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Dev Diary #37: The Hero Rework

Greetings Godir and Mortal alike, I am Thomas Schuiten, Designer at Triumph, and today i finally get to show you the greatest post-release rework Triumph has ever done; The Hero Rework!

With the upcoming release of Ways of War on November 5th, we are as always including a free update, Tiger Update, which will strengthen the base game, this time focusing on Heroes, Governance and Ambition!

Likewise this too, is a story of Heroes, (attempted) Governance and certainly a lot of Ambition, so grab your astral dew, get your reading glasses out and join me as I attempt to explain it all!

Behold, the behemoth.

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This board is where I compiled all the skills and designed the classes, origins, affinity skills etc. You will see the relevant places more up close further down, rest assured there is (some) order in this chaos!

The Problems​

Heroes as they were at release were functional, adaptable and easy to expand upon. The open selection system has served Age of Wonders well in the past, but some of the need for that adaptability was lessened with the introduction of the Item Forge and with Tiger Patch a much smarter item reward system. However, much more importantly for our story today, it brought with it several problems, problems that could not easily be solved.

To start off the rework i collected feedback and combined it with our own observations to make a list of the problems we would seek to tackle with the new design, i have added in italics a quick summary of what part of the new design ended up addressing that point:

  • Homogenization of heroes
    • All heroes have access to the same set of skills and can swap weapons at any time, contributing to a lack of identity.
  • Skill category balance
    • Battle mage is considered weak compared to Warfare, and Support is very concentrated in a select few powerful effects.
  • Signature skills
    • Randomization makes it hard to build character with these
    • Small pool makes builds quite homogenous in terms of signature skills
    • Internal balance is off and causes certain signatures to never be taken
    • Often chosen based on the affinity reward on rulers
  • Hero Stacking
    • Heroes are meant as army leaders but are often easily specialized into being powerful combat units instead leading to them having less identity than hoped.
  • Flavor / Storytelling themes
    • Heroes’ Identity is entirely carried by the background trait, which simply does not do enough on its own.

The Solutions​

No single change could cover all of the outlined problems in one go, but we could be efficient with the design and cover multiple bases with each change. Here I will give a basic outline of the changes before going into depth in their own sections.

The major changes can be broken down into the following areas: Hero Advancement, Governance and Narrative.

Hero Advancement​

Heroes will gain a set of Skill Trees from which they can pick their skills whenever they level up. The skill trees available to the hero will depend on 3 sources: Origin, Class and Signature Skills.
Each source adds a tree of options to that the hero may choose their skills from as they gain levels.

Origin would express the hero’s well… origin, it is what they are. This is meant to separate a Mortal Champion from a Dragon Lord. This meant that Wizard Kings and Mortal Champions would finally have their own unique skill set available only to them.

Class will express a heroes’ talents, each has a general direction but allow for further specialization towards particular roles within it. A Defender for example is hardy and dependable, but can lean into the role of an Infantry polearm hero or a shield that defends those around them!

Signature Skills are a big change from the past, these will now instead generally express the influence of the Empire’s Affinity upon the hero, rather than being randomized and for rulers doing the opposite. The hero will choose signature skills from options based on the empire’s affinity, each granting a boost to the army they lead and giving new hero skill options that fit that affinity!

Thanks to the skill tree structure combined with the class system we can really up the power level and specificity of hero skills, where previously having a hero gain a barrage attack would have a whole host of problems such as them not wielding the correct weapon, the ability not scaling as the game progresses and it being yet another ability on a hero that can get too many already, now it can be a unique choice that later skills can build upon to further empower it in unique ways and let it remain a valid choice for use in combat!

Governance​

Heroes will each gain a Governance Trait, this determines the effects they have on their Governed City. This replaces the old hero affinity based income bonus with a more clear and noticeable effect. These Governance traits would scale as the game progresses and the hero gains Renown.

Narrative​

Heroes will now each have Ambitions, goals they seek to achieve, granting them Renown that improves their Governance effects. These Ambitions give a narrative expression of what the Hero personally wants, and give a unique hero skill when the major ambition is completed.


What is a Hero now?​

As an overview, a Hero in the new system is made up of 3 factors:
  • Their Class, which grants access to the largest “main” skill tree, the class of rulers is determined by their loadout choice.
    • Defender, defensive, melee only, supportive and hard to kill.
    • Warrior, offensive, melee only, high damage and fast.
    • Mage, magic damage at range, area of effect and control through status effects.
    • Ritualist, (magical) support, buffing allies, healing and summoning.
    • Ranger, pure offensive, ranged damage, skirmishing, disruptive.
  • Their Origin, which grants them a small skill tree with unique options.
    • Mortal Champion
      • Specialized in Army leadership
    • Wizard King
      • Specialized in Spellcasting
    • Dragon Lord (Dragon Dawn)
      • Specialized in unique Combat skills
    • Eldritch Sovereign (Eldritch Realms)
      • Specialized in strategic rituals and control
  • Their Signature Skills, chosen at milestone levels (4, 8, 12, 16)
    • For Champions and Wizard Kings these became Affinity Dedications
      • Heroes can pick affinity dedications that their empire has the correct affinity for.
        • They do not, themselves, grant Affinity.
      • Each Affinity Dedication gives an Army Leadership bonus
      • Each Affinity Dedication grants 2 skill options that can be used to support tome builds of that affinity.
    • For Dragon Lords(Dragon Dawn) they gained unique Signature skill choices for the levels where they lacked them.
      • Dragon Lord heroes still gain access to the 2 affinity skill options, similar to Champions and Wizard Kings.
      • Dragon Lord Signature skills do not have affinity requirements.
    • For Eldritch Sovereigns(Eldritch Realms) they retained their Signature skills as they were, though they also no longer grant affinity.
      • Eldritch Sovereign Signature skills do not have affinity requirements

There is a lot of detail to go into here so I will go step by step, starting with the largest component of a Hero: Classes.

Classes​

When I began exploring the class concept I set a ground rule that each class should be able to be built to fill roughly two different “Roles”, this would help ensure the system isn't too restrictive and allow for creative builds within it.

The first step was identifying player fantasies for their heroes, what did players want their heroes to be? What could already be done and how? And what could not be done yet, and why not?

