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EU4 - Development Diary - 9th of October 2018

Welcome all to today’s dev diary, where I’ll be covering the long-awaited Iberian and North African map update coming in the 1.28 ‘Spain’ update.

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Nations released for the sake of example


As things currently stand, though as always things are subject to change before release, Iberia consists of 571 development over 63 provinces. This includes the Macaronesia area but now excludes Labourd, which has been returned to the French region.

In Aragon, the distinction between the Kingdom of Aragon, the Kingdom of Valencia, and the Principality of Catalonia has become more pronounced. Tarragona is now rightly in the Catalonia area, and the province of Valencia has been split so that Castello and Xativa have become separate provinces. Valencia itself has the potential to be a very rich city indeed, as the player’s actions can lead to it becoming a major producer of silk. The three major Balearic Islands have become provinces in and of themselves, linked together by a strait and comprising their own Area.

Likewise, Galicia has seen itself grow from 1 province to 4, and now has an Area all to itself.

Portugal and Granada have been gifted one additional province each: Aveiro and Malaga respectively.

Last but not least, many citizens of Navarra are looking a little confused as they wonder where their coastline has gone. Wedged between major powers and with no immediate means of escape over the ocean, Navarra will be a very challenging nation in 1.28.

New releasable nations:

Valencia: The Kingdom of Valencia was a major constituent part of the Crown of Aragon in 1444. In 1.28 the former kingdom of El Cid will be a releasable nation.

Asturias: The Kingdom of Asturias ceased to exist long before our start date, but it nicely fills the absence of releasable nations in the region.

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I’ve also taken another look at North Africa. Here we can see several new provinces along the coast, including those belonging to new nations that can emerge during the game.

The province of Demnate allows a route through the Atlas mountains; a convenient shortcut and potentially a deadly choke-point.

The Canary Islands have been split between Gran Canaria and Tenerife to represent the somewhat incomplete Castilian conquest and colonization of the islands.

For the masochists among you who play as Granada, they now have a core on the province on Ceuta.

New releasable nations:

Salé and Tétouan: Home to some of the most infamous Barbary Pirates, these nations will be releasable in 1444, and may emerge dynamically in the course of the game in the style of Habsan.

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Finally, I’ve made some minor changes to the eastern Maghreb. The province of Kairwan has been added for Tunis, and the addition of Sabha has allowed a more aesthetic redrawing of Fezzan’s borders.

That’s all for today. Next week, @Groogy will reveal some of the new features coming in the as yet unnamed Immersion pack to be released alongside 1.28.
 
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I have to disagree with this. Galician traditional names were the ones used largely by the Galician population until recently, and if we want real traditional names, we should use Crunia for example (and not Coruña) as I said before.
Spain doesn't exist at year 1444, there was a Crown of Castile composed of distinct kingdoms (kingdom of Castile, kingdom of Galicia, kingdom of León...) each of them with their own feudal institutions. I could accept "hispanicized" names in the game if the culture of the Galician provinces changes from Galician to Castilian, that would make sense.

Also I was talking about toponyms, nothing more. In my country, people who usually brings "Galician nationalists" to justify its positions about linguistics tends to be actually Spanish nationalists themselves...
Yes. Everyone was saying Crunia until the Spanish nationalists showed up and suddenly everyone started saying Coruña. Galician nationalists are the ones who like to pretend that any existence of Spanish in Galicia is a new and imposed development, when names like Orense and La Coruña have been used in Spanish for many centuries.

The fact that the way EU4 treats localised place names in game is such an issue for some in the case of Galicia shows how much of an anomalous position this is. All around the world people understand that each language has names for some places different from others. The same way there are exonyms in Galician for all sorts of places. It's not such a big deal.
 
Yes. Everyone was saying Crunia until the Spanish nationalists showed up and suddenly everyone started saying Coruña. Galician nationalists are the ones who like to pretend that any existence of Spanish in Galicia is a new and imposed development, when names like Orense and La Coruña have been used in Spanish for many centuries.

The fact that the way EU4 treats localised place names in game is such an issue for some in the case of Galicia shows how much of an anomalous position this is. All around the world people understand that each language has names for some places different from others. The same way there are exonyms in Galician for all sorts of places. It's not such a big deal.

Yes, they are imposed exonyms. Noone in Galicia would use them if Castillian wasn't imposed. That's why it's a touchy point.
 
