EU4 - Development Diary - 2nd of October 2018

[Tercio117]

There is a Galician Culture, Tag and Ideas, just check it m8

Oh crap I’ll go check it out, I always wanted to do a Galician one faith, one culture world conquest.
I did it once with Leon and Leonese culture

 

[Naranjito]

1- I ask about 4 times of development Spain vs Portugal
I say that between 1450-1600 could be 6 or 7 times

2- Portugal did not invade Spain in the civil war. They arrived at Toro (frontier), a great battle was made (for the time) and they returned home. And I repeat again, Juana had many supports in Castilla and some powerful.

3- Spain did not give any terrain in the Atlantic, it only had part of the Canary Islands. Portugal retained its own, including Ceuta.

4- If in the peace treaty there was a tax to be paid, Castilla paid little for Aragon.

5- Evidently invading at that time was very expensive. Spain bled economically in the Netherlands. Neither Portugal nor coña could do it in Spain, and Spain in Portugal, without the support of Portuguese nobles either.

6- Even Felipe II when "invaded" Portugal, was with 60,000 men to Portugal. If the majority of nobles in Portugal had opposed his right of succession, it would have been very complicated, but they accepted him.

7- Portugal in the game is usually done with the majority of Morocco (something that did not happen) and is enriched in America.
He is not weak.

8 - If you want to eat in Spain, aliate with France.

 

[TheRipper69-PT]

I really doubt that Portugal was really that superior, given the comparing quantity of the territories that both countries colonised in the Americas. Everyone knows that the Treaty of Tordesillas gave both countries his own expansion zones, but wouldn't have a "Stronger than Castile" Portugal simply get more, by the treaty being addapted to his strenght or simply taking the ladn by force?

Naples is simply too far from Iberia to help Spain in his war, and if what u said is right and Portugal had naval superiority, i don't se how will they able to help. And don't even count Aragon, with his furious nobility because the PU i can see perfectly them trying to sabotage the Castile-Aragonese union. And don't forget that Portugal was supported by France and by Spanish nobles contrary to Isabella. Frankly speakin i don't see how Castile would win in such a situation.

By the way stop trying ti make us feel like Portugal was and is superior to Spain. Its like u trying to get only Portugal developed.

Portugal was not superior not even comparing with castille, but for sure it was not 6 times weaker.

France participation was a 0 on castillian succession war. The same as Naples but having a vassal helps your treasure in case of need.
Aragon was very committed to the war effort, but Portugal war chest was obviously bigger. (Gold from guinea)

Ultimately, castille gave guinea possessions /claims to portugal and portugal gave up on canarias claim.

The issue here is not that portugal was more powerful than castille but should start way more powerful than it starts right now...