Having created what is effectively a pile of dorky fantasies, I grouped them based on the rough role they would have in our combat system. A knight would for example be a Shock Unit in combat, so whichever class was going to contain the Shock unit role would have to support Knight as a fantasy, while also accounting for the charging barbarian with a greataxe.

I will go over each class, what fantasies they were meant to embody, how they try to do so and maybe some interesting tidbits here and there too!

Defender​


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Expected Role(s): Polearm, Shield
Strengths: High defenses, high health, strong options for Retaliations and defending others.
Weaknesses: No Ranged attacks, low damage output
Weapons: Polearm, One Handed Melee (and shield)

The Defender was the first class I designed the content for, for the first iteration we tried to simply re-use existing skills for this. I knew from the initial design this would be unlikely to hold up all the way until release but it gave us a good guideline for what may work and let us test the system in its simplest form.

Like most Class skill trees I divided it roughly into 3 sections, a center section with generalist skills where most stat increases can be found, and the two sides, each hosting skills more suited to a particular specialization the class is capable of. In the Defender’s case these were “Infantry” and “Shield”.
The Infantry side specializes in retaliations and is more individual, leaning into the polearm role. While the Shield side specializes in the use of defense mode and holding formation with allies.

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First iteration of the Warrior skill tree, note the central column contains primarily stat improvements while the sides had all the juicy stuff in this version.

This design worked as intended and proved the concept could work, but it lacked the opportunity for creativity I wanted and feedback from testing showed it was definitely noticeable. Additionally it was simply too passive and lacked particularly exciting abilities that set the hero apart.
The creativity issue is visible in the “columns” formed in this design, it meant that often picking 1 skill just locked you in to picking the ones below it, which reduces the number of variants you could make within the tree significantly.

So after we got the other classes functional I had another go at the Defender with the aim to improve build options within it and allow for much more creative use of the skills. I also added more active abilities since the original version lacked these quite severely.

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Current (final) version of Defender, Note that there is much more crossover between the sections and several new skills to help fill out the roster.

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And here it is in game, as demonstrated on my Dragon Lord who is going hard into their Shield Defense!

There we go, that is a nice web of chaos! In the final iteration I allowed for much more connectivity between the branches which should allow for more unconventional builds. I also added three active abilities, one for each “type” of Defender;

A Pushing attack for defenders focused on damage, with specialization options to make it more defensive for those who want to use it while stuck in, or more aggressive for initiating combat or shifting the frontline!

Taunt is an obvious classic that was simply lacking in the first version, and Stunning bash fills the role of a shield bash, letting the hero contribute directly to the battle while still entering their empowered defense mode.

Warrior​

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Expected Role(s): Shock, Fighter (Damage)
Strengths: High damage, High mobility, individual unit power
Weaknesses: No Ranged attacks, low defense and resistance, no support ability
Weapons: Great Weapons, Polearms, One Handed Melee (and shield).

Warrior covers a lot of separate themes, the noble knight and the unstoppable barbarian both should be formed out of its components. It focuses a lot on the power of the hero themselves, eschewing any and all support abilities. They can be surprisingly hard to truly take down thanks to their access to health and self healing in combat. They always risk being focused down on their own however, lacking the access to Defense and Resistance that the Defender has.

The Warrior is subdivided into “Shock Trooper” on the left which specializes in enhancing charge attacks and the “Berserker” on the right side which excels in sustained combat and repeating attacks.

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The old Warrior skill tree, very similar in setup to that of the first Defender.

Being designed second, this initial design had similar issues to the Defender’s first version, but had an even more extreme issue of segmentation, where players would pick columns instead of individual skills, which led to much less build variety than was acceptable or intended. This tree too, got a big pass once the others were completed, adding more active skills and rearranging it significantly.

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Ah, now we are cooking, cooking spaghetti that is, but the tasty, enjoyable kind! Much more interconnectivity between the skills to explore, letting the hero be built in much more varied ways than before.

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And here it is in game, this particular warrior is aiming for a build around an aggressive charge, quickly slaying their opponent with one swift strike before using second wind to recover and reposition!

The warrior, just like the defender, lacked active skills in their first iteration which was addressed here, giving them a bit more flash.

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Second wind in particular is worth highlighting, as it is part of the “Streamlining” I have tried to do with hero abilities to address the ability bloat. Second Wind is a mashup of the old Sprint ability and Bloodlust (Barbarian culture), the effect of sprint was lessened a bit to move it out of the territory of the Skirmishers and make it a more versatile tool for warriors, the extra movement and slippery lets the hero lash out at a nearby enemy while the healing effect gain lets them stay in the fight longer.

The attempt to tackle hero ability bloat is more clearly exemplified in the next class, the Mage.

Mage​


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Expected Role(s): Battlemage
Strengths: Magic damage, Area of effect, Range, afflictions
Weaknesses: No melee, low Defense and Health
Weapons: Orbs, Staves

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Final version of the Mage Skill Tree

Mage came third, and is a much more “specific” concept, spellcasting as a unit role existed before the hero rework, but they were one-off abilities that scale poorly as the game progressed. I wanted to strengthen the feel of a hero being a “Mage” by giving the unit abilities that they can then modify through their skill choices.

Mage is roughly divided into “Devastator” and “Warlock”, with the devastator side granting AoE magic abilities and focusing on damage dealing while the warlock side specializes in status effects and control.

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The designer spaghett version

The Mage Skill tree is roughly built around 2 defining skills, the Evocation and the Curse, with specialization building upon those skills.

Evocations were in the game before, as separate abilities that did not scale well as the game progressed. Now the hero can choose to specialize in a Fire Area of Effect Evocation or a chain targeting Lightning Evocation. Each can then be further specialized, letting them focus on damage, disruption or even spreading like wildfire!

The curse ability is at its base a single target debuff that deals frost damage, it can be built to be even more powerful as a frost cure or as a plague inflicting AoE.

Ritualist​

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Expected Role(s): Support
Strengths: Support, Summons, Healing
Weaknesses: No melee, weak defenses, low damage
Weapons: Staves, Orbs

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The final in-game version of the Ritualist skill tree, this particular hero focusing on area of effect and a druidic theme.

Ritualist is a particularly unique class, having to cover a wide set of themes and mechanics. At its most basic level it is divided into a Healing/support and summoning. But each of these has many flavors to cover.

