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Dev Diary #175 - Ritsuryō, Sōryō, Meritocratic

Hey, I’m Chop, a designer working on the upcoming All Under Heaven expansion, particularly Japan and Korea. Speaking of which, in today’s development diary we will be exploring the Japanese archipelago and Korean peninsula! Let’s take a closer look at the gameplay mechanics of three new government types: Ritsuryō, Sōryō, and Meritocratic.




The Land of the Rising Sun

The Japanese islands occupy an interesting position, being near enough to China to have been heavily influenced by its culture, but remote enough to have largely escaped direct interference from its Hegemons. Expanding to eventually cover the southern islands of Kyūshū and Shikoku, and most of the main island of Honshū, the Yamato people occupy most of the archipelago united under a single emperor, and with no real external threats.

However, the northern reaches of Honshū are populated by the Emishi tribes, further north the Ainu tribes reside on the island of Hokkaidō, and far to the south the island chains of Okinawa and Amami are home to the Ryukyuan tribes. Famed horse archers, the Emishi have long struggled against encroachment from their southern neighbors, who have launched incremental campaigns of conquest for centuries.

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[The Japanese political map, note coats of arms are work in progress]

Eagle-eyed diary readers will notice that Japan is no longer red, instead taking the Murasaki purple of the wisteria flower, to add some visual distinction from Chinese Hegemons of the crimson variety.


A Fragile Peace

During our period, Japan transitioned from a peaceful bureaucratic realm headed by aristocratic families, to a military shogunate dominated by more pragmatic samurai families, but is still a largely unwarlike place, far from the more militarized Japan of the later Sengoku era.

Amidst all this, there is also a ruling emperor, or Ten’nō, who is nominally the head of state, but whose power varies considerably depending on the circumstances. The Yamato dynasty has held this position in an unbroken line from ancient times, even up to the present day.

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[The government split inside Japan at the 1066 bookmark.]

We strived to represent both of these styles of governments, as well the transition between them, along with the ever-present imperial family.


The Ritsuryō System

In our earlier start dates, the Heian (Peace) era is in full-swing, following Emperor Kanmu’s establishment of the aptly named capital of Heian-kyō (now Kyōto) in 794. This bustling city’s palace is the center of the government bureaucracy and home of the imperial family, with the Manors of the aristocratic families close at hand.

Taking inspiration from China, Ritsuryō is the Japanese legal framework, and as in China, the many provinces of Japan are assigned to governors, or kokushi. Along with the many branches of the Fujiwara family, the other aristocratic families of note compete for appointments and recognition.

Unlike China, the government is de facto directed by a regent ruling on behalf of the sitting emperor. For gameplay purposes, we have simplified the naming distinction between regents of underage emperors, Sesshō, and those of adult emperors, under the unified name Kampaku. Though nominally a regent, the Kampaku is not in a Diarch relationship with the emperor, and both characters may have their own Diarch when relevant.

Historically the position of regent was totally dominated by the main line of the Fujiwara family, who tried to minimize the influence of the imperial family beyond their ceremonial roles and maintain their pre-eminence among nobility. The Fujiwara were an extremely prolific family, whose influence and sheer size essentially dwarfed those of any other family, with almost 500 living members in 1178. Playing as another bureaucratic family attempting to unseat the Fujiwara is a great challenge in itself, though not impossible.

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[Example of Kampaku succession score]

Becoming Kampaku works similarly to the Acclamation succession of Byzantium, and can be directly raised or lowered by spending Influence, but also has a unique system of specific weights related to the imperial family, and Blocs (which we will discuss more below).

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[The Japanese province map]

Also unlike China or other administrative government types in the game, provinces are largely county tier appointments, and generally a governor cannot hold more than one at the same time. This represents the historic Ritsuryō provinces, or kuni, of Japan, and the fragmented power of any one official. Almost all historical kuni are represented as counties in-game, except for a few exceptions which were deemed too small and incorporated into a neighbour, such as Iga, Shima, and Awa (in Chiba).

By default, Ritsuryō rulers cannot create duchies or kingdoms in Japan, even the Kampaku. Shrewd Houses may instead fill many appointments with their own members, leveraging their power as a united family rather than as individuals, a theme common in our Japanese features.

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[The Japanese Manor domicile, art is work in progress]

The Manor is a new type of domicile, unique to Japanese governments, with its own buildings, art, and bonuses. Sōryō (more on that shortly) is our only non-administrative government type that grants an estate-style domicile, retaining any upgrades when switching between the Japanese government types. Some building chains are only unlocked by certain House Aspirations, which will be discussed more later.

