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EU4 - Development Diary - 14th of May 2019

Welcome again to another EU4 Dev Diary. This week, I will be presenting a few of the German mission trees we have been working on that will come as paid content for those who buy the expansion that will accompany the large European update planned at the end of the year.

Our aim with the expansion is to provide the major powers of continental Europe (from Brest to Constantinople) with sizeable mission trees (15+ missions), adding to each country’s unique experience. These will be paid content. We also hope to (time permitting) add smaller, free mission trees of around 5-10 missions to various other interesting countries that, for one reason or another, we were unable to give full mission trees.

In the context of Germany (today, I speak of Germany in the modern sense of the word), Brandenburg-Prussia, Bavaria and Saxony have been given full mission trees, and we hope to add a few missions for the other regional formables (Franconia etc) and electors. I also hear @neondt has a soft spot for Dithmarschen, and certain other beloved minors may get some additions.

Now, onto those missions we’ve made.

NB: Most new missions presented have wip mission icons and will receive new ones before release.

Bavaria (available to Munich, Landshut, Ingolstadt and Bavaria)

Bavarian Missions.png


Bavaria already has a few free missions. These have been reworked a bit to reflect Bavaria’s new starting position and supplemented by a further 15 missions. In terms of conquests, the existing missions broadly focus on Bavaria’s historical gains over our time period, so the new missions go a bit further and represent the aims that a more successful Bavarian state may have had, giving you the chance to reclaim lands owned by the Bavarian stem duchy at its height (c. 975 AD) and various other territories the Wittelsbachs had once held (e.g. Brandenburg and the Netherlands). Furthermore, the new conquest mission tree includes the opportunity to request that the Emperor grant you the Palatinate’s elector status if you PU them (it also gives the appropriate CB to do so) and lets you set up your dynasty in Cologne.

Further branches of the new mission tree focus on developing your homelands and your nation’s capabilities, dealing with new ideas that might emerge among your subjects over the course of the game, and of course, assuming Bavaria’s rightful position among the states of Germany.


Saxony (available to Saxony and Thuringia)

Saxon Missions.png


Saxony had no country-unique missions. As one of the key powers of the HRE in the first half of our period, we decided to correct this and have added 16 new missions. The conquest missions focus, on the one hand, on avoiding the fragmentation with which they were beset in history and conquering lands that had once been part of the Saxon stem duchy (e.g. Brunswick, Westphalia), and on the other, on replicating the exploits of the likes of Frederick Augustus I, also known as Augustus II the Strong, who became the King of Poland-Lithuania as well as Prince-Elector of Saxony.

A further branch focuses on the prestige of the Prince-Elector and entails the foundation of Wittenberg University, winning the religious wars, spreading the dynasty far and wide (a branch of it still rules Britain under the name “Windsor”), and taking on the title of King.

Finally, the economic branch gives you the opportunity to change Dresden/Meissen’s trade good to porcelain, make Leipzig a centre of trade (it became an important commercial centre over this period) and industrialise Saxony.


Brandenburg-Prussia (available to Brandenburg and Prussia)

Brandenburg Missions.png


Like Bavaria, Brandenburg and Prussia already had a few missions. These have been incorporated into their new, larger mission tree, which focuses on the one hand on Prussia establishing itself as the preeminent German state, the unification Germany under them, and their conquests in the east; and on the other on replicating the feats of military organisation the Prussian state achieved in the 18th century, and generally on Prussia having the appearance as well as the military of a great power of Europe. Furthermore, in a tribute to alt-history, a couple of missions were dedicated to making a success of Brandenburg’s (historically abortive) colonial ambitions.

Note: The missions Army Reforms and An Army with a State only become available once Prussia is formed.

That’s it for today. Next week we’ll be back to map changes, with @Ofaloaf presenting the new-look Italy.
 
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Illuminatis? Come on...
you do know that the Illuminati were founded in Bavaria by a man called Adam Weishaupt in 1776? That's a fact. No matter what you think of them today, if they still exist or not, but they were founded in 1776, were banned and iirc fled the country.
 
