Stellaris Dev Diary #155 - Origins

[Urloc the Great]

Tomb World FP are fun. I mean, you're missing the "gain unity from processing out enemy pops", but it's so worth it. SOOOOO WORTH IT.

I know, its like terraforming but faster and free!

Sure it has other disadventages, and just conquering would be more profitable, but not having to worry about conquered pops is a boon.

 

[Urloc the Great]

I love this, but I really don't understand why we're limited to just one origin. Why can a Post-Apocalyptic civilization not be Mechanics as well? Or Prosperous Unification?

Imagine a Lifeseeded Empire that nuked itself into a tomb world with nuclear powered robots.

I sure hope we can mod it so that we can get more than one origin.

 

[Methone]

No, you need Droid tech before they can colonise worlds iirc, though it has been a while since I played last.

... yeah, that's what i'm talking about?

 

[Ridixo]

A really great improvement, but could be used to add more personalized ways of playability. A post apocalyptic origin, for example, could add an ecology meter to the planets that implies benefits and harms. So that the game with post apocalyptics is something different and would reflect a thematic weakness of the empire.

Its not a bad idea, but that will only work in tomb worlds. A mechanic that only works in a handful of planets is not a good idea. It's like a tide mechanic for ocean planets that change the maintenance of buildings, for example, it adds a interesting twist but only for a select type of planets. Adding ecological mechanics to each and every planet will not be a good idea for the micromanagement that implies

While the stuff sounds great so far, just one thing did strike me a bit odd.

You better have something good for my Determined Exterminators as replacement.

Determined Exterminators will either be its own origin or civic so don't worry you perfect and superior robots can still the crush of that wimpy organics who try to destroy it

Is “diplomatic corps” in that screenshot a new civic, or do i just not remember it?

Yep, new civic
Since they take away the "origin" civics i suppose they will ad new ones to not hins the list

 

[PichuTrainer]

A Religious Caliphate could a be decent origin, could work hand in hand with the Fanatic Purifier or generally Fanatic Religious and Xenophobe empire.

 

[Zagreb 887]

Look guys, we get your point, we do, really.
BUT, you have said it on about every thread for month now, I'm not sure it needs to be repeated. And if does need to be repeated, one of you was more then enough for this thread. Thank you very much.

Aside from that, almost all we have seen here is work from the content designer team, not the programmers. Meaning that the content here has litteraly no impact onthe time devoted to performances improvement.

Maybe it's repeated endlessly because there is no real response from Pdx on this concerning topic from a while.
I'm agree with you, this new content seems great, but imho, there is no point for adding constant layers of new content until the game can realy be played without having to use tons of mods to make it (barely) work.

I think it's realy important communication to pay attention for players concerns and feedbacks, actualy, it's look like Pdx dosen't care for all this issues and just add DLC over DLC.

 

[Ridixo]

What the other new origins you think we will get?
I for one hope we get a Nomadic Empire finally. That is something people have been talking about since Stellaris came out and the origin system looks a nice place to add it. Tell me that having a huge spaceship for homeworld isn't a great and awesome thing

 

[CPR]

Btw, for the unplayable crowd in here, what exactly is unplayable? I have an i7 nvidea 1070m laptop which is just fine?

I have a recent max spec 15 inch MacBook Pro and on default settings I see a significant drop in performance by about 2270 - eg if I close the galaxy map, point the camera in the middle of nowhere and close the outliner I see a significant (50-100%) improvement in the time taken for a month to go by. By 2350 I'd typically seeing significant stutter and so on.

I could live with this if the game was fun by this point but generally I'd be well into repeatable techs and completed all traditions and so there's very little in the way of new things to do between one playthrough and another - the whole experience is very "samey". On top of this, the effort of managing all your pops and planets becomes very tedious. In short the game becomes boring.

If it was fun to play but slow I could probably live with it. If it was fast to play but boring I could probably at least have some limited fun by playing through various different empires to the end. But with the combination of slow, boring and tedious the whole experience becomes annoying and so I stop playing that particular game.

I'm still finding interesting things to try out for the first 100 or so years but I rarely play beyond that.

 

[PichuTrainer]

What the other new origins you think we will get?
I for one hope we get a Nomadic Empire finally. That is something people have been talking about since Stellaris came out and the origin system looks a nice place to add it. Tell me that having a huge spaceship for homeworld isn't a great and awesome thing

I can imagine a Settled Nomads Origin, though there would need to be someway to explain how they lost their tech, i.e they were exhiled or broke away.

 

[Ren Nobody]

Maybe it's repeated endlessly because there is no real response from Pdx on this concerning topic from a while.
I'm agree with you, this new content seems great, but imho, there is no point for adding constant layers of new content until the game can realy be played without having to use tons of mods to make it (barely) work.

I think it's realy important communication to pay attention for players concerns and feedbacks, actualy, it's look like Pdx dosen't care for all this issues and just add DLC over DLC.

Actually grekkuf had made a reply about it 2 dds back i think it was. And here people are still posting about every second respond, asking for a reply.

 

[AlazkanAssassin]

I can imagine a Settled Nomads Origin, though there would need to be someway to explain how they lost their tech, i.e they were exhiled or broke away.

Hmmm, what could that origin do for you? Other than just not label your staring planet as your home-world, thus only providing 80% habitability.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

I'm happy to see the new origin system, though I was hoping for a little more customization for it than just picking one thing. It would be nice if this was either folded into species customization or used a similar point system with upsides and downsides to determine our start (more/less resources, planets, features, teraforming candidate, etc.). Fixed maps like Sol and Danube would simply be another option on the list with their own point costs.

 

[Ridixo]

I can imagine a Settled Nomads Origin, though there would need to be someway to explain how they lost their tech, i.e they were exhiled or broke away.

That could be interesting but i was thinking more of still-in-space nomad empire, you know like: Battlestar Galactica, Knights of Sidonia, Homeworld and the Craftworld Eldar. Or yes, why not, the Vodyani from Endless Space 2. Basically we able to play as the old nomads event

 

[Zagreb 887]

Actually grekkuf had made a reply about it 2 dds back i think it was. And here people are still posting about every second respond, asking for a reply.

Never noticed it, my bad, what did he say in this DD? And yes people are still posting about it, because it's an important matter to just... I dont know... being able to play the game?

I'm fine with new content, i bought all DLC, but with the current state of the game it seem's concerning that it's done to fix it, and let us enjoy this new content

 

[KanadeSomeone]

I take it modders will be able to add custom Origins? Also, will these Origins come with special story events or something along those lines?

 

[PichuTrainer]

That could be interesting but i was thinking more of still-in-space nomad empire, you know like: Battlestar Galactica, Knights of Sidonia, Homeworld and the Craftworld Eldar. Or yes, why not, the Vodyani from Endless Space 2. Basically we able to play as the old nomads event

I don't think we'll be seeing playable space only empires outside of mods to be honest.

 

[Ridixo]

I don't think we'll be seeing playable space only empires outside of mods to be honest.

I agree with what you say but i still want to play Battllestellaris Galactica

 

[Gothbert]

Love this so much. Life-Seeded Megacorp would be so awesome. One planet challenge with Branch Offices for all your energy needs.

Ha. Life-seeded Devouring Swarm would also be an interesting origin story regarding what happened to the species original creators.

 

[PichuTrainer]

I agree with what you say but i still want to play Battllestellaris Galactica

Personally I'm more for Homeworlds style, massive motherships capable of building fleets of ships.

 

[Ridixo]

Personally I'm more for Homeworlds style, massive motherships capable of building fleets of ships.

Since a nomadic empire will surely not have starbases where do you think the new ships will be made?
In the homeship of course