The Chrysanthemum Throne

Though historically the emperor was largely sidelined, the Yamato family was still an influential political force. Over time, it became common for emperors to become monks, abdicating the throne to their heir to escape the direct responsibilities of the throne, while still influencing politics as a so-called cloistered emperor, or Hōō.

In All Under Heaven, the emperor is a playable character, a member of the Yamato family who holds a Noble Family and Manor like other Ritsuryō rulers, and has their own Royal Court. The emperor is only a valid candidate for the regency of Japan itself, while other members of the Yamato family are valid candidates only for governorships.

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[The Emperor of Japan, note art is still WIP]

If an emperor does manage to take the top title by Influence, they will receive an event where they are given the option to abdicate and rule Japan as a powerful cloistered emperor, or attempt to hold on to both titles, representing the historical possibility of renewed direct rule, though doing so will not be well received by the chattering classes.

Historically, many branches of the Yamato family were eventually disinherited to prune the royal ranks, taking new names, the most famous being the various Taira and Minamoto houses, identified by which emperor they descend from. In our game, Yamato governors can form or join these houses, organically creating new branch families.

Imperial Policies

The sitting top liege of Japan, be they Kampaku, Shōgun, or Ten’no, always has access to a unique law category, Imperial Policies, issued in the name of the emperor. Despite the relative political stability, the policies of the Japanese government varied substantially throughout our era, as the bureaucracy was replaced and external politics changed. Like Crown Authority, Imperial Policies can be changed freely besides a cooldown.

There are a variety of available policies, suited to different objectives and situations, some with wide-reaching edicts which can substantially change the gameplay in the Japanese islands. For example, rulers in the empire of Japan are not able to freely declare external wars, representing the general lack of ambition for conquest besides extending the northern frontier for most of our period. However, by implementing the Imperial Expansion policy, the usual inter-realm casus bellis available elsewhere may be unlocked, along with a reduction to the cost of Mercenaries and Men-at-Arms.

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[The Imperial Policies law window, art and vassal approval requirements are work in progress!]

Other Policies change the balance between government types in Japan, or provide simple situational benefits at an opportunity cost.

Conversely, if Japan finds itself under true threat from an external invasion, the Defence Mobilization policy will become available, providing an extra edge in Advantage and allowing Ritusryō rulers access to the usually Sōryō-limited Mounted Samurai horse archer Men-at-Arms.

House Aspirations

Each House in Japan has an Aspiration, similar to the House Powers of Byzantium, representing the character and goals of the family as a whole. Each Aspiration has several Levels, each granting new boons. The House Head may spend Prestige to increase the Level of their current Aspiration or change its Type, starting from the lowest Level once again when changing Type.

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[The House Aspiration window, art very much work in progress!]

Each type of Aspiration is focused on a different area, with some more suited to certain government types than other; Service grants bonuses to Governor Efficiency and Candidate Score, and is a good pick for those who wish to climb the bureaucratic ranks and serve emperor; Ceremony grants bonuses to Prestige and Renown generation, a sure choice for the noblest of families; Strength improves Men-at-Arms and martial skill, ensuring dominance on the battlefield.

Beyond the bonuses granted, the Aspiration a House chooses will also determine their political goals to a certain extent, and is a driving force in another new feature, House Blocs, which I will touch on a little later.

House Relations

Our free patch accompanying All Under Heaven includes another family-oriented mechanic, the House Relation. These work similar to character relations like Rivals and Friends, but are between two Houses rather than two Characters.

Now, whenever a friendly or hostile action is taken between Houses within the same Realm or similar rank, such as declaring wars or arranging marriages, the Relation between the two Houses will increase or decrease.

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[Example of a House Relation and the levels, art work in progress!]

There is a spectrum of 7 levels, from Feud to Amity, with each rank towards the extremes modifying the Opinion of all House members to members of the other House. In addition, each level grants other bonuses or modifiers to standard gameplay when interacting with the other House, such as allowing the free negotiation of Alliances, or reducing the costs of all Wars.

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[Work-in-progress image of the work-in-progress House Relation history window. It's a work in progress.]

This change allows inter-generational disputes and collaborations between families to persist more organically, adding another layer of reactivity to the world. Like Character Memories, the reasons for changes over time are tracked, and can be similarly browsed to get a picture of how a relationship has developed over time.

Blocs

With the fragmented political map inside Japan, we wanted a better way to depict the various political groups, and a way to allow them to defend each other without traditional Alliances, maintaining the fragile peace that so often prevailed.