I think Bohemia needs a better mission tree surrounding the reformation and maybe pu Hungary and Austria
tbh Poland/Hungary/Bohemia should all have PU missions on each other for historical reasons... especialy since atm poland missions in their descriptions (ironicaly enough) use the czech/bohemian dynasty of Premyslids that managed to hold all 3 kingdoms at one moment in 14th century, the hungarian throne was unholdable because dissatisfaction etc (austria could tell stories) but for polish throne it was different and wars were made for it, in the end the czech king (no longer premyslid since the dynasty got assassinated into oblivion) gave up polish crown in exchange for new polish king giving up all claims for Silesia whose rulers swore fealthy to the czech king and this ended up with Silesia becoming core part of bohemian lands later on, to this day Silesia was longer under Bohemia than under Poland (and never was under poland in entire eu4 timeline which brings me to question, why is it in polish region...) oof, this turned into a paragraph of history rambling...
 
Since @Caligula Caesar mentioned it, I've been working on a few missions for everyone's favourite peasant republic, Dithmarschen.

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Note: the above missions will be a free feature of the upcoming European update.

In keeping with some of our earlier mission trees for minor nations such as Navarra and Tibet, the peasant republic has a challenging but rewarding set of goals. They'll need to begin by securing the protection of a benevolent Bishop before recruiting a band of egalitarian pirates, resisting the feudal lords of Germany, and fighting back against Danish aggression. Dithmarschen can then embark on a righteous quest to rid Europe of tyranny while also securing prosperity and equality for its people.

There's still a long time before the release of our European expansion, so do let us know if there are any other minor nations you think are deserving of a little extra love.


Time to R E S I S T F E U D A L I S M
 
oh yeah plz don't delete Ravensburg or any other hre minor currently in either give them a small province or add cores plz
i don't want to see the lil' german boys ive grown so acustom over the years to die.

agree if you support!
#SaveRavensburg
#SaveHREOPMs
 
German King == HR Emperor

So Austria == King Rank
I think there is a legitimate argument to be made that Austria should be given kingdom rank on becoming an archduchy, perhaps with a unique government reform (and legacy govt type) to handle it as the archduchy is treated as kingdom rank even in the more title-sensitive ck2, but I'd really rather not get a system of a non-elector emperor's gov't rank getting automatically changed around on winning or losing the election every time as the reasoning you suggest would logically require.
 
Since @Caligula Caesar mentioned it, I've been working on a few missions for everyone's favourite peasant republic, Dithmarschen.

View attachment 480282
Note: the above missions will be a free feature of the upcoming European update.

In keeping with some of our earlier mission trees for minor nations such as Navarra and Tibet, the peasant republic has a challenging but rewarding set of goals. They'll need to begin by securing the protection of a benevolent Bishop before recruiting a band of egalitarian pirates, resisting the feudal lords of Germany, and fighting back against Danish aggression. Dithmarschen can then embark on a righteous quest to rid Europe of tyranny while also securing prosperity and equality for its people.

There's still a long time before the release of our European expansion, so do let us know if there are any other minor nations you think are deserving of a little extra love.
This is looking nice so far.
 
Not really, there was a regnum teutonicum within the Holy Roman Empire ever since.
Yeah but that's the medieval kingdom of Germany and it's mainly on the west bank of the elbe so clearly that is not the definition we can use.
 
Yeah but that's the medieval kingdom of Germany and it's mainly on the west bank of the elbe so clearly that is not the definition we can use.

Reichskreise of the Holy Roman Empire, as of 1560:

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Generally, the territories that were part of the Reichskreis were also part of one of the Kingdom of Germany as one of the segments of the Holy Roman Empire.

As you can see, Prussia is not part of the Reichskreis and thus not part of Germany. And no, it wasn't added to a Reichskries after 1618 when it fell in personal union with Brandenburg.
 
Welcome again to another EU4 Dev Diary. This week, I will be presenting a few of the German mission trees we have been working on that will come as paid content for those who buy the expansion that will accompany the large European update planned at the end of the year.

Our aim with the expansion is to provide the major powers of continental Europe (from Brest to Constantinople) with sizeable mission trees (15+ missions), adding to each country’s unique experience. These will be paid content. We also hope to (time permitting) add smaller, free mission trees of around 5-10 missions to various other interesting countries that, for one reason or another, we were unable to give full mission trees.

In the context of Germany (today, I speak of Germany in the modern sense of the word), Brandenburg-Prussia, Bavaria and Saxony have been given full mission trees, and we hope to add a few missions for the other regional formables (Franconia etc) and electors. I also hear @neondt has a soft spot for Dithmarschen, and certain other beloved minors may get some additions.

Now, onto those missions we’ve made.

NB: Most new missions presented have wip mission icons and will receive new ones before release.

