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EU4 - Development Diary - 13th of October 2021

Hello everybody, and welcome! This week we will shift the focus from the upcoming African content, to the new Monuments that we will be introducing for Leviathan DLC owners, and that will come along with the 1.32 patch.

As this has been quite a popular feature of the last DLC, we felt that we could create a few more for the game. And when I say a few, I mean that we’ve almost doubled them, with 52 new monuments being added. So first let’s talk a bit about the creative process and the decisions that we made when choosing which ones we wanted, and then I will be showing some of them (although not all, as that would really be a long post, and we want to surprise you a bit when looking at them for the first time ingame!).

The creative process started a few months ago, just after releasing the new Monuments of 1.31.5 patch. As we pointed out back then, the thing that takes more time about this feature is the Art involved, and because of that you’ve not heard anything about them in a few months. So, we really wanted to choose some beautiful and meaningful buildings to be included.

Apart from that, we also wanted the regional distribution of the Monuments to be a bit fairer, as we felt that some regions were crowded with them, but others were a bit sparse. So here you have a sneak peak of that:

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Now we have 18 monuments in America (11 new), 31 in Europe (16 new), 9 in Africa (5 new), 45 in Asia (19 new), and 2 in Oceania (1 new). That’s 52 new monuments in total. We would have preferred to have a few more monuments here and there, but overall we are mostly happy with the result, and we really hope you enjoy them.

So, where did our inspiration to pick the new ones come from? First we incorporated the ones that were voted for in the forum around May; so, Cahokia, Malbork Castle, Brandenburg Gate, Santa Maria del Fiore, Bran Castle, the Rock-Hewn Churches of Lalibela, the Great Living Chola Temples, Porcelain Tower of Nanjing and Nan Madoll are in.

Then, we had been gathering suggestions from the community here in the forums, in the Monuments-specific threads. We have to thank you all for the passion you showed, as we had a long-list of around 100 Monuments to pick from, and that was a great inspiration for us. Last, but not least, we checked a lot of different places from the UNESCO World Heritage list.

Now let’s go to the cool part of the DD, and let me show you some of the new Monuments.

[Disclaimer: modifiers are currently being tested by us and our QA, so expect changes on them when 1.32 patch is released.]

First one we want to show you is in the Americas: the Qhapaq Ñam, portraying the famous Incan Road System. Although we brainstormed a bit about how we could do this without being attached to only one province, we thought that it would be a bit difficult to do, and we wanted to be coherent with the other monuments, which are located in only one province. Anyway, we represented this as a buff for an united Andean Empire, and because of that it’s on the most northern tag of the region. If you notice the last modifier, it is a new one affecting Yearly Inti Authority (there's a word lacking there to be fixed, yes!), so we think it’s a nice buff for the main religion in the region:

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Next one is Santa Maria del Fiore, one widely requested by the community, and one that we obviously think should be included, as being so Stendhal-esque! We took the opportunity to add a nice modifier to it, so here you have this Monthly Splendor modifier that we think fits perfectly with it:

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Now let’s move to Africa. It was obvious for us that some new Monuments had to be added to the region we’re focusing on for the next Immersion Pack, and make them useful with the new content we’ve been designing. So here you’ve got the famous Rock-Hewn Churches at Lalibela, that gives some extra flavour when playing as Ethiopia, as it’s our first Coptic-related Monument. And I’ll give you some extra info, not directly related with today’s DD, but with this area: yes, we will have some new mechanics for Judaism! But those will be revealed in a couple weeks.

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Let’s go now to Asia. Here we’ve added a bunch of monuments to India, as we felt this subcontinent to be a bit empty of Monuments in comparison to other regions. One of those is Hampi, the renowned capital of Vijayanagar, that grew as a really princely city (until being razed by the Bahmani Empire, of course…). So, here we’ve got a couple of interesting things to show. First is the new ‘All Estates’ Loyalty Equilibrium’, that now will make our lives (and modders’ ones!) easier, as we can add this loyalty equilibrium modifier to all the existing estates in our country. The other thing is that we added a couple new requirements for Buddhist Monuments, so now they can be used also by Hindu countries with a ruler following the Buddha cult, or by Fetishist ones that follow Buddhadharma. [Obviously the Hindu Buddha cult is redundant in this Monument, as it can be used by Dharmic religion groups, but we wanted to show this fix we’ve done in this pic.]

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To end with the Oceania continent, we’ve added here its second monument, the settlement of Nan Madoll. We wanted this to work as a kind of race prize and reward for colonizing the Pacific islands, so because of that the nice modifiers for colonization, coupled with the Yearly Navy Tradition one.