House Blocs are our solution, and work similarly to the Confederations added in Khans of the Steppe, but with Houses as members rather than Characters. A Leading House acts as the main decision-maker of the Bloc, with other Houses considered to be their willing cooperators. The House Head of the Leading House gets to decide which Houses are allowed entry to the Bloc, and may also expel other member Houses at will.

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[The House Bloc window, still very work in progress]

Each House Bloc has a Cohesion value, with additional bonuses for all members unlocked for keeping this value high. Cohesion is based on the number and governments of member Houses, whether their House Aspiration matches that of the Leading House, and the Relations between its member Houses.

The Aspiration of the Leading House acts as a sort of defining principle of the Bloc; a Service orientated Bloc will naturally represent Ritsuryō interests, while a Strength focused Bloc seeks to expand military power. The Aspiration of a House is not generally limited by their government type, and various combinations are possible. Generally multiple Blocs led by Houses of the same Aspiration type are not common, with interests coalescing around the most able leadership.

Crucially, Bloc members will automatically join the Factions of the House Head of their Bloc’s Leading House, increase their succession score for Kampaku (if they are Ritsuryō), and also join in their defensive wars, including Tyranny wars started by attempts at Imprisonment or Revocation. This makes challenging a Bloc something to consider carefully, and any wars that do occur are far more impactful than they would be if Japanese vassals were merely isolated county-tier rulers with scattered alliances.

In addition, acquiring governorships for members of Houses within your Bloc, be they your own or others, can directly aid in strengthening your Factions and succession score or preventing attacks to your position, while being without a Bloc leaves you worryingly exposed to your enemies.

The Rise of the Bushi

As the Heian era wore on, many noble families, frustrated by the fierce competition for appointments with the Fujiwara, despaired of ever climbing the bureaucratic ranks, and instead left the capital, establishing manors in the provinces. Far from the disinterested aristocrats of the capital, the power of these families eventually grew to the point they ruled de facto as a hereditary local nobility.

We represent this by allowing Ritsuryō rulers to establish a held appointment as a fief, switching their government type to Sōryō. This is considered a crime by the Kampaku, and all Ritsuryō governors are able to use a casus belli which returns the title. However, Sōryō rulers pack more of a punch than the bureaucrats, with access to the Mounted Samurai horse archer Men-at-Arms type. In addition, Sōryō rulers will generally band together to defend themselves, making resisting their spread a less simple proposition.

By our last start date almost all of Japan was effectively beyond the reach of the Ritsuryō apparatus, instead now dominated by the rising bushi families, most notably the Taira and Minamoto houses.

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[The political situation of Japan in 1178]

By 1178, the head of the Kanmu Taira, Kiyomori, had effectively supplanted the power of the Fujiwara, ruling as a de facto dictator in a manner which would ultimately come to be known as a Shōgun. Just two years after our last bookmark, the Minamoto houses resisted the overwhelming Taira domination in the Genpei, or Minamoto-Taira, war, with their leader Yoritomo ultimately wiping out the Taira and establishing the first true shogunate in Kamakura.




The Three Kingdoms

Like Japan, the Korean peninsula occupies an interesting position as a heavily Chinese-influenced region, with its own deep cultural and political history. Though it is at greater exposure to invasion from the various states and tribes which lay to its north, it is a fairly developed mountainous region, and any threats will struggle to gain a foothold as long as Korea remains united.

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[Kingdom of Goryeo in 1066, character art, coats of arms, and map are work in progress]

By our earliest start date, the Gim dynasty of the Unified Kingdom of Silla in the east had long-subdued its main rivals, the kingdoms of Baekje in the south and Goguryeo in the north-west. The struggle between these three states, known as the Later Three Kingdoms or Husamguk, had raged for centuries, with Silla ultimately emerging victorious. Further north, the kingdom of Balhae, or Bóhǎi, straddles the hinterland between China, Korea, and the Jurchen tribes.

However, this status quo would not last long; a resurgent Goguryeo aristocracy under the Wang dynasty would ultimately overthrow Silla, establishing the Unified Kingdom of Goryeo based in Gaeseong, ruling the entire peninsula until the establishment of the Joseon dynasty in the late 14th century. Meanwhile, soon after Silla fell, Balhae was conquered by Khitan nomads, who would later establish the Chinese-influenced state of Great Liao.

