EU4 - Development Diary - 24th of March 2020

[PurpulaPhoenixum53]

3) Are non european nations like Kongo, Ming and Japan now also able to get cardinals and become Curia controller?

Also in this vein, can nations outside of Europe gain Cardinals naturally through the stadard process, and if not then could they, but with a lower chance(for being RoTW)

 

[cleon422bc]

Sounds nice. I cannot wait!

 

[Pbhuh]

How will these features affect the 30 years war and Dutch Revolt?

 

[adin85]

[QUOTE="Huldunguldlu, post: 26398227, member: 1158648"
- allow crusades against heretics in one of the harsh Council of Trient concessions
- add like 5% morale or 10% Inf combat ability to the proclaim holy war thing
- give one of the Council of Trient concessions an effect where Catholic nations which are at war with heretics get a morale bonus
- add a military bonus for all Catholics in the Crusade golden bull
- add a new curia action to buy, which is only available if you are at war with a heathen or a heretic, that gives morale or ICA[/QUOTE]

10% inf ability is little illogical. I would put 5% fire and shock damage

 

[Atilla 'The Hun']

Now playing as a Christian Japan is going to be even more fun

 

[Lightwell]

Immensa Aeterni Dei
-10% Institution Embracement cost
+25% Institution Spread
Cardinals will spread institution if the institution has been embraced in a province of another Cardinal or the capital of the Curia(Rome).

Big question: Will we be seeing cardinals outside of Europe?

 

[MutantPenguin]

Big question: Will we be seeing cardinals outside of Europe?

Dev response earlier in the thread says we will only see this if the Papal Controller appoints them directly. I would guess the AI would not be likely to do this?

 

[Sete]

Well the lack of proper military buffs for Catholics is disapointing.

Treaty of tordesilas did not apply only to the new world.

 

[Pbhuh]

Well the lack of proper military buffs for Catholics is disapointing.

Treaty of tordesilas did not apply only to the new world.

Plus im pretty sure it was a treaty to settle the dispute between Portugal and Spain. Not France or any other country.

 

[Sete]

Plus im pretty sure it was a treaty to settle the dispute between Portugal and Spain. Not France or any other country.

I meant about the areas of influence. It was just not the new world. For example africa and asia was part of Portugal "area" of exploration and conquest, that's why there was some conflicts over the moluccas islands.

 

[Zak Preston]

@Johan the changes are excellent for SP, I really like them. However you haven't solved the main problem of any MP game: everyone switches to Protestant or Reformed simply because they add significant military boosts, and Poland simply converts to Orthodoxy for the same reason. This is a huge railroad, a no-brainer choice for vast majority of MP community, which can't be classified as a good game design feature.
In MP everything is decided on the field of battle. Any religion that has no substantial military bonuses is a gimped gimmick: Confucian, Catholic, Anglican are simply avoided.

• I've seen players on Ming switching from Confucian to Vajrayana
• None ever takes Anglican
• Everyone except Papacy quits Catholicism as soon as Reformation hits.

There are two possible fixes:

• simple: add some military modifiers to Catholicism, Anglican and Confucian
• complex: make military modifiers less relevant in the grand scheme of things. For example buff diplomatic or trade metagame.

 

[Pbhuh]

I meant about the areas of influence. It was just not the new world. For example africa and asia was part of Portugal "area" of exploration and conquest, that's why there was some conflicts over the moluccas islands.

Indeed, but on top of that, it seems to not work very historically.

It should most likely be a decision between Spain and Portugal where they can get it sanctioned by the Pope, while perhaps the Pope can sanction other colonial areas to powers by decree, aka, just a button on colonial regions.

 

[Nyrael]

Big question: Will we be seeing cardinals outside of Europe?

3. Yes, but not from the automatic system. The Pope has to directly give it to them.

 

[love sweden]

Outside of achievenments I still see 0 reasons to stay as Catholic and hope I get Curia atleast 40% of the time when I can go protestant or orthodox and get superior bonuses consistently.

 

[MAROQ]

@Groogy
Hello, Italy gets missions with Etiopia, can you make small upgrade for Etiopia's ideas? India gets (in dharma) powerhouses 10% fire dmg, morale and now Coptic is trash compare to Ortodox, Protestant, Muslim and reworked Catholic.
Small upgrade like 10% morale (Etiopia's ideas) or more army buffs for them will help to be playable this region in multiplayer At least Butua has best ideas in Africa

 

[Semi-Lobster]

The big question will be if the AI will know what to do with these new mechanics? The Reformation in EUIV as it is right now is an unstoppable force for the AI where you end up with Protestant Naples and the only place that stays Catholic is Spain since the Reformation is hardcoded to end at the Pyrenees. The AI just has no way of dealing with the Reformation, especially with the religious zeal province modifier. Weakening centres of reformation might be a good start though.

 

[SemirDahak]

Is there a way for a Papal Controller to influence that Harsh/Concilliatory stance of other rulers? How does AI choose that stance?

 

[DominusNovus]

First Concession
Heresy Trials (Harsh) +1% Heretic Missionary Strength
Secret Confessions (Conciliatory) +2 Tolerance of Heretics

Second Concession
Roman Catechism (Harsh) +10% True Faith Institution Spread
Non-Latin Bible (Conciliatory) +5% Institution Spread

Third Concession
Soldiers of Christ (Harsh) +10% Manpower in True Faith
Rescinding Celibacy (Conciliatory) +5% Manpower

Fourth Concession
Catholic Mysticism (Harsh) -10% Warscore Cost vs Other Religions
Sola Fide (Conciliatory) -20% Curia Power Cost

I'd like to make a small suggestion. I don't know what 'Catholic Mysticism' is supposed to mean, but if it in opposition to 'Sola Fide' then I would suggest that 'Catholic Magisterium' is a better name.

 

[RiccoBaldo]

Release date pleeeeease

 

[Sete]

Heres something:
Dum Diversas (English: Until different) is a papal bull issued on 18 June 1452 by Pope Nicholas V. It authorized Afonso V of Portugal to conquer Saracens and pagans and consign them to "perpetual servitude".

Just add some sort of military buff vs heathens and heretics and a production bonus due slaves.

Historical background.

In mid-fifteenth-century Portugal, the ideals of chivalric honor and crusading were seen as the path for ambition and success. During the reign of Afonso V, the Portuguese nobility enjoyed great influence and prestige, and for several decades the house of Bragança was the wealthiest and most influential force in the kingdom. In 1415 the wisdom and justice of an attack on Morocco had to be seriously weighed, but during the reign of Afonso V and for the century following, "such enterprises were accepted as self-justifying crusades for religion, chivalry, and honor".

The raids and attacks of the Reconquista created captives on both sides, who were either ransomed or sold as slaves. The Portuguese crown extended this to North Africa. After the attack on Ceuta, the king sought papal recognition of it as a crusade. Similarly, after the 1441 attack on Mauretania, the crown again sought after the fact, papal acknowledgement that this was part of a just conflict. Such a determination would then indicate that those captured could legitimately be sold as slaves.