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Welcome to another development diary about Europa Universalis. Now we are very close to the announcement of the new expansion that we aim to release in June... If Frö smiles upon us....

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We have switched around what we will talk about in the development diaries for now, so today we’ll instead talk about Peace!

But first of all, lets talk about a feature that is something that some have requested..

Return Province!
Sometimes you have taken a province that is the core of a rival, or someone who do not want to buy the province, or even talk to you as you are so evil.. Not that we would ever be warmongering-alliance-breaking-world-conquerers..


Now you can just return the province to any state that has it as a core. You will lose some Agressive Expansion and prestige, but it will definitely reduce the chance of them attacking you in the short-term.


Peace Overhaul

This is obviously something that is in the accomanying patch.

First of all, we removed the treaty called annex.




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Well, instead we are now able to target every province an enemy own, so taking all provinces is an annexation.

You will also always be able to demand the capital in a peace treaty, and you also do not need to occupy territory to demand it in peace, however unoccupied territory is more expensive to claim.

Revoking cores will no longer cost diplomatic power.

Diplomatic Power Cost, War Score Costs and Prestige gain for each province now scale with the province’s development, instead of being fixed costs.

Overextension and Agressive Expansion also looks at development instead of base tax.

And finally, you’ll be able to demand gold even while “annexing”.

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I got a little bit excited when I saw "peace overhaul", but it was just about war after all.

(Sure, these still seem like good improvements.)
 
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This is going to be exploited:

It's going to be used to get provinces you normally can't reach, often as a way to get a foothold on an island.
Example: France doesn't have to deal with allying Scotland, and can instead just demand a province in Great Britain and start the next war with a doomstack present there...

So it could be something like this: Thirteen Colonies DOW French Louisiana. GB destroys French fleet, sends some troops to support. Warscore is obviously 100% and in peace deal GB takes Ile-de-France.
Quite absurd.
The more I think about this, the less I like the idea.
 
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So it could be something like this: Thirteen Colonies DOW French Louisiana. GB destroys French fleet, sends some troops to support. Warscore is obviously 100% and in peace deal GB takes Ile-de-France.
Quite absurd.
The more I think about this, the less I like the idea.

And would probably then be stuck with 80% OE from a single province that it cannot possibly core or something...:)
But yeah its a good question about possible balancing issues of warscore scaling etc...
 
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So it could be something like this: Thirteen Colonies DOW French Louisiana. GB destroys French fleet, sends some troops to support. Warscore is obviously 100% and in peace deal GB takes Ile-de-France.
Quite absurd.
The more I think about this, the less I like the idea.

How would you get 100% warscore on France for destroying their fleet? Bearing in mind that by that point Ile-de-France (or from the screenshot how it's now known: Paris) will be quite expensive given the expected increased development levels.
 
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I'm worry about situation when someone crash for example GB in Asia or whatever and then take land on their island as foothold for further expansions.

Or you could take capital of really big empire (is it gonna be neccesary to have connection to that province?) which is imho an absurd situation. Ok, you beat Ottos after they take Balkans and Mameluks or who knows what else, good work, but I don't think you should be able to take Istanbul without even capturing it.
 
Excellent changes. I also spot what appears to be the fort icon in the map!

A shame there appears to be no new provinces in France/Southern England, I guess I will have to hope a future expansion adds more provinces in France/England/Lithuania and fixes the borders that still need improvements.

As for the new loading screen: Are those mountains the Alps, by chance? Is it referencing the Italian wars?

I may be wrong but haven't they combined Ile-de-France with another province to form Paris, or did that happen in a previous patch/DLC?
 
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How would you get 100% warscore on France for destroying their fleet? Bearing in mind that by that point Ile-de-France (or from the screenshot how it's now known: Paris) will be quite expensive given the expected increased development levels.

You will have 100% warscore if you occupy all provinces for 5 years IIRC. France can't make move in this case and now you can demand their provinces.
I hope I'm wrong though.
 
I have two questions:
1) Will we now be able to "fully annex" (since that's no longer a term we're using?) a state with say two provinces and you want to give those provinces to a vassal? Previously you couldn't give the capital unless it was the only province left, I believe.

2) Will unoccupied provinces give more AE?
 
You will have 100% warscore if you occupy all provinces for 5 years IIRC. France can't make move in this case and now you can demand their provinces.
I hope I'm wrong though.

France becomes warleader though as she is the suzerain overlord of her colonies. So one would have to fully occupy the BBB, not some random CN on the other side of the globe.
 
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Awesome changes. Cannot wait
 
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I don't like that if you succeed at defending your provinces but loose the battles, you can still be asked for 60+ WS worth. If a country can't occupy lands, it shouldn't be able to enforce its control over it in peace deal. Not really asking as a way to abuse the AI, as I've been both able to limit land concessions as well as being denied it. I'm also a bit worried about what the AI will ask for in peace deal now it can ask for anything from start, as it's a bit greedy and stubborn already, but I'll have to wait and see how it goes.

The rest sounds nice though; it felt so wrong to spend 200 DIP for four 1 BT provinces while Constantinople was 50 DIP...
 
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