EU4 - Development Diary - 28th January 2016

[stipe]

We can try to do actual modern provinces with all borders from today or it's impossible ?

No, no, no. All that i wrote there is historical correct provinces and it's borders. Paradoxs is using some todays borders and i'm strong against it. Thats why I wrote all that.

 

[Haydar]

I know it's not big thing but since you get in with recreation of borders I have some complains. Hope you will consider it

Slavonia
Historical Croatian 'Kingdom of Slavonia' was consisted of today two parts, Slavonia and Srijem(Syrmia) and was situated between rivers of Sava, Drava and Danube.
So you should cut of part of Bacs.

I think they don't want Slavonia to border Serbia for gameplay reasons.

 

[grommile]

I think they don't want Slavonia to border Serbia for gameplay reasons.

Eh? Slavonia province does border Serbia.

 

[loup99]

We can try to do actual modern provinces with all borders from today or it's impossible ?

No thanks, that would be awful. Also, I don't see why you are suggesting modern day borders, or at least, could you add some argumentation?

 

[Golladan]

Eh? Slavonia province does border Serbia.

I notice that people have a tendency to confuse Slavonia with Slovenia. That might be the case here.

 

[Haydar]

Eh? Slavonia province does border Serbia.

This is how it is as of 1.15.. and they change it on 1.16.

The post I quoted suggests against the change. Please chack above.

 

[Sukramo]

This dev Diary kinda destroys my will to play EU4. Why should I play this when in two months I could have new stuff and cool British Isles? Yes, we all know new content comes, but the current version should feel new, fresh and the best there is. This information makes the current game feel....unfinished. Too soon to reveal this info guys.

 

[Moac]

I know, I know. I have made threads on this and it has been discussed to no end.
However, while you are at it, Changing Hungarian internal borders and all.
Maybe its time for Croatia to be in personal union with Hungary?
Most scholars agree that it was a personal union , heck, let Croatia only have two lower two provinces ; Lika and Zagreb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia_in_the_union_with_Hungary

Moreover, the border of Slavonia should include Srijem, or make the Srijem region its own province? Croatian lands extended historically to Zemun ( in Srijem).
Let Bacs end at the River and have Srijem as its own province, looks better on the map.

 

[stipe]

Hi guys.
I see that that my post make some misunderstanding so here is the map.

 

[stipe]

I know, I know. I have made threads on this and it has been discussed to no end.
However, while you are at it, Changing Hungarian internal borders and all.
Maybe its time for Croatia to be in personal union with Hungary?
Most scholars agree that it was a personal union , heck, let Croatia only have two lower two provinces ; Lika and Zagreb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia_in_the_union_with_Hungary

Moreover, the border of Slavonia should include Srijem, or make the Srijem region its own province? Croatian lands extended historically to Zemun ( in Srijem).
Let Bacs end at the River and have Srijem as its own province, looks better on the map.

Yes.
I totaly agree with you, and it's historicaly correct. But I don't know what effect would it have on a gameplay.
Croatia was under Hungary only throu king but ih has been ruled by 'duke' (Ban) not by king directly.
It would be great that there is PU of Hungary and Croatia

 

[Trin Tragula]

A separated Syrmia province would simply be too small. Thats why its not in.
Fun fact: with the exception of when the Swahili states were added the Balkans/south East europe is actually the only region that has gotten new provinces every time the map has been updated.

 

[Kvesir]

So according to Paradox, now:

• Turkish = Arabic
• Lithuanian = Estonian
• Hungarian = Romanian
• Finnish = Swedish
• Welsh = English
• Lower Scottish = English
• Slovak = Hungarian
• Karelian = Russian

Thanks a lot, Paradox.

 

[Trin Tragula]

So according to Paradox, now:

• Turkish = Arabic
• Lithuanian = Estonian
• Hungarian = Romanian
• Finnish = Swedish
• Welsh = English
• Lower Scottish = English
• Slovak = Hungarian

Thanks a lot, Paradox.

Actually none of that is true in the game. They're all separate cultures within a common culture group (none of the culture groups use the names you listed though). If you think everything inside a culture group is the same thing then you might as well say that the game consider Swedish = Danish or Castilian = Portuguese in 1.15.

 

[Kapitalisti]

So according to Paradox, now:

• Turkish = Arabic
• Lithuanian = Estonian
• Hungarian = Romanian
• Finnish = Swedish
• Welsh = English
• Lower Scottish = English
• Slovak = Hungarian
• Karelian = Russian

Thanks a lot, Paradox.

That's a pretty talented way to deliberately misunderstand -and represent the change. Bravo.

 

[DmUa]

A separated Syrmia province would simply be too small. Thats why its not in.
Fun fact: with the exception of when the Swahili states were added the Balkans/south East europe is actually the only region that has gotten new provinces every time the map has been updated.

- well, isnt this is because western europe was already pretty detailed in comparison with... err... non western europe?

 

[Moac]

A separated Syrmia province would simply be too small. Thats why its not in.
Fun fact: with the exception of when the Swahili states were added the Balkans/south East europe is actually the only region that has gotten new provinces every time the map has been updated.

I can see that, It is a rather small province. Given that the Eastern parts of Europe are not nearly as detailed as Western Europe , it would take longer to make any major changes.

However, I would like to ask you about the Croatia In personal union under Hungary suggestion. Is it something that you guys would consider?
As mentioned , Croatia had its own Ban ruling in Croatian lands , maybe not in all of them.

 

[stipe]

A separated Syrmia province would simply be too small. Thats why its not in.
Fun fact: with the exception of when the Swahili states were added the Balkans/south East europe is actually the only region that has gotten new provinces every time the map has been updated.

Hi. Can I get some answers about border fixes that I sugested. Tnx

 

[Atridij]

Actually none of that is true in the game. They're all separate cultures within a common culture group (none of the culture groups use the names you listed though). If you think everything inside a culture group is the same thing then you might as well say that the game consider Swedish = Danish or Castilian = Portuguese in 1.15.

Trin buddy, is there a chance that you will ever add the Bosnian culture? Pretty pls.

 

[Atridij]

I can see that, It is a rather small province. Given that the Eastern parts of Europe are not nearly as detailed as Western Europe , it would take longer to make any major changes.

However, I would like to ask you about the Croatia In personal union under Hungary suggestion. Is it something that you guys would consider?
As mentioned , Croatia had its own Ban ruling in Croatian lands , maybe not in all of them.

This, the Croats should be in PU under Hungary.

 

[PhelanBavaria]

I'm very happy about the Ireland changes, but if you truly want to make it by culture rather than language, then you should put the people around the Alps in a culture group. Bavarians are much closer to North Italians than to Prussians.
Also, I think you should split the Austrian culture into Austrian, Tirolian, Carinthian and Styrian, at least add Tirolian.