EU4 - Development Diary - 4th of December 2018

[McManama]

Too much hard achivments, and too few easy ones. Each time You are creating 10 new achivments I feal there is no ballance. There should be 1-2 I or VH oneas, 1-2 Hard ones, and the reast should be VE, E, and Medium. But overall good job this is nice Imersion Pack, that I would like to have, but also won't miss If I will deacide not to have it right away.

 

[Dunya]

I wouldn't really call us inland seas focused. We never really had galleys and kept doing well with heavy ships.

I honestly don't know much about Dannish naval warfare in the 15th to 17th centuries, so i was assuming a lot (but obviousoy not all) of its feats were in the Baltic Sea.
I apologise if i was wrong.

To be fair, the in game devision of galleys for inland and heavies for open seas is not fully historical. Heavies were better overall.

For example, in the conquest of constantinople (1453) the ottomans built a lot of galleys. At a point, 50 galleys traped 3 venitian ships (more equivalent to in-game heavies). The venitians managed to fend them off. The advantage of galleys was that they were cheaper and had rows (faster when there no wind, but worse at everything if there's wind). The ottomans eventually managed to get more christian naval tech.

My point is: it's perfectly possible for a nation to have success in inland seas while having actually using heavies

 

[Wagonlitz]

My point is: it's perfectly possible for a nation to have success in inland seas while having actually using heavies

Ah. I would say we had success outside of inland seas, though. since we also were strong along the coast of Norway, in the North Sea, and between Norway and Denmark, which all are considered not inland sea in game.

Not sure if we ever had any naval battles further away than that, though, but that's more down to how we never really got that many colonies than to the quality of our navy. And at least as late as 1797 we still were strong enough to win a naval battle off the coast of Tripoli (our trade ships operating in the eastern med had been harassed, so we decided to do something about that).
Though most battles were in what the game would call inland seas, but that's not really due to being subpar, but more due to how we spent most of our resources during the game's time frame fighting Sweden and hence most naval battles naturally ended up being in the southern baltic.

 

[Bandua_of_Gallaecia]

A lot of things were in the Baltic Sea, yes, but that's due to many naval battles being centered in and around Sjælland. But that doesn't mean that the fleet was galleys or in other ways unsuited for fighting on the high seas, and at least as late as the 1860s we won a big naval battle on the high seas and also had some really scary high seas ships, though our time as a big naval power ended when the Brits stole the navy in 1801. Not sure about how competitive we were in the 1700s, since from 1720 (end of the Great Nordic War) until 1801 we weren't really at war aside from a couple small skirmishes with the Swedes. Which was why I thought that 1600 or alternatively 1660 was a more fair cutoff. Plus, the Royal Navy of the 1700s/1800s it never was. But we did use to sink any fleet we opposed.

We cannot give too much importance to the name of the ship type, galley is basically "inland sea combat ship" regardless of what kind of ship it is.
For example Portugal used the largest and heaviest ships for trade not "Light Ships", but you have to build light ships for trade anyway.

 

[Bandua_of_Gallaecia]

Heavies were better overall

I think heavies are better overall in inland seas as well.
Galleys are simply much cheaper and thus more cost effective.

 

[hajutze]

Too much hard achivments, and too few easy ones. Each time You are creating 10 new achivments I feal there is no ballance. There should be 1-2 I or VH oneas, 1-2 Hard ones, and the reast should be VE, E, and Medium. But overall good job this is nice Imersion Pack, that I would like to have, but also won't miss If I will deacide not to have it right away.

Can it really be called an achievement if it's easy ...

 

[lordspain]

The true is out there ... would said Felipe II, Carlos I and V, Conde-Duque de Olivares, Blas de Lezo, Hernán Cortés, Pizarro, every Spanish Tercio, Antonio Barceló, Álvaro de Bazán, Don Juan de Austria, Juan Sebastián el Cano, ... I hope that this fantastic game be respectful with the history, the real history.

Later we will made our own history in each game !!!

 

[Shoo]

Being portuguese I was so excited for this Iberian dlc, to make things fun, especially for an area where both countries managed to form a long lasting legacy and two massive empires.
There's so much they could've done, so many plot twists, historical events, so many great achievements, cool concepts like "Feitorias" , the spanish inquisition, the map of the peninsula could've been so great too, I feel like they alienated us Iberians, especially us portuguese, "Spanish" update, focused on pirates, not a single update achievement for us and just a few more buttons to click, we only received one more province, we deserved at least as many as Aragon, Ireland has so many and they didn't form the 10th largest colonial empire, no changes to the national ideas, pretty much I'll be getting a new button to click for Portugal, a decision to move to Brazil and a anachronistic province.

Just feels so disappointing, I really love paradox and really wish this dlc was different, I'll probably get it but won't be with the same excitment..
I'm happy paradox is at least aware there was a lack of communication and would love to see a bit of transparecy regarding the game's roadmap and future updates, It's an amazing game and hope it will continue to improve in a substancial way.

This post might get deleted for flaming or whatever but I'm going to say it anyway, companies mainly look at sales for when deciding their future plans, if you don't want more content like GC then the worst thing you could possibly do is to buy GC, vote with your wallet as they say

 

[korawit13]

Thank you for listen to the customers and thank you admits or mods for trying to respond for us all. I hope you have a good weekend. Thank you listen to my grievance. Many beginner like Spain because it is easy and border with Muslim nation which it is easy conquest without ottoman allies. The tip for everyone is restart until you get friendly relationship with the alliance you wants. LoL

 

[Xdevo]

If you do not think the mechanics as they are now (I assume there's nothing worth note to add between now and the 11th) are worth buying, do not buy the DLC.
Paradox does not care with what level of excitement you buy the DLC; they do not care that you're buying it with the hope that the money will go to improving the dlc; they do not care that you think this is the exception. They don't have psychics going out to buyers and giving the emotions that they buy the product with. They see metascores and sales. They've said before, they put little stock in metascores. So most of the input they're going to get on a DLC / DLC policy is their sales numbers. If you do not like the DLC (size, content, whatever) and buy it anyway, you are telling Paradox that you liked it full stop.

If you keep telling Paradox everything is fine, they're going to continue on track. That's the nature of a business.

 

[edalen]

I like the "Complete entire mission tree" achievement been doing that with various indian nations as well that have extensive mission trees. Makes for a nice achievement run IMHO where you always have a next goal and not just one really big goal for the campaign.

So +1 for more of those achievements.