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EU4 - Development Diary - 5th of March 2019

Good morning. As was foretold, I am back to talk about our thoughts on overhauling the map of the Balkans for the big end-of-year European update. Once again I’ll begin with a disclaimer that everything here is very much subject to change as we continue to listen to feedback and iterate on our own ideas throughout the year.

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Behold: the Balkans in patch 1.4. And for reference, here are the Balkans as they are now, in patch 1.28:

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The big change here is simply “more provinces”. Albania has been split up substantially, we have more Aegean Islands, and provinces density in Bulgaria is higher.

There is still, in my opinion, plenty of room for new provinces in Greece and Bulgaria. For the mainland we want to achieve a similar level of density as we see in Anatolia. One of the most obvious things we can do is split the Yanya province by adding Arta, one of the last Epirote cities to fall to the Ottomans. The return of the Epirus tag in 1444 heralds another change: the removal of the Corfu tag, at least in 1444. In the game right now, Corfu is a vassal of Venice and ruled by monarchs who were in fact the independent rulers of the Despotate of Epirus. This will change.

Other possibilities include a province that would more accurately reflect the Ottoman-Moldavian border in Silistria/Basarabia, a further split in the Aegean between Scio and Lesbos, and a separate province centered on the city of Tarnovo in Bulgaria.

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This suggestion by Mingmung, and others very much like it, show a step in the right direction. Beyond what I’ve already mentioned, I like the idea of splitting Cephalonia from the Corfu province to add a little tactical depth to Epirus, as well as the addition of Corinth in the south. We are however unlikely to add extra provinces on Cyprus or Crete: outside of very large islands like Sardinia and Sicily we prefer to keep such places restrained to single provinces.

Moving north-west, there’s a lot that could be done in Serbia, Bosnia, and the Dalmatian coast. There’s room for a few more provinces of course, though not quite so many as we might need further south.

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This very aesthetically pleasing suggestion by ootats has a lot going for it. Representing Herzegovina/the Duchy of Saint Sava as a Bosnian vassal in 1444 is an interesting possibility. It also puts the province density on a level similar to that of Hungary, which I feel is a good target to aim for in the region. It is however unlikely that we’ll be adding both the Venetian provinces of Scutari and Cataro.

We’ve been reading your comments on the previous dev diary, and they’ve provoked a lot of discussion on Team Content Design. One of the results of these discussions is that we’re more open to a Como province that would split away from the northern part of what is now Milan. When the time comes for implementation it's certainly something we're willing to try out.

And that's all for today! Next week I invite you to join me on a wild ride through the confusing nightmarish mess that was Early Modern Germany. Until then, I look forward to more of your comments and suggestions.
 
Add the Bosnian culture already, I mean there is Transilvanyan culture why not Bosnian? That annoys me a lot... Also if possible add some sort of heresy flavour to Bosnia, in form of events if you already don't want to add the heresy itself. And if you are so much against adding a Bosnian culture, I have no idea why though, but if you are then atleast add the possibility of a Bosnian culture appearing via an event or something. Thank you...
Because Bosnian culture didn't exist in 1444 (like Macedonian culture didn't exist then). Bosnian was name given to people living in geographical area of Bosnia - banate/kingdom of Bosnia who were Croats and Serbs. However it would be nice to have some flavor with heresy and Bogomilism.
 
Are these map changes final, or just showing us the ideas they have?
 
Are these map changes final, or just showing us the ideas they have?
Ideas; they're just posting community-suggestions and their own thoughts on stuff.
 
I cant keep calm.

IM FROM THE BALKANS
While I'm not from the Balkans myself, I agree with your standpoint wholeheartedly!

Really curious what the results will be!
 
Because Bosnian culture didn't exist in 1444 (like Macedonian culture didn't exist then). Bosnian was name given to people living in geographical area of Bosnia - banate/kingdom of Bosnia who were Croats and Serbs. However it would be nice to have some flavor with heresy and Bogomilism.

I see you are an expert on Bosnian culture. What makes a culture distinct? Language? Religion? Customs? As far as I know Bosnia has all of those seperate from Serbia and Croatia. Bosnian culture could be more distinct from Croat and Serb than either of those are distinct from eachother, especialy because of the religion itself.
 
While I'm not from the Balkans myself, I agree with your standpoint wholeheartedly!

Really curious what the results will be!

The devs working on stuff are highly competent (edit: and no im not subtly hinting at myself). The results will be bombastic, im sure of it.