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[Unified Silla in 867 and the Unite the Husamguk decision, art is work in progress]

We represent the unification of the Later Three Kingdoms via a special decision, Unify the Husamguk, which can be taken by any ruler who holds at least one of the kingdoms and has taken over the entire peninsula in a dominant position. This decision destroys the old kingdom titles and creates an empire-tier Unified Kingdom title, which may be named Samhan or Goryeo based on the culture of the unifier. This is the only way for a Korean culture ruler to form the Korean empire-tier title.

This decision also creates the Yongsun Throne, a special Primogeniture kingdom-tier titular title similar to the Chrysanthemum Throne of Japan. The name of this title may also vary based on the culture of the decision taker, with Yongsun, or Dragon, deriving from the legend of King Taejo the Great’s draconic heritage, the historical founder of Goryeo. In addition, the decision increases cultural acceptance between your culture and the other Korean cultures, making it easier to create a new Hybridized Korean culture, uniting the Silla, Baekje, and Goguryeo peoples.

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[Screenshot of the Unified Kingdom of Goryeo in 1178, art and map are work in progress]

The new Unified Kingdom title also gains a unique Acclamation-style succession law, which is weighted towards the ruling Yongsun Throne dynasty. This leaves open the historical possibility of a powerful family taking control of the state from the royalty, as happened by our latest start date with the rise of the military dictators, or Banju, beginning with Yi Ui-bang and Jeong Jung-bu, leaving the royal Wang dynasty in a ceremonial position similar to the Yamato family.

Meritocratic Government

Along with the Korean kingdoms, the kingdoms of Dai Viet, Balhae, and the Liao and Jin states will use a form of government similar to the Chinese Celestial Government, known as Meritocratic. This government type represents the largely administrative states heavily influenced by China due to proximity, interference, or their aspiration to claim the Mandate of Heaven as a conqueror.

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[Map of governments in East Asia in 1178]

Meritocratic governments retain the Noble Families, Estates, Merit, and Examinations of the Celestial government type, promoting their bureaucrats to governorships via a similar system, but may not hold Imperial Examinations of the highest tier. When other forms of government transition into administrative via decision, if they are near to Celestial China they tend to adopt Meritocratic rather than the standard Administrative type.




Map Corner

Let’s conclude with a little look at the current map, all of which is of course subject to change based on feedback and should be taken with a pinch of salt. Let’s start with the de jure title structures of the far east.

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[De jure Empire mapmode]

As you can see, Japan does not have de jure rights to the north of Honshū at game start, given the ongoing campaigns against the Emishi tribes and that part of Japan being the least integrated into the bureaucracy. Instead the kingdom of Hitakami, or Michinoku if ruled by Japan, is a de jure part of the empire of Amur, along with the islands of Sahaliyan and Hokkaidō in the kingdom of Aynumosir. On the mainland, the empire of Samhan, or Goryeo, is bordered by the empire of Andong, composed of Balhae and its environs.

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[De jure Kingdom mapmode]

Here we can see the internal kingdoms of Japan, made up of Tsukushi covering the island of Kyūshū, Yamato covering western Honshū and Shikoku, and Azuma covering most of eastern Honshū . On the mainland, Samhan is divided between its three constituent kingdoms of Goguryeo, Baekje, and Silla.

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[De jure Duchy mapmode]

As for duchies, Japan is split into regional administrative divisions based on the Gokishichidō circuits. As Ritsuryō rulers cannot create duchies, they will mostly be formed by powerful Sōryō lords, who will use their House names. The duchies of Samhan are based on the Mok administrative divisions of the kingdom of Goryeo. To the north, Balhae is split into its administrative divisions, while other areas are based on the dominant tribes of those areas.

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[Culture mapmode in 867]

Our cultures are still a work in progress, but broadly Japan is mostly united under the Yamato culture, while the cultures of Korea’s Later Three Kingdoms are yet to be united in the Goryeo culture present by 1066. To the north, the Balhae culture is a hybrid of Goguryeo and Mohe.

Our faith map is about to undergo a large overhaul, so I will hold off on that one this week!



That wraps up our topics for today, I hope you enjoyed this early look at Japan and Korea. Your thoughts and feedback are most welcome, and I’ll do my best to answer your questions below!
 
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Empire is small beans as of this expansion. Hegemonies are now the apex predators. Vietnam and Korea being Empires still makes them second rate compared to China.
Alright, I just don't want empire-tier titles to become devalued. If that's the case, then Western titles would also need to be reworked on a large scale. As far as I know, there are only three or four Hegemonies right now? So I think it would be better to remain cautious when deciding what qualifies as an empire.
 