Ritualist is the most ability heavy of all the classes, which leads to a rather unique setup compared to the other classes.

The Restore skill is at the core of the class, unifying the many heal abilities into a single powerful ability that can be built to be single target and extremely potent (and even revive!), area of effect or even quick to cast but weaker.

Additionally this class can lean into themes such as Druidry through the Conjure Wildgrowth skills, summoning through the Spirit Summoning skills and Necromancy through the raise undead skills!

There is much ground to cover in this class, but the skills were picked based on mechanical variance. Of course one would want summons for any specific unit type they happen to be building for but this is handled through other sources instead, such as hero items and the Affinity hero skills gained through dedicating the hero to the Nature affinity.

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The ritualist skill tree design, note it is more segmented than others due to the many active abilities contained in the class.

Ranger​


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Expected Role(s): Ranged, Skirmisher
Strengths: High (ranged) Damage, Critical strikes, versatile
Weaknesses: Weaker defenses, lacking Resistance
Weapons: Ranged Weapons, Dual (skirmisher) weapons

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In-game final version of the Ranger skill tree, this hero is functioning as a skirmisher, using Snapshot as an opener before diving into melee where they can finish the target off.

Ranger was a pain in the butt to design, Age of Wonders 4 did not feature many hero skills that actually fit with the ranged role appropriately, and for skirmishing there was even less. Thus the Ranger class had from its first iteration, the most new skills out of them all. Having practically all of it made anew to begin with.

The Ranger has, similar to the Mage, a choice of defining ability on the left side of its tree. Scatter shot gives an area of effect option to the usually single target focused role of ranged attackers, while True shot lets one make a true “sniper”. Snapshot lets the hero be built as a much more mobile unit, either for rangers who want to have a backup when forced to move, or rangers who want to add extra utility to their skirmishing!

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The Ranger tree, a maze of delirium that nearly drove Tom Bird to madness… well, more of it anyway.

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New item forge options!

To support the skirmishing role now being an option for heroes, we added additional skirmisher weapons to the item forge and as starting options for the Feudal, Dark and High cultures. Not everyone wants to be slinging magelock pistols after all!


Origins​

Origins would be the second component that grants a hero more identity, this primarily affects rulers since heroes are usually mortals, unless they join from the Pantheon!

Each Origin has its own “niche” for which it provides skills the hero can choose to specialize further in. They are relatively small, intended to supplement the hero's role as provided by their class rather than supplant it.

Mortal Champions​

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Champions have suffered a bit as we expanded on AoW4 and added more ruler types to the game. They did not have too much to set them apart from those ruler types. So with the rework we gave them an identity of their own: Commanders.

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The Champion was quite unfocused before, their ruler benefits have been simplified to be less economy focused and lean into the trope of the mortal hero.

Champion rulers now start with the command ability (veterans may remember this as “Spur to Action”), this ability lets them order another unit to move again at the expense of their own movement and can be upgraded as well.

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The Mortal Champion Origin skill tree, notice it is quite wide rather than deep, this is the general norm for Origin skill trees as they are intended to be more supplemental than the Class tree.

Besides the command ability, champion origin rulers have access to other skills which boost their army both tactically and strategically. Though investing in these skills may mean forgoing potential personal power in their class or through the affinity hero skills!


Champions as Heroes
All heroes found in the game that do not come from the pantheon, are Mortal Champions. With this rework we have set them apart a little from their ruler counterparts, heroes have their own version of the champion origin tree, one notably lacking access to the Command skill. Regardless they can still specialize between army leadership and their class just the same!

Wizard Kings​

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Just as the champion looked less and less appealing as the game grew, the wizard king similarly had some trouble truly standing apart from their mortal counterpart. Overchannel was an iconic ability, but had all of its power condensed into it from the start. To bring the Wizard king more in line with the other ruler types and allow for more build variety in their theme, the Overchannel ability was reworked into Channeling Ritual.

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Channeling ritual, like Command for the mortal champions, is a starting ability, one that can be specialized into a quickened (but only useable once per combat) version, or a more defensive ritual, which heals the user and lets them enter defense mode, a potential combo with the Defender or Ritualist classes!

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The Wizard King Origin tree in-game.

Furthermore the Wizard King’s skill tree features skills that grant more casting points, replacing the automatic casting point gain of wizard kings with a more intentional investment on the hero’s part to gain that power.

And lastly a set of skills which let the Wizard King gain strength as spells are cast and add an overcharge effect to particular spells whenever Channeling Ritual is used!

Dragon Lords​

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Big, stompy and terrifying. That is what dragons were meant to be when we introduced them in Dragon Dawn, yet in practice they were found to be easy to focus down, lacking the defense to withstand the damage their larger form attracted. In the end they were often relegated to something more akin to an artillery unit than a monstrous beast of war.

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I decided that during a personal development day I would redesign the Dragon lord signatures, being a bit of a dragon nerd myself, I wanted to address their lacking survivability, the forced transformation and build variety.

Survivability I would address by having each of the dragon’s signature skills grant a stat boost, roughly equivalent to being 1 unit tier higher each time. This means that dragons can now keep up with the survivability of other heroes gaining equipment, without having to invest skill points into merely keeping up.

Dragon Lords have always had unique signature skills, divided into 2 levels, at level 4 they would choose their lesser transformation, and at level 12 they would gain a major transformation that modified their breath weapon. But at level 8 and 16 they shared the same pool as all other heroes did.

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Behold the whole line-up of designs for the Dragon Signature skills.

In order to support the Affinity hero skills and open up build options I aimed to “fill in the gaps” and add 2 more signature skill sets, so that each signature skill choice now had unique options, these are grouped as the following:

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Aspect selection at level 4.

Aspects (level 4 Signature skills) - a powerful stat boost accompanied by a passive effect that reinforces the affinity’s expected role. Order grants adjacent allies resistance, while shadow inflicts weakened for example.

Transformations (level 8 Signature skills) - These once more include the stat boost, but more importantly here the unit type changes are found. If you want to become a Fey dragon, choose the Nature Transformation and grow the wilds on the battlefield as you move!

This is where the major visual variation is now added, so in addition to the 6 affinity transformations there is a 7th option, Primal Transformation, this option grants a hefty stat bonus and Natural Regeneration. But more importantly does not change the Dragon lord’s visuals, letting them be a “pure” dragon. This transformation grants affinity skills just as the others do, though its affinity is based on what affinity the dragon started with.

