Stellaris 4.0 "Phoenix Update" Free Features

[methegrate]

I'm pretty sure it's not unusual to store trade goods...

And I really like the shift to using trade as the Market resource. I feel like that's been long-coming and is a great change. Although, admittedly, I do think it would have been interesting to see this as a monthly capacity instead of a bankable resource. Especially since that's how they thematically describe it.

Like, instead of being able to save up trade as a resource, it represents the total logistical capacity of my empire. So, my 500 trade represents the 500 merchant vessels plying the stars. Maybe 80 of them are keeping the fleet supplied, and another 100 are busy delivering food to barren worlds. So each month I have 320 to bring resources from the global market.

That feels interesting. Like, would it force you into long-term planning? Each month, I spend that 320 capacity or lose it, so I have to anticipate potential needs. Or would it not make much difference?

Regardless! I'm excited about trade as the market resource. I think that's always been a great idea, and really has the potential to make small, trade-focused empires much more viable.

 

[Arkarnia]

Und ich finde die Umstellung auf den Handel als Marktressource sehr gut. Ich finde, das hat sich schon lange angebahnt und ist eine tolle Veränderung. Allerdings finde ich es zugegebenermaßen interessanter gewesen, dies als monatliche Kapazität statt als bankfähige Ressource zu sehen. Vor allem, da es thematisch so beschrieben wird.

Anstatt Handelsgüter als Ressource ansparen zu können, repräsentieren sie die gesamte logistische Kapazität meines Imperiums. Meine 500 Handelsgüter repräsentieren also die 500 Handelsschiffe, die die Sterne befahren. Etwa 80 davon versorgen die Flotte mit Nachschub, und weitere 100 sind damit beschäftigt, unfruchtbare Welten mit Lebensmitteln zu versorgen. Jeden Monat stehen mir also 320 zur Verfügung, um Ressourcen vom Weltmarkt zu holen.

Das klingt interessant. Würde es Sie zu einer langfristigen Planung zwingen? Jeden Monat verbrauche ich die Kapazität von 320 oder verliere sie, daher muss ich potenzielle Bedarfe vorhersehen. Oder würde es keinen großen Unterschied machen?

Egal! Ich bin begeistert vom Handel als Marktressource. Ich denke, das war schon immer eine großartige Idee und hat wirklich das Potenzial, kleine, handelsorientierte Imperien deutlich rentabler zu machen.

MrFreake_PDX Had you this in planing discussed for this 4.0 update? tade ships which not be a ship model rather only a statistic ship.

 

[Ilab]

Foes break (well, broke) the routes. That was half the point of the system, to allow you to blockade trade routes.

Not exactly, there is an error here, enemy fleets didn't break routes, only capturing the starbase did. So it was done once, and only once, it didn't affect daily calculations at all. You can easily check it by playing the 3.14 version and doing it with the console. As long as the starbase is ok, the route is not broken.

 

[Critical Ethics]

Not exactly, there is an error here, enemy fleets didn't break routes, only capturing the starbase did. So it was done once, and only once, it didn't affect daily calculations at all. You can easily check it by playing the 3.14 version and doing it with the console. As long as the starbase is ok, the route is not broken.

You are correct! I was mentally conflating entering the system with capturing the system. I still think the friend pathing is enough though because you've got two options: check every day to see if a friend is in the a system or check every time a ship enters a system to see if the system is a friendly trade route system. Similarly on the foe front moving the check to the handover would require a check every time there was a handover to confirm if it was a trade route system.

 

[FiddleSticks96]

There is definitely something wonky going on with defense armies. I have only see one AI controlled world with any armies on them and it was a homeworld. Not even primitive worlds have armies on them.

 

[Ilab]

You are correct! I was mentally conflating entering the system with capturing the system. I still think the friend pathing is enough though because you've got two options: check every day to see if a friend is in the a system or check every time a ship enters a system to see if the system is a friendly trade route system. Similarly on the foe front moving the check to the handover would require a check every time there was a handover to confirm if it was a trade route system.

Fair, though just a check for system entry shouldn't be that big of a problem perfomance wise IMO, similar checks are done all the time, it was the calculation from suppression and piracy increase the ones that made it very heavy on the perfomance. In any case, it is gone now sadly, so no much point dreaming about it. I will miss it a bit nut nothing too great.

 

[Robchis13]

While an update is nice - is there any way to stop it auto-updating (on steam)
New update wrecked the game i was in the middle of. New mechanics meant as soon as opened the game it said your empire is destroyed. As it was Ironman it then replaced the save so couldnt even rollback

 

[PeterM82]

Wow! Now we can play on 200 stars galaxy without any lags

Well, I tried the Phoenix update and the huge galaxy was still lagging (and I was cumulatively increasing my pop growth). They may have changed it since then, but I stopped playing when my robots weren't being produced properly.