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Alright, I just don't want empire-tier titles to become devalued. If that's the case, then Western titles would also need to be reworked on a large scale. As far as I know, there are only three or four Hegemonies right now? So I think it would be better to remain cautious when deciding what qualifies as an empire.
That ship sailed a long long time ago I'm afraid. Korea and Japan make more sense as empires than Ajuraan, West-Slavia, or the Baltic Empire. Heck I think they're both more deserving of the title than Italia in terms of population density and historical significance.
 
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Alright, I just don't want empire-tier titles to become devalued. If that's the case, then Western titles would also need to be reworked on a large scale. As far as I know, there are only three or four Hegemonies right now? So I think it would be better to remain cautious when deciding what qualifies as an empire.
Here's the thing, though: caution is not needed at all. The way the map is set up, every kingdom has to belong to an empire. If Korea isn't its own empire, it has to belong to someone else's empire which is much, much worse as a solution.
 
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Meritocracy should also be a mix of feudal and Bureaucracy like Japan. For example, Dai Viet was still dominated by feudalism until 15th century; Dali and Korea was also not 100% Bureaucracy.
 
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Meritocracy should also be a mix of feudal and Bureaucracy like Japan. For example, Dai Viet was still dominated by feudalism until 15th century; Dali and Korea was also not 100% Bureaucracy.
I kind of agree. Silla was really more feudal than not, and the landed aristocracy was potent all through Korea's history in a way my understanding is they were not in China. I think something closer to Japan's breakdown of the two actually models all the non-Chinese kingdoms decently.
 
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I've some doubts about the correctness of the last (culture) map (867). According to this map, there were ainu in southern Sakhalin already in IX century. This detail doesn't quite fit the accepted view in science. Of particular interest here is the information provided by Russian Sakhalin researchers and Japanese Hokkaido researchers.
According to the last archaelogical studies (A. A. Vasilevsky, I. G. Markov), ainu archaelogical culture began its spread in southern Sakhalin only in the XIII century. This point of view is supported by Chinese chronicles: according to the Yuanshi chronicle, the Ku-i (Ainu according to A. M. Sokolov) penetrated Sakhalin in the XIII century.
Even if we assume that the ‘Ainu’ on the map are of the Satsumon culture, this culture was not as widespread on Sakhalin as it is shown there.

However, the majority of the population of Sakhalin at that time was likely to be indigenous Oroks and Nivkhs.
 
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Meritocracy should also be a mix of feudal and Bureaucracy like Japan. For example, Dai Viet was still dominated by feudalism until 15th century; Dali and Korea was also not 100% Bureaucracy.
Maybe Meritocracy could choose between some specializations to get more diverse game experience?

Liao could have Northen administration specialization to reduce nomad factions and better rule over the steppe.
Jin could have minggan to simulate their tribal organization, for a better rule of tribes around them.
Dali uses mandala related specialization for better performance when expanding in SEA.
Xi Xia, Korea and Dai Viet an aristocracy one to simulate the struggle between a rather weak central government (Compare to China in golden age) and local powerful houses.
And last Chinese warlords, completely focusing on war to forge his own dynasty as soon as possible.
Maybe Kara-Khitai could also be one? It is said they do not grant land to nobles. If they use meritocracy they could use the Liao one.
 
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Please make blocs apart of feudal government and make Nanzhao meritocratic with a bunch of tribal vassals. Regarding estates make the raid estate scheme destroy domicile buildings and if possible make raiding or besieging a county where a domicile is located. Private property should be more fragile than public works. It’s also for game balancing
Curios which part do you disagree with
 
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Bloc shouldn't be part of feudal system as in Europe seldom are such blocs formed by the same dynasty.
And, the bloc is used to escalate war between vassals, not war between vassal and liege.
Ahh I think I wrote the wrong system I meant the house relation. Sorry my bad. I agree with you. What are you’re feelings on estates
 
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Bloc shouldn't be part of feudal system as in Europe seldom are such blocs formed by the same dynasty.
And, the bloc is used to escalate war between vassals, not war between vassal and liege.
I think they figure into the wars with Liege as well? I mean, it was mentioned that they would join tyranny wars etc. ...

That said: I generally agree with the sentiment. The House Bloc presumes a level of House unity ("I will ally with my Rival brother I have claims on rather than my friends...) that may not always be the case.

Though now that I typed that: maybe they could fit in with the Clan government assuming that the Houses would have a necessary level of House Unity? It would kinda fit thematically.
 