Breath (level 12 Signature skills) - yet again the hero gains more hit points, but much more importantly this modifies their breath attack. These are streamlined to give a much clearer use case to each breath attack, Purebreath (order) grants the breath attack a heal and cleanse on friendly units, while Rustbreath (Materium) weakens and sunders defenses while cleansing the enemy’s positive effects instead!

Elder (level 16 Signature Skills) - an even bigger stat bonus than the other levels, keeping the dragon lord up to par with heroes who will have gained their armor by now. But more interestingly each affinity option here grants the dragon lord a unique effect, the Elder of Astral skill grants Wind barrier and a unique ability to remove pesky melee units from your dragon’s presence, while the Elder of Chaos grants a damage bonus that grows throughout the battle each time the hero slays an enemy!

Dragon Claws
Dragons have always had their own unique melee weapon in the dragon claws, but now that they can have class roles there were some options lacking. Which provides the perfect opportunity to add some new options here!

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The new Dragon Claw options in the item forge.

There are now three variations of claw weapon: Dragon Claws for sustained repeating damage, Armored Claws for more defense and a powerful defense mode and Warclaws for charging in and crushing your enemies!

Eldritch Sovereign​

The sovereigns were largely untouched, having been a recent addition in Eldritch Realms. A distinguishing feature of theirs is that they have unique extremely powerful abilities gained through their signatures and Origin skill tree. But they do not have the same ties to affinities that the other Origins have, and thus do not gain Affinity hero skill options from their Signatures.

Additionally it is notable that Sovereigns can only be Mages or Ritualists, both leaning into their strengths as magic users.

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Still as manipulative and controlling as ever… do not trust them.

Signature Skills​

The next big item on the block is signature skills, previously these were a small pool of active abilities, when reaching particular milestones the hero would get to pick a signature skill from a list of random options. This had several issues; A lack of control, wildly varying power levels and dilution of the heroes role.

Everyone would always pick the same skills, and particularly the summon abilities were problematic. Thus to put it bluntly, these are no longer the same. Many of these skills have been reworked and used elsewhere.

Affinity Dedications
For Mortal Champions and Wizard Kings, the signature skills take the form of Affinity Dedications. These grant effects that empower the army that the hero leads and unlock a pair of hero skills that support the builds and identity associated with that affinity.

To choose an affinity dedication, the hero must first reach the appropriate level, then the empire must have the appropriate affinity. At level 4, only Initiate dedications may be chosen and only of the affinities the empire has. At level 8 they may choose either Initiate dedications they do not yet have (with the same requirements) or any Adept level dedications their empire has enough affinity for.

At level 12, Master level and lower can be chosen, and lastly at level 16, Paragon or any other level.

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Notice how for level 4, only the Initiate dedications of the empire’s affinities are valid.

This allows for mixing between multiple affinities, if you have a build that uses two very different affinities mechanics that you want to lean into, you can choose to give the hero two initiate dedications, giving access to the relevant skills.

Note that none of the Dedications require a previous one, they are purely restricted by the level and empire affinity. If you wish to skip nature initiate in favor of another affinity, but still want Adept of Nature on level 8 you can do so.

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At level 8, because the hero already has the order initiate dedication, the only valid options are between Adept and Initiate of Chaos.

The affinity dedications are free, which means that as the hero levels they will empower the army they lead, this means that to make optimal use of your heroes should seek to have each lead their own army, setting them apart from the rank-and-file units they lead.

The hero then gains access to 2 additional hero skills based on the affinity dedication taken, Initiate of Nature for example grants Blight Strikes and Pack Leader. Letting the hero specialize to support builds that the empire may be leaning into such as applying poison and decay, or fielding lots and lots of animal units!

The Affinity dedications are divided into 4 levels, Initiate, Adept, Master and Paragon.
Each grants access to 2 new skills, one more offensively oriented and 1 more defensive/utility oriented. Paragon is the exception, granting only a single skill that is universally powerful.

Initiate grants access to build-supporting hero skills, such as the pay-off for attacking burning enemies in chaos, or the leadership buff to animals in nature.

Adept is usually more individual, letting the hero themselves take on the theme more strongly through a passive effect, such as Order’s Incorruptible spirit, which grants a huge boost to the status effect resistance of the hero. While Astral can gain evasion as they are attacked blurring their image.

Master skills are the active abilities, this is where some old favorites like Blink can be found as well as several new abilities such as Awaken Earth.

Paragon Skills are unique in several ways, firstly, while the other 3 levels grant the same (stacking) bonus to the army, the paragon dedications each give their own unique army boost. Paragon of Order for example grants all units in the army Resurgence, letting them all become immortal martyrs to the cause
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Additionally Paragon skills unlock only a single new hero skill option, one that is more universally powerful such as Materium’s Ancient of Earth or Shadow’s “Eternal One”

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Become immortal, eternal king.

Tome Hero Skills
Formerly, tomes granted hero skills, many of those got reused, some did not make it. This has a few reasons, chief among these is the dilution of hero roles through them, and the fact that many were simply “filler” not really supporting their tome’s build in a significant capacity. Instead many of the build supporting skills were, as you could read above, reworked to fit into the affinity hero skills instead. This has the added advantage of not requiring particular tomes to gain the hero skill that supports the playstyle. You do not need to have Tome of souls to get the necromancy supporting hero skill to help with your tome of Necromancy build for example.

There are some that were more difficult than others, notably among these was Cleansing Flame Herald, part of the Tome of Cleansing flame. This is instead a passive gained when the Tome is unlocked, which should feel much nicer.

Art of the Hero Rework​

For a (short) interlude here on the art side of this project I am including a section of Elle and Ana’s write up on the art of the Hero Rework, worry not I will return after the pretty pictures to provide more nerdy insight!

Hi all, Elle here, 2D Artist at Triumph! I’ll be the one to present you with the full “Art of Ways of War” dev diary at a later date, but I wanted to barge into Thomas’ dev diary too so I could share a little bit of background on the art side of the Hero Rework.

Before we bury the old interface permanently, have this very old pre-release mockup as a loving way to remember the admittedly-difficult-to-love listbox layout:

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Image Description: A mockup from September of 2021 (1 year and 8 months before release). Functionally very similar to the Hero Skill list at release, just prior to any polish.

