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Dev Diary #96: Maybe I *should* diet…

Greetings.

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Well, well, well, looks like this is where the fat chin meme comes to die.

Today I will be talking about one of the free several patch additions coming alongside Holy Fury, namely character shape.
With our next expansion, rather than being a random genetic component, this visual effect will be turned into a dynamic feature.
The game now will keep track of your character’s lifestyle and either increase or reduce his weight accordingly. Going above a certain threshold will result in your character gaining the Fat trait, alongside the appropriate visual, while going below a certain threshold will result in your character gaining the Malnourished trait, alongside a new emaciated look.

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While there are certain events that can result in immediate gain or loss of weight, characters will progress from one state to the other primarily depending on their conditions and lifestyle. Traits, Focus, Society membership and health can all affect a character’s state. Some factors, such as being Gluttonous, will increase a character’s weight, others, such as belonging to a Monastic Order, will reduce it, and others still, such as leading an army during wartime, will keep it balanced.

New events have been added to give flavor to this new mechanic, allowing players the opportunity to change their habits or offer advice to their friends and relatives’ lifestyle. Some old events have also been updated to use new effects and make the mechanic feel fully integrated to the rest of the game.

And that should be about it.

 

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patch notes mean expansion soon, right PDS?
 
Funny, i thought the opposite, that they need more DD because they won't be able to fill all the week between now and then otherwise (considering they're still a bunch of stuff to cover, i think it's more than a month away, probably 2)

This dev diary and the amount of information gotten makes me think that we will get the DLC around Christmas.
 
I think that by "Monastic Order" they mean the Knightly Monastic Orders, not Theocracies.
I think they mean societies like the Dominicans or Benedictines.
 
1. Is it just fat? Can we become an obese chinful nightmare king?

2. This is amazing, this is the change I have been wanting for so long. I might be able to play with Seduction focus turned on since I can work off the fat.
 
They will need to be updated, I'm afraid.
This feature required updating all chins of all portrait sets and the addition of two new separate layers that apply the fat chins and the malnourished look. Depending on how many custom portrait sets a mod has this might be a faster or slower process.

Nice work! You have so many portrait packs I got a bit worried!

Here is a couple more examples.

Ah so the malnourished face is just paler skin on those two. Well it would be a huge task making new chins and other parts for all portrait packs.
 
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I think they mean societies like the Dominicans or Benedictines.
Yes.

1. Is it just fat? Can we become an obese chinful nightmare king?
Though there is no visual change, the game will acknowledge if a character goes far beyond either extreme. Not something I'd recommend...

Nice work! You have so many portrait packs I got a bit worried!

Ah so the malnourished face is just paler skin on those two. Well it would be a huge task making new chins and other parts for all portrait packs.
Thank you.
Yes, every portrait has a base face, one cannot carve away from that, the layer needs to be something that is placed on top of it.
 
A bit surprising after the latest deb diary and while there are plenty of themes of expansion that remain mysterious. Is that all for this week :(? This makes the release date totally uncertain in any case. Machiavellian.
 
patch notes mean expansion soon, right PDS?
I don't think so. From what they have announced, shown, and alluded to, we still have a few more weeks to wait. I'd guess two months, depending on how much more of the map they have to show off and how many new faces they made, and the amount of other features they want to show off/still have to show off.
 
Why doesn't malnourished reduce health? You should contract and die from diseases more easily if you're under- or over-weight.

If they're using "malnourished" as the binary opposite of "a little on the heavy side", and health penalties come in when you're one step beyond those, then "malnourished" would be more like being skinny, with true malnourishment being the step beyond - health penalty and all. Course, it's also possible that malnourished IS malnourished, and we just haven't seen the benign skinny state.

So the spectrum would probably be something like...

Obese (health penalty) - Fat (minor penalties) - Default - Underweight (minor penalties) - Starving (health penalty)

...just with whatever names they give them. I agree that unhealthy bodies should carry some health penalty (any bit overweight is unhealthy, so -0.5 or -0.25 makes sense, for instance). But games and balance, so "minor penalty before health penalty" is fair.
 
I always wanted to know whether it's true that the fat chin is somehow dominant, I've seen so many people over the years complain that it's incredibly difficult to breed out of your line once it's there.
 
If they're using "malnourished" as the binary opposite of "a little on the heavy side", and health penalties come in when you're one step beyond those, then "malnourished" would be more like being skinny, with true malnourishment being the step beyond - health penalty and all. Course, it's also possible that malnourished IS malnourished, and we just haven't seen the benign skinny state.

So the spectrum would probably be something like...

Obese (health penalty) - Fat (minor penalties) - Default - Underweight (minor penalties) - Starving (health penalty)

...just with whatever names they give them. I agree that unhealthy bodies should carry some health penalty (any bit overweight is unhealthy, so -0.5 or -0.25 makes sense, for instance). But games and balance, so "minor penalty before health penalty" is fair.

Going far after the threshold for either fat/malnourished can indeed result in health complications, especially in older characters; though that happens more rarely.
 
Greetings.

index.php


Well, well, well, looks like this is where the fat chin meme comes to die.

Today I will be talking about one of the free several patch additions coming alongside Holy Fury, namely character shape.
With our next expansion, rather than being a random genetic component, this visual effect will be turned into a dynamic feature.
The game now will keep track of your character’s lifestyle and either increase or reduce his weight accordingly. Going above a certain threshold will result in your character gaining the Fat trait, alongside the appropriate visual, while going below a certain threshold will result in your character gaining the Malnourished trait, alongside a new emaciated look.

index.php


While there are certain events that can result in immediate gain or loss of weight, characters will progress from one state to the other primarily depending on their conditions and lifestyle. Traits, Focus, Society membership and health can all affect a character’s state. Some factors, such as being Gluttonous, will increase a character’s weight, others, such as belonging to a Monastic Order, will reduce it, and others still, such as leading an army during wartime, will keep it balanced.

New events have been added to give flavor to this new mechanic, allowing players the opportunity to change their habits or offer advice to their friends and relatives’ lifestyle. Some old events have also been updated to use new effects and make the mechanic feel fully integrated to the rest of the game.

And that should be about it.

I F***ING LOVE YOU DEVS, MARRY ME
THIS IS THE BEST FEATURE EVER SO FAR