EU4 - Development Diary - 7th April 2016

[FleetingRain]

What was the Regicide event?

 

[IHateThisCo]

Aaaaaawwww.....

I thought that was one of the good things that was added. Sad to see it go away. I guess next time I get a 12 year regency I can go make a snack and watch a show again.

 

[grandadmiralbob]

What was the Regicide event?

An event where someone would kill your king and you would get an insult CB on them.

 

[Freudia]

An event where someone would kill your king and you would get an insult CB on them.

What.

That sounds awesome as an actual mechanic and not a random event. Why is that not part of the espionage overhaul?

 

[Kwami]

What.

That sounds awesome as an actual mechanic and not a random event. Why is that not part of the espionage overhaul?

It was. If you had 100 spy network in another nation, then you could get the event. But, there are enough regency council generators. Let's not add more.

 

[Freudia]

It was. If you had 100 spy network in another nation, then you could get the event. But, there are enough regency council generators. Let's not add more.

Something like that would actually get me to take the espionage group, but otherwise yeah, agreed.

Could have just made regency councils not utter horseshit though. That'd be the more sane approach.

 

[Kwami]

Good luck with that.

 

[Atlantians]

This would go against the way they want you to play MRs I think (aka only taking centers of trade and very high value provinces which are spread out across a lot of areas).

How is limiting this by limiting states not a better way of doing it than having a hard cap on provinces?

 

[Simoleum]

A lot of great fixes. Sad to see that the culture complaints are not listened to though

 

[Atlantians]

3 states or 15 provinces in states is the exact same thing.

@Johan , 20 provinces is a very small number.

How about instead of tanking republican tradition, you link it to Estates and state maintenance?

So:
Merchant Republics:
Over 20 provinces, any province given to Nobility or the Clergy grants far more influence.

Additionally, the maintenance of states over 20 provinces goes up for every province in a state over 20.

Better just to remove corruption since there are already multiple often stacked mechanics in place that punish the player for everything corruption does, at the very least stop having unbalanced tech - also known as playing outside of Europe - cause corruption.

Having your military far outpacing and out performing your administration is a cesspool for corruption.

I agree that the penalty should be reduced, though, and should only apply to Military tech being multiple techs above admin, but not both admin and diplo.

 

[Milith]

How is limiting this by limiting states not a better way of doing it than having a hard cap on provinces?

Because apart from some exceptions (those two neighboring provinces in Aragon, Pegu, Bengal Delta and I believe one state in eastern China), every center of trade/estuary is in its own state. If you're supposed to go for every high trade province, limiting the number of states is way more penalizing than limiting the number of provinces.

 

[Hikuran]

No Regicide? Nooooooo!! It was so much fun of it!

And when will Burgundian Independence event being fixed? It trigger the wrong one "Netherlands Revolters call on foreign help"

 

[Atlantians]

Yes.

I don't know who sneaked that in.

@DDRJake.

 

[brifbates]

@Johan , 20 provinces is a very small number.

How about instead of tanking republican tradition, you link it to Estates and state maintenance?

So:
Merchant Republics:
Over 20 provinces, any province given to Nobility or the Clergy grants far more influence.

Additionally, the maintenance of states over 20 provinces goes up for every province in a state over 20.

Uhm, merchant republics don't have estates so that option is obvious fail. Also, monetary penalties tend not to be real effective against MRs and that is before considering the added income potential of the trade leagues if you are playing with Mare Nostrum. An RT penalty is the obvious and most effective way to dis-incentivize behavior for a merchant republic.

 

[M Bird]

So when are you going to fix chinese tech Zaporozhie??

 

[generalolaf]

Sadly no, as it was a bug in the valid check that is at the start of the game.

Crap. Seriously? I just won my first war with England -_-

 

[abcdgh]

why don't add a decision for MR to convert to normal republic?
why don't fix the burgundy_retain_independent event trigger bug(should trigger event flavor_BUR_21, but trigger flavor_BUR_20)

 

[Atlantians]

Uhm, merchant republics don't have estates so that option is obvious fail.

Oops, I had made so many suggestions on how to add Estates to Merchant Republics that I eventually forgot they didn't have them!

Also, monetary penalties tend not to be real effective against MRs and that is before considering the added income potential of the trade leagues if you are playing with Mare Nostrum. An RT penalty is the obvious and most effective way to dis-incentivize behavior for a merchant republic.

How is a RT penalty the obvious way?

 

[brifbates]

How is a RT penalty the obvious way?

1) effectiveness-the threat is real (so to speak) as RT penalties and the risk of government collapse are something anyone playing a MR will be aware of as it is a game-changing occurrence if not planned.

2) From a realism standpoint it makes sense. More and more territory means bigger problems getting everyone voting in a timely fashion thus leaving more and more effective power in the apparatus and less in the people (see current USA and that is with vastly better communications systems). Ideally it would be limited more by distance/travel time but there's no method in-game to apply effects that way.

 

[Basterbane]

1) effectiveness-the threat is real (so to speak) as RT penalties and the risk of government collapse are something anyone playing a MR will be aware of as it is a game-changing occurrence if not planned.

2) From a realism standpoint it makes sense. More and more territory means bigger problems getting everyone voting in a timely fashion thus leaving more and more effective power in the apparatus and less in the people (see current USA and that is with vastly better communications systems). Ideally it would be limited more by distance/travel time but there's no method in-game to apply effects that way.

Merchant Republics government collapse should be a disaster. You trigger it by being on low RT and having more states than limit allows. Otherwise even on 0 RT and being under the limit would not force government form change. MR wont suddenly vanish leaving Trade League nations for dead.
If however disaster would activate you get decisions to reform society into either monarchy or other form of republic with some small penalty. Disaster would be just a place holder to unlock decisions and would provide same penalties you now get as MR going over the province limit.