About 6 months after release, we started exploring the idea of organizing these skills differently. Some early but scrapped ideas:

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Image Description: Two images of hero skills sorted by type (warfare/battle magic/support) and level

Note that these mockups did not consider changing the fundamental workings of the hero skills, we just didn’t like the UI visually. But feedback kept coming in about heroes feeling “samey” and lacking identity, so Thomas started cooking. He then approached me with that legendary “what if…”, a “what if” that gave us many sleepless nights but would ultimately become the pride & joy of all of us who worked on it. So let’s catch you up on the new Hero Skill interface, where did we start off and end up?

Well, this was the “what if” that Thomas handed me:

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Image Description: ??? absolute designer mumbo jumbo

It then took probably 4 hours for him to explain this and for me to understand it (having this dev diary would’ve helped …), but after breaking my brain I did two mockups for how we could present this new Hero Skill system to the player:

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Image Description: Hero Skill Tree layout mockup where each tree had a different tab

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Image Description: Hero Skill Tree layout mockup where all three trees are present in one interface, similar to how the final in-game version was set up

As you can probably tell by the final result, we chose the latter in order to minimize clicking between different tabs. As a disclaimer, I’m able to do my mockups pretty easily and freely in photoshop, but getting them functional in-game is a whole different ball game. Simon (gameplay & interface programmer) did an incredible job translating the mockup despite technical and time limitations. We added additional functionality such as mutually exclusive skills, and even got to our stretch goal of incorporating different icons for the active abilities.

I also participated in unintentional intern abuse by assigning the reworked icons to our intern Alex, please give him some love for the monstrous amount of icons he made. Here are the hero skills alone, but most of these also come paired with either ability icons, unit property icons, and/or status effect icons.

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Image Description: Screenshot of our Hero Skill psd

And an additional shoutout to our VFX Artist Ana, who made and reworked an equally monstrous amount of FX to go with this rework. If you think making hundreds of new icons is hard, imagine doing the same for effects that also have a gazillion possible combinations in modularity.

And of course the hero rework also came with the addition of governor bonuses and ambitions, all of which needed UI mockups, implementation, and icons too… but I’ll do plenty of rambling in the upcoming art dev diary so I won’t bore you with the details any further and instead let Thomas take back the reins!

Governance and Renown​


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The new hero panel, note the section on the left displaying all info related to Governance, Renown and the hero’s Ambitions.

Governance has always been a little messy, players could understand that they would assign a hero to govern a city and gain benefits from that, but exactly what and why was not always clear.

Basically each affinity point a hero had granted a tiny uptick in income that added together to a decently substantial amount.

I wanted to add more personality to the heroes, and at the same time make the presence of a governor much more noticeable and meaningful. Thus we concocted the Governance traits, heavily inspired by the governance background traits i’d made in a past update.

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Look who is all grown up!

Governance traits are a new trait given to each hero that determines the effects they grant their governed city, these usually entice a city to specialize in a particular way, leading to more variation in the empire’s cities and a more noticeable impact from the Governor’s rule. Each hero has a random Governance trait, while rulers always have the very generalist Godir Governor trait, which boosts the throne city significantly.

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Shiny new Governor selection UI, note it shows the levels of each Governor as well as the current active effects.

You may have noticed that the Governance trait has levels, these are unlocked by gaining Renown, further empowering the Governing effects of that hero. How do you gain renown you ask? Allow me to enlighten you about:

Ambitions​

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The new ruler ambitions, available for selection in the last step of Faction Creation.

Each hero has Ambitions, completing these ambitions is how they gain Renown and Renown levels. Each Renown level grants their army a slight boost in morale, but most importantly Renown levels determine the benefits gained from the Governance skill!

Ambitions are chosen as a set, rulers may choose them during the creation process while heroes will have a random set of ambitions. Each set contains a Major and Minor ambition

Minor Ambitions are repeatable, short term goals, these are the main source of Renown gain.

Major Ambitions can only be completed once per hero, but grant a much larger reward and unlock a unique skill for the hero that suits the deed they’ve accomplished. A Duelist who manages to slay a ruler in single combat for example gains increased damage and defense against heroes!

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This hero has managed to complete her major ambition, giving her a unique trait to boost her army’s aggression.

Should you end up with a hero whose ambitions you are unable to complete, after a set period of time an event will occur where you may choose to have them chase a different ambition instead, letting you continue their progress another way instead!

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This one is one of my personal favorites, it was suggested by Lucas who did the code support for this particular system. With minor adjustments we put it in, it creates a really enjoyable dynamic where one of your heroes becomes the “Right hand” of your ruler.

Outro​

The Hero Rework is an enormous undertaking, representing the largest rework of anything Triumph has ever done to a game post-release. Not just design and implementation, but code support by several of our famed Codir, with special thanks to Simon and Lucas, and also art, where Alex has soldiered through remaking every single hero skill and hero ability icon in the game or Ana who gave the hero abilities some much needed love in their visual effects!

So, after a grueling few months of hard work we arrive at the Tiger patch, alongside Ways of War’s release on November 5th this will make your conquest in Age of Wonders 4 even more heroic! I and the rest of Triumph look forward to seeing what you create with these new tools!


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I can't comment on the quality of the changes but props for the rework regardless of its success. I think it's great for developers to completely redo a core system, especially this far into the game's lifecycle. It's a good thing when you can try to fix something that isn't working quite right and not be forced to let it fester while trying to shore it up with tweaks and paid content. All the moreso for it being so difficult to measure if the effort was commercially rewarding.
 
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To me. And to them, obviously. Probably lots of other people, as they clearly collected feedback from the community. This has nothing to do with multiplayer. I don't know why people think that.
They all get the same skills and there's always the same skills that are good to take, depending on what weapon you want to focus on pretty much.
They recognized this is how it works and they've given us more interesting choices to make.

