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What would happen if nomadic groups chose to settle down? How would it affect the culture of the region?

Is it possible for a nomadic group to overthrow a ruler and take power, similar to how the Mamluks, originally nomadic slaves, rose to leadership?

Speaking of slavery, will there be a slave trade in the game? The Crimean Tatars, for example, captured and sold slaves, given their historical involvement in such activities.

Also, could players be given the option to destroy buildings in the game? For instance, being able to destroy iconic structures like the House of Wisdom, making them irreplaceable and non-rebuildable, would be an interesting gameplay mechanic.

Lastly, would there be trade routes in the game, like the Silk Road or fur trade? Nomadic societies heavily relied on trade centers, which were crucial for their survival and prosperity.
 
I hope that adventurers can become nomads. I think that defeated settled realms that lose all their territory on the border of the steppe should get so decide to become nomadic.
We in fact have some examples. First being Yujiulü Mugulü, founder of Rouran Khaganate. According to some record, he was first a fled slave of Northern Wei. Another being Yelü Dashi. After the fall of Liao Dynasty, he fled with 200 calavaries to town of Kedun (Ordo-Baliq in Uyghur Khaganate) and finally founded Qara-Khitai.
 
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I really like the mechanics and visuals planned for the steppe, this will make the region very fun to play in! Bear with me as I got a few questions about steppe history.

1) Is there some emphasis on metalworking? It formed a great part of the society, culture, religion, and economy of the steppe peoples.

2) Will there be a review of the 867 setup?. There seems to be no substantial evidence that the Yenisei Kyrgyz extended their power into the Mongolian steppe, as claimed in "Breaking the Orkhon Tradition: Kirghiz Adherence to the Yenisei Region after A.D. 840". The Kyrgyz would've concentrated their power in Siberia and Northwest Mongolia while the steppe might've been populated by remaining Uyghurs and migrating Mongolic groups.

3) Can nomads establish cities, especially in the Orkhon, if they get powerful enough? The Turkic peoples established a number of cities on the steppe until the end of the Uyghur Khaganate. The capital, Ordubalyq, was especially large. The Khitans later made city outposts, then the Mongols made Karakorum and other cities. Sure there weren't a lot of them, but they were built to cement the power of a powerful state and attract foreign merchants, workers, and diplomats.

4) Can the Uyghurs re-establish the Uyghur Khaganate and rebuild their cities?

5) This might be me getting ahead of myself, but will the development of a legal system and state administration play a role in Mongol Empire content?

6) Is there a possibility of a Khitan invasion in 924? I understand if there isn't, since it might not be fun for a Borjigin player on the edge of the map.
 
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Hype, I'm excited for this
 
Hoping that some of the new mechanics you alluded to (dowries, converting levies to MAA, confederations, etc.) end up being available to everyone in the game in some form.
 
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Is it possible to raid holding into non existence? In CK2 you could continue to keep raiding holdings untill its completely destroyed

Also, the land that nomads hold in the steppe region, does it have any holding? I'm not talking about historical cities like Samarkand but generic regions like Kazakh steppe where there were no historical settlements and just plain steppe
 
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Give me Nomads. Merchants. China map expansion. Indian flavor. North Africa flavor. Hell, let’s get England flavor pack and Royal Court Redux. Greenland flavor pack. Wandering Nobles 2 AND 3. Sunset Invasion. Glitterhoof horse armor cosmetic pack. Protestant flavor pack.
I actually also want the "Protestant", India, Merchant and North Africa flavor packs, mind you, but gods no not Sunset Invasion again.
Glitterhoof ... I feel neutral about that one. But since Nomads are confirmed, "Genghis Khan" Glitterhoof certainly would harvest a lot of views on YouTube.