Bavaria (available to Munich, Landshut, Ingolstadt and Bavaria)

View attachment 480268

Bavaria already has a few free missions. These have been reworked a bit to reflect Bavaria’s new starting position and supplemented by a further 15 missions. In terms of conquests, the existing missions broadly focus on Bavaria’s historical gains over our time period, so the new missions go a bit further and represent the aims that a more successful Bavarian state may have had, giving you the chance to reclaim lands owned by the Bavarian stem duchy at its height (c. 975 AD) and various other territories the Wittelsbachs had once held (e.g. Brandenburg and the Netherlands). Furthermore, the new conquest mission tree includes the opportunity to request that the Emperor grant you the Palatinate’s elector status if you PU them (it also gives the appropriate CB to do so) and lets you set up your dynasty in Cologne.

Further branches of the new mission tree focus on developing your homelands and your nation’s capabilities, dealing with new ideas that might emerge among your subjects over the course of the game, and of course, assuming Bavaria’s rightful position among the states of Germany.


Saxony (available to Saxony and Thuringia)

View attachment 480269

Saxony had no country-unique missions. As one of the key powers of the HRE in the first half of our period, we decided to correct this and have added 16 new missions. The conquest missions focus, on the one hand, on avoiding the fragmentation with which they were beset in history and conquering lands that had once been part of the Saxon stem duchy (e.g. Brunswick, Westphalia), and on the other, on replicating the exploits of the likes of Frederick Augustus I, also known as Augustus II the Strong, who became the King of Poland-Lithuania as well as Prince-Elector of Saxony.

A further branch focuses on the prestige of the Prince-Elector and entails the foundation of Wittenberg University, winning the religious wars, spreading the dynasty far and wide (a branch of it still rules Britain under the name “Windsor”), and taking on the title of King.

Finally, the economic branch gives you the opportunity to change Dresden/Meissen’s trade good to porcelain, make Leipzig a centre of trade (it became an important commercial centre over this period) and industrialise Saxony.


Brandenburg-Prussia (available to Brandenburg and Prussia)

View attachment 480270

Like Bavaria, Brandenburg and Prussia already had a few missions. These have been incorporated into their new, larger mission tree, which focuses on the one hand on Prussia establishing itself as the preeminent German state, the unification Germany under them, and their conquests in the east; and on the other on replicating the feats of military organisation the Prussian state achieved in the 18th century, and generally on Prussia having the appearance as well as the military of a great power of Europe. Furthermore, in a tribute to alt-history, a couple of missions were dedicated to making a success of Brandenburg’s (historically abortive) colonial ambitions.

Note: The missions Army Reforms and An Army with a State only become available once Prussia is formed.

That’s it for today. Next week we’ll be back to map changes, with @Ofaloaf presenting the new-look Italy.
Mission trees suck! Bring back the old, never ending mission system!
 
I‘m sure reformed with +2 Tolerance of heretics(of reformed) and Prussian NI will be enough. No Protestant!
The Electorate of Brandenburg was not calvinist. There was a very clear distinction between the personal religion of the electors and the state religion of the electorate.
Elector Joachim II Hector adopted the Lutheran confession (the Confessio Augustana) and subsequently the March of Brandenburg became overwhelmingly Lutheran (=Protestant) in the second half of the 16th century. All clergymen and school teachers had to subscribe to the Formula of Concord of 1577, the final doctrinal statement of the Lutheran church, which ensured that they had to follow Lutheran teachings.
His great-grandson Johann Sigismund, for reasons that are very much subject to dispute among historians (some say personal conviction, some say political considerations, i.e. a desire for a closer alignment with the Netherlands and the Palatinate) decided to convert to the reformed, Calvinist confession and made this step publicly in the Berlin Cathedral on Christmas Day of 1613. He proclaimed a confession for the March of Brandenburg, the Confessio Sigismundi, in 1614, which stipulated tolerance for his Lutheran subjects, but was probably meant as a first step towards a conversion of his territory to the Calvinist confession (on the base of the principle of "cuius regio, eius religio", i.e. that a territory had to follow the confession of its prince).
This, however, did not come to pass due to massive and belligerent resistance among populace and nobility, which culminated in the Berlin Tumult of 1615. As a consequence, the elector dropped his plan, the obligatory subscription to the Formula of Concord remained in effect and thus Lutheranism, and not Calvinism, was the official, legal confession of the March of Brandenburg, while the electors, their court and some other small sections of the state (such as the University of Frankfurt and der Oder) were Calvinist - a situation that is sometimes referred to by historians as "Hofcalvinismus" (Court Calvinism, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofcalvinismus).
The famous Edict of Tolerance of Friedrich Wilhelm, the Great Elector, of 1662, obligated the Lutheran Clergymen of Brandenburg's Landeskirche to tolerate Calvinist teachings - which demonstrates that Lutheranism was the official, legal confession and Calvinism enjoyed a certain degree of tolerance (but, to my knowledge, Calvinists still could not legally preach in most churches or teach in schools!).