Or are you telling me that you gave your hero an orb and then picked all the melee fighting skills?
Or slightly less stupid, melee weapon focus and then pick one or two magic attacks. As said in the diary, these fall off very quickly later in the game, so always felt a bit useless.
I think people are overreacting to how much freedom is taken away. Most of that freedom wasn't relevant anyway.
not an orb but a greatsword with lightning evocation was what i used before dragon lord which is similar to what i was playing you know a mix of melee and magic if you dont know dragon lord does have a melee weapon and a breath weapon which is magic so previously if i wished i could up both damages, although my complain from the old system is that there were quite lacking in skills from the get go add more skills to choose from and you will have more variety than even the classes can offer
As someone that doesn't play Multiplayer, all the detailed information on the rework sounds like a big wrong shift. Heroes felt generic? To whom? I could customize my heroes for any role I wanted, and as someone else pointed out, you are now restricting our choices to make the game feel more unique? That is saving the tree and killing the forest. Removing options and choice by forcing important gameplay aspects to be restricted to specifc weapons, hero types or backgrounds sounds like digging even deeper into the hole that started with the hero stacking nerf. I don't mind taking steps to disincentivize gameplay that you don't want (even if the Devs shouldn't care how anyone plays the game), but removing choices altogether? That's very demoralizing.

Congratulations on all the work done for the rework, it can be easily seen that a lot of effort, time and dedication went into it. But at no point you thought to ask how your community felt about the changes proposed? You mentioned having feedback about the problems and pains with heroes. But was the same done to evaluate the proposed changes? With 850 hours in-game, the only thing I feel reading these changes is that I want to play as much as possible before the update drops because it will completely ruin the experience of AoW4 for me. Removing choices is a very bad take on solving the lack of uniqueness of heroes, and I wish it was discussed more with the community before, because it sounds like a lot of people dislike it.

It is not by chance that so many mods have been created to give players options that are random ingame, like Backgrounds, which will still be a problem with the current system! The rework is massive and it sounds like it doesn't improve the system, it just trades a flawed but limited system with a still flawed but now limiting system, which feels like is trading on sub-optimal things, except one of those is familiar and offers freedom, and the other took a humongous amount of effort and time from the devs, will cost us, and is not improving things.

All in all, as much as I respect the work done by the dev team, artists and designers, it sounds like the rework was not done for the community, but for the desire of how Triumph thinks the game should be played. As the meme on Uno stating rules that were different than how most people played the game, all the proposed rework makes me feel is I wanted to say "thanks Triumph, but we'll take the game from here". It's sad to see so much work result in what feels like a "worse" or "equally flawed" state of the game.
i mean dont know if it was a volcal minority or majority but lots of people have been having complains about it there are even mods that created classes as for me i was happy with it but wanted for it to have more skills from the get go and the tomes adding more suplementary skills
 
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The available Champion class x weapon combinations from the Tiger beta.

Defender: Captain's Axe and Shield
Defender: Lasher's Sword and Shield
Defender: Reaver Halbard (Reaver)
Defender: Spear (Primal)
Defender: Sword and Shield
Defender: Tyrant's Sword and Shield
Defender: Veteran's Pike
Mage: Alignment Orb
Mage: Staff of Necromancy
Ranger: Blowgun (Primal)
Ranger: Bow
Ranger: Crowmaster's Bow
Ranger: Heavy Magelock Rifle (Reaver)
Ranger: Hunter's Crossbow
Ranger: Pistol and Sword (Reaver)
Ranger: Sword and Crossbow
Ranger: Umbral Bow
Ritualist: Alignment Staff
Ritualist: Cryomancer's Staff
Ritualist: Druid's Staff
Ritualist: Staff of the X (Primal)
Ritualist: Umbral Staff
Warrior: Berserker's Greataxe
Warrior: Bladed Mace (Mystic)
Warrior: Earthshaker's Hammer
Warrior: Greataxe (Barbarian/Primal/Wizard King)
Warrior: Greathammer (Industrious)
Warrior: Greatsword (Feudal)
Warrior: Lance
Warrior: Lance of Glory
Warrior: Martial Cestus
Warrior: Slayer Sword
Warrior: Umbral Greataxe

There's no Warrior: Sword and Shield option. Neither is there a Ranger: Axe and Blowgun for Primal or a Ranger: Javelin for Barbarians.

Other observations, weapon abilities are now tied to the weapon proper and not the hero, so you can no longer "abuse" (It was for thematic reasons ok?) Druid's Staff, Captain's Sword and shield, or any of the other weapons. Mages badly need Pantheon weapons.

Why Feudal got access to the Greatsword but not Dark, whom have actual greatsword wielding units, doesn't makes any sense.

Wizard Kings are limited to Sword and Shield, Orb, Bow, staff and Greataxe (lul?), as well as the pantheon weapons.

The fact that seemingly all Tome unlocked Hero skills were outright deleted, and not put in to the new skill threes is frankly a bewildering decision. There's a significant loss in that regard, like important ones like Unholy Leader. On top of that there's the loss of Culture centric skills, like Feudal's Ruler and Undying Loyalty effects. All in all there's a loss of somewhere between 50-70 skills; Edit: Seems some of them have made their way to the various signature Initiate/Adept/Master/Paragon signature categories, though not in direct translation as several of them were altered in the process.
 
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The Dark culture, at least before the rework, was more like a dark/feudal culture with dark knights, weakening, and heavy necro/cold support. It didn't really distinguish itself too much from feudal culture, more like an evil version of it.

Classes should have been soft archetypes decided by the weapons held by the heroes, but allowing for the hero or ruler to change weapons. This change would cost lost skill points.
 
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The Dark culture, at least before the rework, was more like a dark/feudal culture with dark knights, weakening, and heavy necro/cold support. It didn't really distinguish itself too much from feudal culture, more like an evil version of it.

Classes should have been soft archetypes decided by the weapons held by the heroes, but allowing for the hero or ruler to change weapons. This change would cost lost skill points.
would argue to me high and dark always felt like the holy kingdom kind of deal in fantasy and the tyrant or dark overlord i fantasy as well overall seen in western dark fantasy
 
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would argue to me high and dark always felt like the holy kingdom kind of deal in fantasy and the tyrant or dark overlord i fantasy as well overall seen in western dark fantasy
Yeah, but both feudal and dark have knights as their tier 3 specials. Dark could have made a great subculture for evil feudal style, with a more encompassing dark culture that would be a polar opposite of high, with tome paths focusing on blood and sacrifice magic, cold magic, necromancy, nightcloaking and ambushing enhancements for heros and stacks.

I just don't think base feudal and dark cultures are different enough visually or in special events.
 
