Developer Diary | Hungary

[D3vil]

Looks excellent! Will people who don't own AAT still get access to the new armor and aircraft designers?

And does Horthy get a crown?

Yes, but as designers and not MIOs in such a case.

Yes, but that portrait isn't done yet, so you will have to wait for release to see it.

 

[D3vil]

Will Edward Teller and Leó Szilárd be scientists for Hungary or the US, considering they were both Hungarian but worked on the Manhattan project?

They will be for Hungary, on the condition that you go democratic and attempt to reverse the brain drain they are experiencing in this time. The US has all the scientists they need, so making them available for them as well wasn't deemed to be a necessity.

 

[D3vil]

Wait how can you get Vyshyvanyi to rule Hungary?

He can be a Field Marshal for Hungary, and rule Ukraine, but he cannot rule Hungary.

 

[D3vil]

Small little question but would the KABSZ aka "the eastern front companions association" be present or mentioned in any form or shape?

They are mentioned briefly in flavor text, but not an actual national spirit, as Hungary has enough of those in their branches.

 

[D3vil]

Will Slovakia have a small focus tree?

No.

 

[D3vil]

Also, will Slovakia be added finally as a releasable country since the beginning?

Yes, but not manually releasable by Hungary or Czechoslovakia.

 

[D3vil]

Can you please give us the exact number of hubsburgs you can put on every throne of it's possible
By the way great work of that fresh looking Hungrian focus tree

I think 10, but there could be someone I'm missing

 

[D3vil]

What about coronation of Göring as Hungarian king in Crossed Arrows path? I saw information that Szálasi proposed the Hungarian crown to him in 1944, but Göring said that he needed to have the Führer’s approval before he could give a definite answer. The Crossed Arrows also fabricated a coat of arms and a family tree for him, as if the Görings were a collateral branch of the Árpád dynasty.

There may be a way for the Arrow Cross path to get him as a "constitutional" king.

 

[D3vil]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/goetterdaemmerung-expansion-pass.1705688/post-29919975

I renew my question from this Developer diaries Götterdämmerung | Expansion Pass.

Will Hungary be blocked from attacking Poland in 1939 in historical mode if they are/will be in a faction with Germany? according to history?

Has the historic decision of Hungarian Prime Minister Pál Teleki to refuse assistance during the invasion of Poland been included in the new tree?

Hungary on historical will not be in the Axis in 1939, and Pál Teleki stops being an advisor once you enter an offensive war.

 

[D3vil]

Dear Jonathan,

Wow thank you for your reply, I am absolutely honoured! Thank you elaborating and answering my questions, I understand now!
Just one more thing: Please please please change the borders of Burgenland, they are simply not correct.

I would love to, but due to technical reasons, that would have to wait until some time later, but I will try to do it for by the time Graveyard of Empires releases.

 

[D3vil]

How does Hungary has access to Crossley Motors? Also does the UK has them as one of their own MIO?

Yes it is a UK MIO that Hungary can use as long as they aren't at war with the UK.

 

[D3vil]

Does this mean Croatia and Slovakia will also have small focus trees?

No

 

[D3vil]

Sorry one more minor complaint, the "Dunai Gépgyár" is called "Danuvia Gépgyár.

Copyright sadly

 

[D3vil]

Can you at least confirm some of the paths that would still remained free (i consider DoD as free now) without GDMR?

The DoD tree is free, this one requires this DLC

 

[D3vil]

Wow, this dev diary looks amazing. Was super cool to see the Sich Riflemen from the West Ukrainian PR.
I am wondering if the Hungarian invasion of Carpathian Ukraine will be modeled in game? Currently in hoi4 Hungary merely annexes it, but historically we saw a small Ukrainian state appear as an autonomous region in 1938 and then independent in 1939. They had the support of the OUN and appealed to Germany for help before being promptly invaded.
Maybe since the event happened so quickly, I'd understand if the war wasnt modeled as an actual war between two tags. Maybe as an event?

Carpatho-Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Also, will Hungary have a focus to create the Toldi and Turan tanks series? And will the Toldi be represented as a Swedish license with customizations or as a Hungarian tech?

There are no specific things for Carpatho Ukraine, but UKR does now start with a core in Carpathian Ruthenia instead.

Also yes, there are in fact focuses to create Toldi and Turan tanks series.

