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@podcat asked me to prepare a Dev Diary from a Project Lead perspective...
Quick background on me: I came on as Project Lead for HOI4 shortly after the game was released, last summer. That’s my perspective. I speak from a expansion-development point of view, and our work going forward.

The purpose of today’s Dev Diary is to give you a little insight into our development process.
Why we fix some bugs and leave others... How we decide what goes into the next expansion... and more.


Imagine, if you will, a crowded bar
Imagine all the customers screaming out their orders at once, to a single hard-working bartender.


How many words do you think the bartender will be able to make out, over the collected noise of the crowd?
How many drink orders do you think he will he be able to get right?

If you answered “none”, you’d probably be close to the truth.

My job, if I’d been working in that bar, would be to to organize a queue-system that works.
To move things along and make sure that people get what they want, as quickly as possible.

As project lead at Paradox; it’s my job to make sure that our players get what they want.
Best possible value in the game, within the shortest possible amount of time.

Here is a super condensed version of how the team and I go about making this happen.


The Design Process
First, within the team; the designer speaks for the players. They’re the one that decide what the team should do.
(Game director @podcat and game designer @Pallidum , in our case.
Continuing with the bar analogy; they’re the people who have a feel for the market and decide what goes on the drinks menu.)

New content to keep players engaged and happy... Weaknesses in the game that needs to be addressed... A balanced mix of all that good stuff is collected together in a “design document”.

The document explains the vision for each new feature, or fix, that goes with a new expansion. It essentially serves as a specification, or commission for work to be done, for the team.


How do we decide what new features and fixes go into an expansion?
The designers base their decisions on what goes into the design document, on, for example:
  • Do the features fit into the overall theme of the expansion?
    (This also goes for bugfixes where we prefer to work by theme. For example Air or Naval).
  • Do we hit a good mix of paid features and free features?
    (A lot of this is decided on how difficult things are to implement and their impact on the game’s balance.)
  • Data we collect on player behavior.
    That data is analyzed and lead to new features or fixes.
  • We have a database full of suggested improvements.
  • Not to mention bugs that we prioritize and work off, in priority order.
  • We also closely monitor mainly this forum, and (to a lesser degree) other HOI-communities, in case something pops up. Both bugs or inspired posts in the suggestion forum.

lumbergh-hawaiian-shirt.gif

(For the love of God, YES! We saw the forum bug report.)


How do we choose which bugs to fix? (A bug’s journey from the bug forum to being fixed)

As I mentioned; we have a big database with bugs, improvement ideas and feature-suggestions.
(Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to our database.)

A lot of entries in this database, however, are related to the same underlying system. Doing an overhaul on that system will get rid of a whole bunch of bugs. These are things we prioritize.

A bug often starts out coming onto our radar by being reported, here, in our bug forum.
(I really want to stress this point, because we occasionally see people posting bug reports on reddit or other places. The odds of someone from Paradox stumbling over those reports and carrying them forward into our database are slim.)

The bug is transferred from here into our database. And we start looking into it, by analyzing it.
We need to know how frequent the problem is. How serious, and how quick it is to fix.
The more frequent or serious it is increases its chances of getting fixed. Soon.
If it also happens to be quick to fix… well, that’s just a win-win.

yes_data.gif


If a bug is serious, frequent and quick to fix and it’s still not being fixed… The most likely explanation to why we’re not fixing it ; is because we simply couldn’t fit it into our schedule.

It might help to understand this, if you…

Think of the development process as a single work day...
Serious things you hear about, before lunch, will get fixed before the day is done. For sure.
Then you might work on something else, with lower priority, for a while.
Until the next big problem pops up.
But, by then, you can’t start on it. Because you can’t get it all the way done, before you have to go home. It’ll have to wait until the next day.
So, in order to not waste precious time, you squeeze in something else that will fit.

This is how our development cycles work. Sometimes we simply can’t start on something and get it fixed, or improved, before the expansion has to ship.
(This also illustrates how sometimes things with lower priority get done when some higher prio stuff are left for later.)


Difficult judgement calls
Other bugs or suggestions are more up for debate.
Doing something that will make one group of people leap for joy - might seriously anger another group. We have to stay on top of that.


The big time-stealers
Not to mention that some requests, like improving AI, is a perpetual job that can’t be rushed.

As obvious as it is that an area needs work; some things are like hatching an egg. It takes the time it takes. No matter how many bodies you throw on the problem.

vtSueQywDwn2U.gif

(Btw, this is how I imagine a Steam Summer Sale going. If Steam was a physical store.)


The Breakdown & Estimation process

Moving on: Once the design doc is complete… The team takes the design and breaks it down into bite-size tasks for coders, content designers, art, UX-design, sound etc.

When we have everything broken down into a list of tasks; we sit down together and “estimate” each task. Giving us an idea of how long the full feature will take to develop, once you add it all together.