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Yeah, but both feudal and dark have knights as their tier 3 specials. Dark could have made a great subculture for evil feudal style, with a more encompassing dark culture that would be a polar opposite of high, with tome paths focusing on blood and sacrifice magic, cold magic, necromancy, nightcloaking and ambushing enhancements for heros and stacks.

I just don't think base feudal and dark cultures are different enough visually or in special events.
i do agree although high, knight and dark seems to be the typical fantasy themes for good, neutral evil knights, generally a holy kingdom has paladin which is a mage knight of sorts, war priest(i supose inquisitor works) and saintess( generally is a mix of heal and holy judgement like attacks ), dark empires deal with dark knight which also is a mage knight but with dark magic or curses, dark mage and witch/hex user

normal knights do deal with knight no magic for it, mage/archmage, and maybe a combination of both

this is from what i can remember in the fantasy settings i have read
 
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Very cool, but I think y'all missed out on using some of the unique tome skills as ambitions and/or roleplaying ambitions. These are ripe for expansions in future. Especially, free updates to prior DLCs tying into those DLC's themes. This also offers way to add some mini-story RPG elements as part of DLCS as these could come with their own unique quests similar to Primal culture does but it would be unique to these DLC ambitions.

Example: From what I read things a lot of the unique summons have been cut. These would have been cool flavor ambitions.

Ideally these would work slightly different in that you get skill at level 1. The major ambition completion causes pet to become very powerful instead (tier 1 ->4), so its always around, but thematically works as ambition is them finding/getting the pet and/or making it more powerful. (Depends on how y'all want to set it up.). Depending how ritualist summon line works/maybe it can also change what is summoned in those actives. I'd love to role-play flavor of a say a Defender with his pet robot Golem Assistant where they both as together a bulwark shields for the rest of the army units.
  1. Tinkerer: Ambition is to master building constructs. Major ambition would be construction of a # of constructs. Grants Golem Assistant as skill. Rebalanced as needed. Note: I also feel like the construct unit line needs fully fleshed out in future as well to make fielding these armies more viable.
  2. Whisper: Desire to become an ambassador of the wisps. Quest to see go to various tiles that have a whisper on map. (Can use primal tree/quest tech where they have you visiting various nearby sites.) Grants the wisp summon skill. Rebalanced as needed.
  3. (Requires Primal DLC) Primal Guardian: Ambition to master the bond with the primal spirit. Gives you a permanent primal spirit companion. Requires you to complete the primal spirit quest series as its major ambition. Summon would be primal spirit skill but a permanent turn 1 auto-summoned pet for this ruler with this ambition. These would only spawn for heroes if you a primal culture.
  4. (Requires Dragon DLC): Dragon Slayer: Ambition to slay a dragon. Ruler only, adds a NPC lord to game as a unique infestation/army on a mountain tile near rulers city. Could also be a unique quest for a recruit-able hero too (maybe done as a world trait). You'd get the hero but have to complete quest within X turns. Also have to deal with the spawned dragon w/ its stack near your capitol city. Hero is free, stays if you complete quest. If you don't, they leave to do it themselves. Dragon de-spawns and hero goes away. Risk/Reward Quest/Trait as Dragon army will come after your city when infestation timer expires (might code this to be longer than normal).
  5. (Requires Dragon DLC): Dragon Egg Finder - similar to above pet ones but ambition is to evolve a baby dragon to adulthood. This may need new art. Mechanically, its a Tier 1 baby dragon (which maybe you could use wyvern art for or make new art but use that as stats?); that evolves up to tier 3 youngling then tier 5. Cannot be permanently killed unless hero is killed.
  6. Legendary Weapon Holder - Could so something similar for weapons; where the ambition is to find, then master a legendary weapon. You have intro ambition to go to tile near ruler city to get weapon. (unique infestation) - then major ambition is unlock its dormant powers by using it in battle. Could use AOW 4 stock tier 4 weapons that y'all designed; you'd chose reward of one of the unique tier 4 weapons appropriate to your class completing 1st quest, but the item bonuses are locked until major ambition is completed. I.e. Pulling Excalibur from the stone but then unleashing its power. Similar to above, this could be tied to a unique world trait that unlocks a unique random hero with this trait that is on the quest to pull Excalibur from the stone and your job is to help them achieve it then master the weapon. IDK. I feel like ambitions are a way that y'all could be leveraged with the World trait and Quest system. Maybe that is in the update but wasn't in this post.
  7. I couldn't think of anything Reaver themed, but you get idea, but it should get a unique ambition. IMO, not related to this post, but the Reaver culture still needs massive rework w/ sub-cultures. I'd like to play a techno-mage industrial type culture that isn't forced to be a warmonger.
Flavor ambitions could also tie nicely into world traits where maybe a Free city spawns with a hero with this ambition or Dwellings (if we ever get more of those). I think this is neat idea that can be expounded upon in future DLC, if that comes. Especially using tome skills that got cut. They would likely could make cool unique ambitions like Cleansing Fire would make a cool Crusader type major ambition unlock for s purging of evil type ambition (if that's not in list).

Classes I'd like to see added: Melee caster/attack - Dark knight, spell blade. Melee support/healer - Paladin. Maybe this is possible in system w/ the signature skills, but I really want to do a melee caster and melee support which are right now ranged/staff focused. Short range attack spells, supports, etc.. Maybe darknight/Paladin = the two arch-types of this class of a melee caster, if added? Skirmisher = Long Range/Medium range w/ physical weapon focus. This could be a Melee/Medium range niche that skirmisher seems that seemed limited melee /w primary range vs. primary melee w/ some medium range. It could also fill the missing melee short range caster fantasy.

Negative: I do not like Command skill as the base unique of Mortal Champion. This is my favorite champion type, but it's a terrible base skill that will only be useful on a handful of niche mortal champion builds. Sacrificing your turn for another to go is very niche support role. It would never be useful for an offensive build, and I'd hate to either have a useless base skill or one that I have to pump points into for usefulness if you go offensive/active hero build. Some type of 3 turn Champion Aura skill would have made more sense that can be upgrade to be permanent as part of its upgrade line, but also could be cast on offensive heroes the turn before combat goes hot (get in range) so its useful even if you never develop the base skill.