There was a similar situation in Saxony after August the Strong converted to Catholicism in order to become King of Poland, in the Duchy of Holstein-Gottorp when its Dukes became Czars of Russia, and in the Electorate of Hanover when its electors became heads of the Church of England.
 
That makes you an exception among millions. "Leitkultur" is the counter concept to multiculturalism, not an abstract but a very modern term that has intentionally and precisely been created for the purpose of naming a position in probably the most polarizing dispute in our society. It doesn't matter if one agrees with it or not, "Leitkultur" has no connection to the timeline and Bavaria; using it in this context is a terrible decision.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitkultur
Calm down. It is clearly just a joke. Like the Dithmarschen = Communists missions.

I like this joke, since a Horst from bavaria got a Federal ministry with it "Heimat-Ministerium" (at least a Department in it, not yet listed in the english article) in the aftermath of the "Leitkultur" debate.

In remembrance of the old "manga" mission for japan and some others (is there still some fun in Saruhan?), it's fine by me.
 
The Electorate of Brandenburg was not calvinist. There was a very clear distinction between the personal religion of the electors and the state religion of the electorate.
Elector Joachim II Hector adopted the Lutheran confession (the Confessio Augustana) and subsequently the March of Brandenburg became overwhelmingly Lutheran (=Protestant) in the second half of the 16th century. All clergymen and school teachers had to subscribe to the Formula of Concord of 1577, the final doctrinal statement of the Lutheran church, which ensured that they had to follow Lutheran teachings.
His great-grandson Johann Sigismund, for reasons that are very much subject to dispute among historians (some say personal conviction, some say political considerations, i.e. a desire for a closer alignment with the Netherlands and the Palatinate) decided to convert to the reformed, Calvinist confession and made this step publicly in the Berlin Cathedral on Christmas Day of 1613. He proclaimed a confession for the March of Brandenburg, the Confessio Sigismundi, in 1614, which stipulated tolerance for his Lutheran subjects, but was probably meant as a first step towards a conversion of his territory to the Calvinist confession (on the base of the principle of "cuius regio, eius religio", i.e. that a territory had to follow the confession of its prince).
This, however, did not come to pass due to massive and belligerent resistance among populace and nobility, which culminated in the Berlin Tumult of 1615. As a consequence, the elector dropped his plan, the obligatory subscription to the Formula of Concord remained in effect and thus Lutheranism, and not Calvinism, was the official, legal confession of the March of Brandenburg, while the electors, their court and some other small sections of the state (such as the University of Frankfurt and der Oder) were Calvinist - a situation that is sometimes referred to by historians as "Hofcalvinismus" (Court Calvinism, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofcalvinismus).
The famous Edict of Tolerance of Friedrich Wilhelm, the Great Elector, of 1662, obligated the Lutheran Clergymen of Brandenburg's Landeskirche to tolerate Calvinist teachings - which demonstrates that Lutheranism was the official, legal confession and Calvinism enjoyed a certain degree of tolerance (but, to my knowledge, Calvinists still could not legally preach in most churches or teach in schools!).

There was a similar situation in Saxony after August the Strong converted to Catholicism in order to become King of Poland, in the Duchy of Holstein-Gottorp when its Dukes became Czars of Russia, and in the Electorate of Hanover when its electors became heads of the Church of England.

AFAIK the 2. Edict 1664 was more important. The Protestant / Calvinist issue was just solved 1817. Brandenburg/Prussia should be Calvinist state with a huge Protestant majority. Phps.
 
AFAIK the 2. Edict 1664 was more important. The Protestant / Calvinist issue was just solved 1817. Brandenburg/Prussia should be Calvinist state with a huge Protestant majority. Phps.
On that note, might I suggest adding a decision for Prussia to create the "Prussian Union of Churches" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Union_of_Churches). I don't know exactly how this would translate into in-game effects though.