How are deadlines and release-dates determined?
Paradox has a plan for how many expansions/DLCs we should release per year.

HOI4 release dates are determined based on: 1. that plan, 2. how quickly we can reach the desired sell-value of the release, and lastly 3. coordinated with specific dates that our marketing team have selected.
(More on this subject in next week’s Dev Diary.)


Can we make the expansion-design happen within the deadline?
After all features have been estimated; I can figure out if what we want to do is possible within the deadline. With the people at our disposal.

If yes: Huzzah!

If not: This is where I have to crush the designer’s hopes and dreams.

DHzBZxSU0AAQzXL.jpg

Splat!

We need to cut something in order to be able to finish on time.
This is something we discuss and agree on, together. While I gently pat their backs and hand them tissues.


What gets cut?
When cutting something I have to consider, for example:
  • The desirability and priority of the feature.
  • What people we have available.
    • How much, and what, each person can work on.
    • While not being blocked, or blocking, someone else.
  • What features tie into other features.
    (If there is anything independent enough to cut cleanly.)
Sometimes laying this complex puzzle, trying to fit high priority pieces together, is trickier than trying to nail jello to a wall. Things slip and change constantly. This is the very essence and nature of development work.

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In closing

Speaking of the nature of development work… While the example above mostly serves illustrate problems with communication, which is always a factor when people with different perspectives discuss something… I think it says something about how frequent certain development problems are; that a site exists where you can create your own project cartoon, like this one.

The issues that Paradox and HOI4 struggle with are the same problems that all IT projects, everywhere, grind their teeth over. It’s terribly complex work. Which is why, although the problems and risks are well known and can be anticipated and planned around, to a degree… they remain.

The silver lining, I think, is that while our problems are the same… we at Paradox have a hell of a lot of fun while working on them.

Next week, our Brand Manager will write a Dev Diary. Before handing the baton back to podcat.

Don't forget to tune into World War Wednesday today at 16:00CEST on https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive! To see podcat run Germany in massive co-op, with the other devs as generals.
 
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please
fix the event for germany getting their half of poland from russia using the MR pact if russia eats poland instead this patch
they get everything aside from the 2 provinces that poland nabs from czech and its been driving me insane and stopping me from doing a more peaceful germany game since you introduced it because i hate the russian having that land right there for no reason at all
please fix it
Are you saying about Zaolzie state? That was fixed at 1.4.1 as I know.
- Fix for Zalozie not being transfered if Soviet union honors MR pact
If it was not fixed at 1.4.2, I suggest you post new bug report.
 
@NC-Run
Maybe you see a different reality. Steam Ratings are in the positive by a huge margin. And the player base looks quite stable to me .... http://steamcharts.com/app/394360 . Looks more like that a lot of people who enjoyed the game from the start still enjoy it on a regular basis.

And that you played for thousands of hours in MP, that's nice for you. But maybe keep in mind that a huge amount of players don't give a shit how things play out in MP, because they never even started MP.

Yeah apparently I'm in a different reality. You're looking at the core game there, which again I said is fine and have played it for over 1k hours. If anything your own evidence discredits the main argument coming from the vocal minority on these forums: "fix AI rather than adding new features". Yes people reviewed the core game positively, but what about the expansions? Maybe take a look at that, 47% and 27% of positive reviews, pretty low!

As an experienced player in HOI4, I find it laughable that some people prefer to play against AI in this game and want the developers to improve it. Unfortunately this is not EU4. EU4s AI still does some dumb shit 6 years after release. HOI4 AI is very unlikely to ever become smart enough since this game is too complex for the AI.

Now your second argument is that the player base is stable. The playerbase isn't expanding, if anything it's slowly shrinking. HOI4 is paradox most complex game. It could become paradox best seller. But instead it's yet failing to outperform a 6 year old game from paradox. So to be honest with you, from a business perspective, I wouldn't call HOI4 a commercial sucess, mainly because of these expansions that have been disappointing and turned away many players.

So again, since you wanted to focus on steam reviews, if anything they incidicate that the core game is acceptable, but rather the expansions are bad in the eyes of the customers, so paradox should focus on improving HOI4 dlcs and make them more interesting, rather continuing to prioritize this vocal minority demands on the forums, which is basically spending years of development on AI that is unlikely to get anywhere close to "smart".
 
Very interesting, and a great read.

It's good for you to give us an insight into how you work, and helps us understand your struggles better. I appreciate you all for sharing this with us.

I know that on the forums and on reddit people give you a lot of flak, but it's clear that you've got a big workload and you're trying to do your best here. My advice-ignore the negativity and press on. Remember, us in the silent majority do enjoy what you've done. Although we've had some rough times here, I've got confidence that you'll do your best on the upcoming Second Sino-Japanese war/Pacific War + naval combat expansion.