Yes, they are imposed exonyms. Noone in Galicia would use them if Castillian wasn't imposed. That's why it's a touchy point.
They would be imposed if anyone was being forced to use them. Are Galician speakers that say Moscova or Bruxelas imposing these exonyms on the inhabitants of these cities?
 
Cool Flag! Gotta love that old blue instead of the non fitting purple of the actual one.
I'm sure Majorca will come with it's own unit skins and glorious ideas, right? Maybe one idea that reduces a little bit the dev. Increasing to counter the 'coastline' terrain malus? Or naval-trade focused ones

At least they have +1 Merchant in their traditions ;)

Nice work guys!
 
Great news! This looks more realistic now, even the small detail of the Canary Islands, I was missing the Castillian colonization of the other islands on the early game (for historical accuracy) which were successfully colonized/conquested in 1477. Regarding Catalonia, Galicia and other territories, now it is more geographically accurate (sad for Navarra cannot into sea). Looking forward to play patch 28!
 
Welcome all to today’s dev diary, where I’ll be covering the long-awaited Iberian and North African map update coming in the 1.28 ‘Spain’ update.

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Nations released for the sake of example


As things currently stand, though as always things are subject to change before release, Iberia consists of 571 development over 63 provinces. This includes the Macaronesia area but now excludes Labourd, which has been returned to the French region.

In Aragon, the distinction between the Kingdom of Aragon, the Kingdom of Valencia, and the Principality of Catalonia has become more pronounced. Tarragona is now rightly in the Catalonia area, and the province of Valencia has been split so that Castello and Xativa have become separate provinces. Valencia itself has the potential to be a very rich city indeed, as the player’s actions can lead to it becoming a major producer of silk. The three major Balearic Islands have become provinces in and of themselves, linked together by a strait and comprising their own Area.

Likewise, Galicia has seen itself grow from 1 province to 4, and now has an Area all to itself.

Portugal and Granada have been gifted one additional province each: Aveiro and Malaga respectively.

Last but not least, many citizens of Navarra are looking a little confused as they wonder where their coastline has gone. Wedged between major powers and with no immediate means of escape over the ocean, Navarra will be a very challenging nation in 1.28.

New releasable nations:

Valencia: The Kingdom of Valencia was a major constituent part of the Crown of Aragon in 1444. In 1.28 the former kingdom of El Cid will be a releasable nation.

Asturias: The Kingdom of Asturias ceased to exist long before our start date, but it nicely fills the absence of releasable nations in the region.

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I’ve also taken another look at North Africa. Here we can see several new provinces along the coast, including those belonging to new nations that can emerge during the game.

The province of Demnate allows a route through the Atlas mountains; a convenient shortcut and potentially a deadly choke-point.

The Canary Islands have been split between Gran Canaria and Tenerife to represent the somewhat incomplete Castilian conquest and colonization of the islands.

For the masochists among you who play as Granada, they now have a core on the province on Ceuta.

New releasable nations:

Salé and Tétouan: Home to some of the most infamous Barbary Pirates, these nations will be releasable in 1444, and may emerge dynamically in the course of the game in the style of Habsan.

View attachment 409271

Finally, I’ve made some minor changes to the eastern Maghreb. The province of Kairwan has been added for Tunis, and the addition of Sabha has allowed a more aesthetic redrawing of Fezzan’s borders.

That’s all for today. Next week, @Groogy will reveal some of the new features coming in the as yet unnamed Immersion pack to be released alongside 1.28.
As Aragonese and spanish i am disturbed with some errors in this patch the Marks of Lerida and Tortosa were from the Kingdom of Aragon i am glad that paradox had put Lerida as Aragonese but they put Lerida in Zaragoza province land instead in real Lerida Tortosa was part of Aragon but you include Tortosa as part of Tarragona
 

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Is that last post serious?
 
Still impatiently waiting for an update to the rest of Iberia and the Maghreb on the basis of yesterday's feedback.
 
As Aragonese and spanish i am disturbed with some errors in this patch the Marks of Lerida and Tortosa were from the Kingdom of Aragon i am glad that paradox had put Lerida as Aragonese but they put Lerida in Zaragoza province land instead in real Lerida Tortosa was part of Aragon but you include Tortosa as part of Tarragona

In the start of the game all Catalonia, Valencia and Majorca will belong to Aragon, they've just shown the releasable nations. Lleida (Urgel province) and Tortosa (Tarragona) have Catalan culture and they should belong to Catalonia still.
 
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