I really hope all Hero Ruler types get a base active skill unique to their champion type that is useful regardless of class and builds developed or how many points you put into to make it better (regardless of class.) You feel cheated as player if given a base skill your class/build has no use for. We will see how this plays out and any balance changes that come after you get live feedback, but that's my biggest fear right now.

I also didn't see anything on how Feudal Culture hero class skill perks tie into hero rework. Hopefully this means Feudal Culture is getting the sub-culture tweaks too, but part of the culture's perks was having those unique skills as hero skill options. What's going to replace this as a culture perk benefit?

Another Hero Change not addressed: Recruit-able Dragon Lord Rulers - These should be recruit-able via world trait (for non-dragons) and always an option as a random hero recruit spawn for Dragon Lords (i.e. could be coded as Ruler's off-spring). I know y'all are adding a world trait for pantheon heroes to be recruited, but I think this should be a cool World Trait just for random Dragon Lords. as recruits. Again, the theme/fantasy here is role-playing a true dragon empire. You can get dragon units, but your limited in hero selection to Form units types. I'd like my elite hero units to all be dragons. Or the fantasy of a hero/ruler that befriends a wild dragon that become a hero in their own-right in your army.

This would also allow a unique Quest line story involving your off-spring to pop if you recruit this heroes; though an offspring story line/ruler thing would be cool for all hero types. Would be neat to have a rare chance for a hero to consider your wizard kings/mortal champion's offspring. Taking on and getting the form/perks of your ruler.
 
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The fact that seemingly all Tome unlocked Hero skills were outright deleted, and not put in to the new skill threes is frankly a bewildering decision. There's a significant loss in that regard, like important ones like Unholy Leader. On top of that there's the loss of Culture centric skills, like Feudal's Ruler and Undying Loyalty effects. All in all there's a loss of somewhere between 50-70 skills
Okay, I plan to make a bigger post to catch up with what I missed out on replying to during the weekend (as I lost the internet). But this is categorically false.

A lot of the Tome-unlocked Hero Skills are now unlocked by the Signature Skills instead. Want Poison Weaponary for example? Take the Level 4 Nature Signature, and you can now pick it up. And I would not be surprised if Avatar of Nature is an available skill for people who pick up the Level 16 Nature Signature in turn.
 
The available Champion class x weapon combinations from the Tiger beta.

Defender: Captain's Axe and Shield
Defender: Lasher's Sword and Shield
Defender: Reaver Halbard (Reaver)
Defender: Spear (Primal)
Defender: Sword and Shield
Defender: Tyrant's Sword and Shield
Defender: Veteran's Pike
Mage: Alignment Orb
Mage: Staff of Necromancy
Ranger: Blowgun (Primal)
Ranger: Bow
Ranger: Crowmaster's Bow
Ranger: Heavy Magelock Rifle (Reaver)
Ranger: Hunter's Crossbow
Ranger: Pistol and Sword (Reaver)
Ranger: Sword and Crossbow
Ranger: Umbral Bow
Ritualist Staff of the X (Primal)
Ritualist: Alignment Staff
Ritualist: Cryomancer's Staff
Ritualist: Druid's Staff
Ritualist: Umbral Staff
Warrior :Slayer Sword
Warrior: Berserker's Greataxe
Warrior: Bladed Mace (Mystic)
Warrior: Earthshaker's Hammer
Warrior: Greataxe (Barbarian/Primal/Wizard King)
Warrior: Greathammer (Industrious)
Warrior: Greatsword (Feudal)
Warrior: Lance
Warrior: Umbral Greataxe
Warrior. Martial Cestus

There's no Warrior: Sword and Shield option. Neither is there a Ranger: Axe and Blowgun for Primal or a Ranger: Javelin for Barbarians.

Other observations, weapon abilities are now tied to the weapon proper and not the hero, so you can no longer "abuse" (It was for thematic reasons ok?) Druid's Staff, Captain's Sword and shield, or any of the other weapons. Mages badly need Pantheon weapons.

Why Feudal got access to the Greatsword but not Dark, whom have actual greatsword wielding units, doesn't makes any sense.

Wizard Kings are limited to Sword and Shield, Orb, Bow, staff and Greataxe (lul?), as well as the pantheon weapons.

The fact that seemingly all Tome unlocked Hero skills were outright deleted, and not put in to the new skill threes is frankly a bewildering decision. There's a significant loss in that regard, like important ones like Unholy Leader. On top of that there's the loss of Culture centric skills, like Feudal's Ruler and Undying Loyalty effects. All in all there's a loss of somewhere between 50-70 skills
Many skills were put into new version of signature skills like Unholy Leader being an adept (level 8) shadow skill. There are definitely less active abilities, that before suffered from low scaling into late game. Also most of the previous signature skills were removed or replaced by more exciting versions of old signature skills. (Like new summon elemental creating only earth elementals, but it now is range 5 and can destroy terrain)

You can check the new skills below
 
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Kinda sad that all of the persistent summons are gone, the ones like LED lights and tiny golems.
Also my understanding support hero only have one healing spell now - Restore that you can make better but that's that. Ou and WKs casting point skills is just dragon scales WK edition, that's kinda bad as a skill that you need to spend points to unlock.

PS
We also need an update to Pantheon and Ascended Godir there, so all of the new stuff can be preassigned when AI plays as them.
 
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Is it intended that defender dragons can equip war claws? In practice the only way you can kill a level 16 defender dragon is with ranged units or units that ignore retaliations. There is a ring you can craft that grants the hero status immunity.

Looks like there has been a patch to the beta. The dragon has charge attack in combat load but the item is dropped after combat ends. How often did you update the patch since the 28th? The claw did get duplicated when i loaded the old save from 29th mid combat.
 
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You lot are simply amazing. You're giving this game as much care as the modding community did for AoW 3. Super grateful for your dedication and hard work! <3
 
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Is there a reason you can't pick say, a chaos dragon and then pick nature tomes, skills, upgrades, and transformations for it?
No, save to say that that's not the character and playstyle that I enjoy, even though this is like as not how I'm going to end up playing, hopefully just until the devs improve or change the system in some way. Even with all the signature skills selected to be nature, the breath attack damage type and status effect seem to stay. It is a small thing, but it's silly to force people to make that tradeoff. It doesn't help that, now that I've played around with the update in the public beta, the new Ritualist skill tree is the one I like the least.
 
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