Oh yeah, and @podcat...has anyone checked out the China National Focus mod on Steam as a potential example for what a Chinese expansion should be like? It's got everything I think you guys should include-a scorched earth mechanic, fixing Operation Zet, making non-aligned a viable ideology, chains of events that really fit with China's history, short but in-depth political focus trees...you should really use it as a model.
 
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Thanks for the post @KimchiViking, atleast now I know of a single person I can blame for issues since the game launch. I highly suggest PDS follow Ericsson's model in quality delivery, its surprising that both companies are in Sweden...completely opposite design approaches. Quality vs. TOD - fishbone that thought.
 
If we did this it would just be a repeat of the Romania dev diary, i.e. a complete meltdown.


Wow, I didn't know this and I work here! Thanks for letting us know!

I honestly think the Romania Dev Diary was much better than this one. You actually put in some meaningful content in there. Perhaps what you could do is merge the acknowledgment of direction that podcat posted last week and the content in the Romania diary.

Well if it isn't concerning the pacific theater you WILL have a "complete meltdown". Is it that hard to release small little tidbits of what you are working on like the screenshots of the new radar view on @podcat 's twitter? What even caused the disgruntlement of the Romania dev diary was ignoring the concerns of the players and keeping quiet on the bug wrangling. I don't see how keeping us in the dark for two weeks will make for a better situation.
 
I have one question.
Does it happen in Vanilla?

My guess would be that the answer to my question is the same as the answer to yours. Put another way, if it works correctly in Vanilla it isn't broken and the mods need to determine what they are doing that breaks it.

Vanilla is in tip top shape. Each of these mods change different things and are-para speaking- in bad shade
 
Correct me if I''m wrong, but that only happens if they sign the pact right? why wouldnt both sides honor the pact? or am I getting this wrong
no, what i mean is that russia signs the pact
russia then eats poland on its own
russia honors pact
germany does not receive part of poland that they should (the little bit of czech that poland gets when germany goes with taking the sudetenland, i believe it's called zaolzie)
i also apologize for my inability to use English evidently, its been a long week xD

Though someone says it was fixed at some point so i will double check to confirm at some point
 
Really interesting, I personally find things like this and the youtube channel 'Extra Credits' really interesting. As someone with a background in politics, understanding how things work behind the scenes also makes you a lot more sympathetic and less unreasonably entitled.
 
Perhaps we need a new plan.

bugs-bunnyWWII.jpg


:p
 
"Resistance is useless" is what the Vogon prison guard said to Arthur & Ford in the The Hitch Hiker's Guide... which I've quoted in this thread. It predates the Borg by a couple of decades. :p

Ah, well, I have never read that book... and I would imagine that is where the Star Trek writers got the reference from...
 
@podcat asked me to prepare a Dev Diary from a Project Lead perspective...
Quick background on me: I came on as Project Lead for HOI4 shortly after the game was released, last summer. That’s my perspective. I speak from a expansion-development point of view, and our work going forward.

The purpose of today’s Dev Diary is to give you a little insight into our development process.
Why we fix some bugs and leave others... How we decide what goes into the next expansion... and more.


Imagine, if you will, a crowded bar
Imagine all the customers screaming out their orders at once, to a single hard-working bartender.


How many words do you think the bartender will be able to make out, over the collected noise of the crowd?
How many drink orders do you think he will he be able to get right?

If you answered “none”, you’d probably be close to the truth.

My job, if I’d been working in that bar, would be to to organize a queue-system that works.
To move things along and make sure that people get what they want, as quickly as possible.

As project lead at Paradox; it’s my job to make sure that our players get what they want.
Best possible value in the game, within the shortest possible amount of time.

Here is a super condensed version of how the team and I go about making this happen.


The Design Process
First, within the team; the designer speaks for the players. They’re the one that decide what the team should do.
(Game director @podcat and game designer @Pallidum , in our case.
Continuing with the bar analogy; they’re the people who have a feel for the market and decide what goes on the drinks menu.)

New content to keep players engaged and happy... Weaknesses in the game that needs to be addressed... A balanced mix of all that good stuff is collected together in a “design document”.

The document explains the vision for each new feature, or fix, that goes with a new expansion. It essentially serves as a specification, or commission for work to be done, for the team.


How do we decide what new features and fixes go into an expansion?
The designers base their decisions on what goes into the design document, on, for example:
  • Do the features fit into the overall theme of the expansion?
    (This also goes for bugfixes where we prefer to work by theme. For example Air or Naval).
  • Do we hit a good mix of paid features and free features?
    (A lot of this is decided on how difficult things are to implement and their impact on the game’s balance.)
  • Data we collect on player behavior.
    That data is analyzed and lead to new features or fixes.
  • We have a database full of suggested improvements.
  • Not to mention bugs that we prioritize and work off, in priority order.
  • We also closely monitor mainly this forum, and (to a lesser degree) other HOI-communities, in case something pops up. Both bugs or inspired posts in the suggestion forum.

lumbergh-hawaiian-shirt.gif

(For the love of God, YES! We saw the forum bug report.)