 

[D3vil]

Nice to see icons for MIOs and so (nearly) no generic icons, but is that logo for MWG Rába final?
It seems quite easy to find logos for that company.

Copyright

 

[Nattmaran]

Well, this is a huge mistake, you just had to search and the internet is full of it. Right away, he threw this out on the first hit:

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Rába logo from 1933

source

We hear you, but for legal reasons we cannot use this. It's a very cool logo though!

 

[D3vil]

Small last minute question cause i forgot but, would hungary have Archduke Joseph August of Habsburg-Lorraine as a general/fieldmarshall? Thanks in adavance for any reply on the matter
@D3vil (Jonathan)

If going down any of the Habsburg paths, then yes he appears as a Field Marshal. Otherwise no.

 

[D3vil]

First of all thank you for making this update for Hungary!

There are some names that as a native Hungarian give me quite a headache among the focuses and the decisions:
(I will provide the corrected text as well as an English variation for better understanding or for an alternative name and provide some context for them)

"Expand the Honvéd" -> "Expand the Honvédség" or "Expand the Hungarian Defence Forces"
Elaboration: Honvéd refers to an individual soldier of the Hungarian Defence Forces.

"Székel Command" -> "Székely Command" or "Szekler Command"
Elaboration: Probably a typo, but if you want to in English the correct way to refer to this specific ethnic group is Szekler or szeklers. There is an ongoing debate on wheter they are Hungarian, or a different ethnic group who just speak Hungarian, so it's best to not brand them as Hungarians currently.

Győr Program decisions:
(like someone else already said, Győri Program would be the correct way to refer to it)

"Invest in the Diósgyőri Gépgyárs Újgyár Azsia Plant" -> "Invest in the "Ázsia" division of the Diósgyőri Gépgyár" or "Invest in the "Asia" division of the Diósgyőr Machinery Factory"
Elaboration: Újgyár or "New Factory" was the nickname for the Diósgyőri Gépgyár (It translates as "Machine Factory located at Diósgyőr" ) because originally it was the subdivision of the Diósgyőri Vas és Acélgyár (translates as "Iron and Steel Factory at Diósgyőr"), while Ázsia was the codename for it's small arms supply wing.

"Open the Danuvia Magyar Lőszerművek Factory in Veszprém" -> "Open the Veszprém Lőszerművek Factory" or "Open the Hungarian Ammunition Factory in Veszprém"
Elaboration: The Factory never had association with the Danuvia or the Danubia corporations, it ran under the name Veszprém Lőszerművek Rt. (Translates as "Veszprém Ammunition Works Company")

"Resuscitate the Magyar Lloyd Repülőgép és motorgyár Részvény-Társaság" -> "Resuscitate the Magyar Lloyd Repülőgép és Motorgyár" or "Resuscitate the Hungarian Lloyd Aircraft and Motor Factory"
Elaboration: "Részvény-Társaság" (usually abbreviated as "Rt.") is the Hungarian version of co./inc. just in it's full form.

"Invest in Dunai Repülőgépgyár" -> "Invest in the Dunai Repülőgépgyár" or "Invest in the Danubian Aircraft Factory"
Elaboration: Probably a typo that has already been fixed, but also some English translation for it.

"Open the Székesfehérvári-Sóstó Plant" -> "Open the Repülő Kísérleti Műhely" or "Open the Experimental Aviation Workshop"
Elaboration: It's a bit hard to find the actual name of the subdivision of the Experimental Aviation Institute which came up with the RMI-1 X/H and X/G

Some notes on Hungarian grammar:
-i at the end of words is an indicator mean "from that place" or "located at that place". The y is usually used by noble families in family names for the same purpose. Example: Tildy means "Noble from Tild" (present day Telince) or Diósgyőri means "From the location named Diósgyőr" (a city in this case, but Dunai means "located along the danube")

To clarify my intentions: I am a Native Hungarian who is currently finishing his Historian Bachelor's Degree, and I wish this DLC to launch with the least amount of Historical errors due to Language barriers and misunderstandings. I know it can be hard to wrap one's head around the Hungarian language, it's one of the most difficult languages to learn for a reason.

Hope I helped you understand the various names, and by doing so contributed to the popular representation of my field of science.
Best of luck to all of you in the Hearts of Iron team!

Thank you very much! I will be sure to take a look at the things pointed out and see what can be changed.