The only question is: WILL THEY FIX THE UGLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY VIDIN
 
Could somebody please fix Dulkadir (Area) and Panama (Area). Urfa (2308) and Darien (2819) are the only Provinces not on the same Kontinent as the rest of their area.
Panama is especially strange as it say Region Columbia / Subkontinent South Amerika / Kontinent NORTH AMERIKA (except Darien (2819).
 
Could somebody please fix Dulkadir (Area) and Panama (Area). Urfa (2308) and Darien (2819) are the only Provinces not on the same Kontinent as the rest of their area.
Panama is especially strange as it say Region Columbia / Subkontinent South Amerika / Kontinent NORTH AMERIKA (except Darien (2819).

Go to bugs forum sub section and report that there...

Makes it much more likely that it will be fixed.

This is not a good place for bug reporting.
 
The devs working on stuff are highly competent (edit: and no im not subtly hinting at myself). The results will be bombastic, im sure of it.

The only question is: WILL THEY FIX THE UGLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY VIDIN
Not sure if you're sarcastic or not, but I'm willing to believe you when we see good results down the line. ;)

I remember the thread about Vidin; it was quite a debate whether it should border Hungary or not.
 
New Serbian ideas suggestion:

Traditions:
+10% Infantry Combat Ability
+15% Manpower Recovery Speed
1. Code of Laws
-0.10 Yearly Corruption
2. Bastion of Orthodoxy
+2 Tolerance of the True Faith
3. Serbian Hussars
-10% Cavalry Cost +15% Cavalry Combat Ability
4. Emperor of Serbs and Greeks
-15% Core Creation Cost
5. Gold Mines
+10% Goods Produced, -0.05% Yearly Inflation Reduction
6. Serbian Nationalism
+1 Attrition for Enemies
7. Hadjuks
+15% Morale of Armies
Ambition:
+5% Discipline

If anyone is interested in the reasoning behind any of these ideas, let me know and I'll do my best to answer based on my <limited> knowledge of Serbia. I'm not Serbian, but I am a fan of the country, so please don't accuse me of nationalism...
 
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Not sure if you're sarcastic or not, but I'm willing to believe you when we see good results down the line. ;)

Im not sarcastic; i have 100% full confidence in neondt that the results will be great.

New Serbian ideas suggestion:

Traditions:
+10% Infantry Combat
+15% Manpower Recovery Speed
1. Code of Laws
-0.10 Yearly Corruption
2. Bastion of Orthodoxy
+2 Tolerance of the True Faith
3. Serbian Hussars
-10% Cavalry Cost +15% Cavalry Combat Ability
4. Emperor of Serbs and Greeks
-15% Core Creation Cost
5. Gold Mines
+10% Goods Produced, -0.05% Yearly Inflation Reduction
6. Serbian Nationalism
+1 Attrition for Enemies
7. Hadjuks
+15% Morale of Armies
Ambition:
+5% Discipline

If anyone is interested in the reasoning behind any of these ideas, let me know and I'll do my best to answer based on my <limited> knowledge of Serbia. I'm not Serbian, but I am a fan of the country, so please don't accuse me of nationalism...

Oi.

Who do you think you are to suggest changes to my idea set?!?!?

:p
 
However it would be nice to have some flavor with heresy and Bogomilism.
Oh boy. That reminds me of that huge thread on the Bosnian church and why it was so different to anything else that it should be included in the game. It was many years ago (might even have been in EU3 days), but I still remember how big of a trainwreck that became, though it also had a lot of good discussion and before it got derailed I thought there was quite a good case being made for having some kind of religious specialty for the area.
 
Im not sarcastic; i have 100% full confidence in neondt that the results will be great.



Oi.

Who do you think you are to suggest changes to my idea set?!?!?

:p
I hope so, and your comment gives me more hope. I was letdown quite a bit with the way Iberia and Poland/Romania were rewritten. So, I'm still a bit sceptical, but I like what I see thus far.
 
Oi.

Who do you think you are to suggest changes to my idea set?!?!?

:p

Srbija Stronk. Make Srbija Stronker pls.

Besides, most of these suggested changes are still rooted in the original Serbian ideas, with just a few changes here and there to update Serbia to match the power creep of some of the newer ideas.

(Even though I already did finish my Lazarus run, I would be interested in playing Serbia again in 1.29)
 
As stated this to be a massive European update along with movement to 64 bit platform:
1. will it still be EU4 1.29.x.x
OR
2. EU5
The question rather is 1.29 or 2.0.
Though, I don't know if Johan still has put down that bar on upgrading the version number to 2.0.