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Because using English words to describe this problem is somewhat inaccurate, I would like to ask you in this way. I am not sure if it is feasible:

I have a 質問 . Can 官位 存在 without 官職?
Because when 私 見 大河 dramas 去年 ,私 発見 that the 父 of the 紫式部 have a 官位 as 從五位 even when he don't have 官職
That’s a very good question!
Yes, as you pointed out, in Japan it was indeed possible for someone to hold a court rank (位階) without holding an official post (官職).

In contrast to the Chinese system, where one’s rank was primarily determined by their office, the Japanese imperial court system granted rank (位階) first, and then assigned official posts in accordance with that rank. This principle is known as the "Kan'i-sōtōsei (官位相当制)" — the system of corresponding rank and office.

As a result, there were cases where individuals held a rank but, due to various circumstances, were not appointed to any post.
This state was known as "San'i (散位)", meaning a person who holds a court rank but no official position.
 
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Ahh I think I wrote the wrong system I meant the house relation. Sorry my bad. I agree with you. What are you’re feelings on estates
That's a good idea from my point of view. But I myself seldom form feuds or raid estates.
In fact I hope we could have some "frame" scheme in administritive realms to make the emperor my opponent's rival. That would bring more variables to game.
 
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That's a good idea from my point of view. But I myself seldom form feuds or raid estates.
In fact I hope we could have some "frame" scheme in administritive realms to make the emperor my opponent's rival. That would bring more variables to game.
I really don’t use the raid estate scheme much my self but I think it might need a buff so people will use it more. I also think raiding or besieging a county where a domicile is located should have a chance of destroying buildings located there. You don’t get punished for not moving your domicile even if has been besieged down and is an active warzone
 
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That’s a very good question!
Yes, as you pointed out, in Japan it was indeed possible for someone to hold a court rank (位階) without holding an official post (官職).

In contrast to the Chinese system, where one’s rank was primarily determined by their office, the Japanese imperial court system granted rank (位階) first, and then assigned official posts in accordance with that rank. This principle is known as the "Kan'i-sōtōsei (官位相当制)" — the system of corresponding rank and office.

As a result, there were cases where individuals held a rank but, due to various circumstances, were not appointed to any post.
This state was known as "San'i (散位)", meaning a person who holds a court rank but no official position.
Thank you for answering the question that has puzzled me for a year. wwwwwww
 
I mean, I wish you could pull a Soga no Iruka (or Heiji rebellion), and kill / abduct the families of imperial princelings we don't like - and prune imperial family of people that would oppose kampaku domination.

That said, I feel that Raids in its current forms are just too untargeted and low impact for the time and effort they take. Yeah, I can kill some family of Byzantine governor, but why should I? I mean, it doesn't exactly remove governors from power, and only very seldom do their families manage to actually gain power... so it feels like I can just go after the governors themselves.

Hopefully with bonuses to kampaku eligibility for intermarriage terrorizing imperial household may actually be worth it...
 
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That’s a very good question!
Yes, as you pointed out, in Japan it was indeed possible for someone to hold a court rank (位階) without holding an official post (官職).

In contrast to the Chinese system, where one’s rank was primarily determined by their office, the Japanese imperial court system granted rank (位階) first, and then assigned official posts in accordance with that rank. This principle is known as the "Kan'i-sōtōsei (官位相当制)" — the system of corresponding rank and office.

As a result, there were cases where individuals held a rank but, due to various circumstances, were not appointed to any post.
This state was known as "San'i (散位)", meaning a person who holds a court rank but no official position.
Funny thing is that it sounds more like CK3 Chinese Merit system works (with the Merit - your rank - granting you eligibility for higher-tier titles, but doesn't guaranteeing you corresponding tier) than how CK3 Japanese system works.
 
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Does the realm end up with a bunch of noble houses that have domiciles but no realistic way to become landed or otherwise rise to power?
I think one way to prevent that is to introduce a bureaucratic court in Heian‑kyo that reflects the era’s palace politics.
It would also make sense to let each kuni hold multiple titles, showing the layered, nested complexity of land ownership under the Ritsuryo system, the Soryo system, or even a theocratic regime.
 
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Funny thing is that it sounds more like CK3 Chinese Merit system works (with the Merit - your rank - granting you eligibility for higher-tier titles, but doesn't guaranteeing you corresponding tier) than how CK3 Japanese system works.
Unlike China, Japan is a noble society where advancing in rank does not depend on Merit or Examinations but on your family background, your seniority and your influence. It might be similar to how things worked in China in the fourth century.
 
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