How do we choose which bugs to fix? (A bug’s journey from the bug forum to being fixed)

As I mentioned; we have a big database with bugs, improvement ideas and feature-suggestions.
(Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to our database.)

A lot of entries in this database, however, are related to the same underlying system. Doing an overhaul on that system will get rid of a whole bunch of bugs. These are things we prioritize.

A bug often starts out coming onto our radar by being reported, here, in our bug forum.
(I really want to stress this point, because we occasionally see people posting bug reports on reddit or other places. The odds of someone from Paradox stumbling over those reports and carrying them forward into our database are slim.)

The bug is transferred from here into our database. And we start looking into it, by analyzing it.
We need to know how frequent the problem is. How serious, and how quick it is to fix.
The more frequent or serious it is increases its chances of getting fixed. Soon.
If it also happens to be quick to fix… well, that’s just a win-win.

yes_data.gif


If a bug is serious, frequent and quick to fix and it’s still not being fixed… The most likely explanation to why we’re not fixing it ; is because we simply couldn’t fit it into our schedule.

It might help to understand this, if you…

Think of the development process as a single work day...
Serious things you hear about, before lunch, will get fixed before the day is done. For sure.
Then you might work on something else, with lower priority, for a while.
Until the next big problem pops up.
But, by then, you can’t start on it. Because you can’t get it all the way done, before you have to go home. It’ll have to wait until the next day.
So, in order to not waste precious time, you squeeze in something else that will fit.

This is how our development cycles work. Sometimes we simply can’t start on something and get it fixed, or improved, before the expansion has to ship.
(This also illustrates how sometimes things with lower priority get done when some higher prio stuff are left for later.)


Difficult judgement calls
Other bugs or suggestions are more up for debate.
Doing something that will make one group of people leap for joy - might seriously anger another group. We have to stay on top of that.


The big time-stealers
Not to mention that some requests, like improving AI, is a perpetual job that can’t be rushed.

As obvious as it is that an area needs work; some things are like hatching an egg. It takes the time it takes. No matter how many bodies you throw on the problem.

vtSueQywDwn2U.gif

(Btw, this is how I imagine a Steam Summer Sale going. If Steam was a physical store.)


The Breakdown & Estimation process

Moving on: Once the design doc is complete… The team takes the design and breaks it down into bite-size tasks for coders, content designers, art, UX-design, sound etc.

When we have everything broken down into a list of tasks; we sit down together and “estimate” each task. Giving us an idea of how long the full feature will take to develop, once you add it all together.


How are deadlines and release-dates determined?
Paradox has a plan for how many expansions/DLCs we should release per year.

HOI4 release dates are determined based on: 1. that plan, 2. how quickly we can reach the desired sell-value of the release, and lastly 3. coordinated with specific dates that our marketing team have selected.
(More on this subject in next week’s Dev Diary.)


Can we make the expansion-design happen within the deadline?
After all features have been estimated; I can figure out if what we want to do is possible within the deadline. With the people at our disposal.

If yes: Huzzah!

If not: This is where I have to crush the designer’s hopes and dreams.

DHzBZxSU0AAQzXL.jpg

Splat!

We need to cut something in order to be able to finish on time.
This is something we discuss and agree on, together. While I gently pat their backs and hand them tissues.


What gets cut?
When cutting something I have to consider, for example:
  • The desirability and priority of the feature.
  • What people we have available.
    • How much, and what, each person can work on.
    • While not being blocked, or blocking, someone else.
  • What features tie into other features.
    (If there is anything independent enough to cut cleanly.)
Sometimes laying this complex puzzle, trying to fit high priority pieces together, is trickier than trying to nail jello to a wall. Things slip and change constantly. This is the very essence and nature of development work.

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In closing

Speaking of the nature of development work… While the example above mostly serves illustrate problems with communication, which is always a factor when people with different perspectives discuss something… I think it says something about how frequent certain development problems are; that a site exists where you can create your own project cartoon, like this one.

The issues that Paradox and HOI4 struggle with are the same problems that all IT projects, everywhere, grind their teeth over. It’s terribly complex work. Which is why, although the problems and risks are well known and can be anticipated and planned around, to a degree… they remain.

The silver lining, I think, is that while our problems are the same… we at Paradox have a hell of a lot of fun while working on them.

Next week, our Brand Manager will write a Dev Diary. Before handing the baton back to podcat.

Don't forget to tune into World War Wednesday today at 16:00CEST on https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive! To see podcat run Germany in massive co-op, with the other devs as generals.

I missed this dev diary :( Are you still online to answer any questions ?