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That’s mostly all for today! Because I want to make a last announcement: Paradox Tinto will be joining the Grandest Lan event with a Dev (Dream) Team! Probably we will be beaten badly by everyone else in the game, but at least it will probably be fun.

Next week we will come back to the new African content, and my colleague @Ogele will be talking about Mutapa and Kilwa new missions, among other things. I’ll be reading your feedback along this week, see you!
 
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so that's 5 monuments out of the 52 new? only one in Paris for France? that's a bit sad for the countyside
 
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Good to see monuments spreading out some. I like that there will be more support for the previously lacking regions.

That said: I don't think the +Incan Authority modifier will do anything. I last played them on 1.30, but unless something has changed since then you'll never need the +reform by the time you can get the monument built. That's both from the cost of building the monument and the actual construction time. It just doesn't take that long to get through all of the reforms, and then you're only getting a little bit per year.

A big chunk of authority all at once might work better. It can help you catch up if you fell behind, and you might get the first level before you reform anyway. Otherwise I'd like to see a conditional thing, where you get authority if you haven't reformed and something else if you have. A stability discount probably makes sense, or maybe a dev cost reduction.
 
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Have you considered updating the monument map? The current one just shows just slightly different color of green for every monument level what is confusing. It would be better to have a completly different color, like red for level 0, orange for level 1, yellow for level 2 and green for level 3 (the highest level counts if there are multiple monuments in a province).
 
And I’ll give you some extra info, not directly related with today’s DD, but with this area: yes, we will have some new mechanics for Judaism! But those will be revealed in a couple weeks.
Please don't forget to edit Thessaloniki event that turns province into Judaism to also turn culture into Sephardic! new Iberian culture!
 
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Nice. One suggestion for the Qhapaq Nan: please give it a bonus of troop movement! It's so tedious to move your troops through all those mountain terrain provinces, when they are your own heartland. This is a historical effect, the reason for building the road was to ease travel/communication between the empire.

Also there is a typo, it is Ñan and not Ñam! Please fix this
 
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Skipping my weekly rating as it is far from showing enough information to judge and is Leviathan based content. I do get that it is for you a way to compensate for the pretty much disappearance of Concentrate Dev as a central mechanic
 
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52 new monuments? That's simply incredible! I was thinking maximum of 20 or something, but 52? That's amazing.

I wish there was something for Livonia and Lithuania, Sweden is lacking a monument, too.
Sadly, nothing for Adal, as well. But still, great work, can't wait for the new update!
 
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My other suggestion would be to please add some monuments in the MENA region. There is a focus on sites that are modern tourist attractions, instead of the landmarks which were actually a big deal in the period. I'm not necessarily opposed to those ancient monuments, especially cause you have to be pagan to use some of them, but maybe we can have both.

Instead of a random (admittedly picturesque) Moroccan village, I would say El Badi Palace in Marrakesh or Dar el-Makhzen in Fez. The former was built during this period, the latter expanded and rebuilt in the period, both as royal projects
Let's add Al-Azhar Mosque/University in Cairo to give Islamic countries something to use. The Mamluks and Ottomans kept this institution up.
Let's add the Ummayyad Mosque in Damascus. Was renovated by the Ottomans.
It looks like you added a monument in Isfahan which is awesome.
 
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Erdenne Zuu/remnants of Karakorum, maybe? Not sure if that should be further east, though.

Probably, as it was one of my suggestion in the Monument Megathread, and rated as "helpful" by Pavia.

By the way, I don't remember Bran Castle and Great Living Chola Temples being in the list of monument we could vote for. But my memory is probably wrong.
 
Looking at the map, I see that Amsterdam, Venice and Dhaka all got a Monument. Thanks for considering the suggestion. I still think Suzhou could use one, it was definitely one of the most important Chinese cities during the EU4 timeframe.
 
There should be loads of them in Italy.
We decided that in general, we wanted to keep countries (as in modern borders) to have at most two monuments each, to keep some balance. Italy for being such a center of culture was allowed to have three. Also, save for Constantinople, we did not want to fall again into the mistake of adding more than one monument for a single province.

Huge countries with enormous populations such as China and India need to have more. But yeah, the overall reason was to nor cramp the map and keep some balance.
China got 55 World Heritgae Site, but only got 5 monuments, jealous of our neighbour India, they look like Greenland;)
China is mostly unified so it would not be a good idea to give them more. India on the other hand is very fractured.

In the end, it has been a matter of having a good representation all around the world, to keep some balance inside regions and between regions and keep the list around 50 monuments (art takes a long time so we cannot just add monument after monument).
 
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I don't want to be that guy who thinks every place on the map should be the same, but really?

Not a single monument for the entire Balkans region?
 
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