Stellaris Dev Diary #171 - Federations Stream

[Shadowstrike]

March 17th.

 

[heliostellar]

March 17th.

St. Patrick's Day! Erin Go Bragh!

 

[Rabid Ice Weasel]

I was unable to watch the stream. I am assuming from skimming this thread that they didnt talk about AI or Crises?

They didn't talk about it but mentioned they'd have news on the topic in the near future, for what that's worth.

 

[mirco297]

Since this is most likely the last Dev Diary, I have to ask.

Why are the origins Mechanist, Life-Seeded, Shattered Ring and Apocalyptic not allowed to go with Agrarian Idyll?

 

[Pizzarugi]

Wow, Federations is 4 days after Path of Exile's Delirium league launches. I do hope those performance improvements mentioned last week are substantial, this might be a tough decision on what I want to invest my time in. :v

 

[Bankipriel]

Can we get an actual dev post that details everything covered in the stream?

Pretty please?

 

[Olterin]

(This post will be updated with more information during the day)

There were no updates to the post during the day and said day is coming to a close ... Would be nice to have a quick summary of the stream, or something.

 

[Abominus]

The only thing, that was really interesting: 17th of march is the release date. Thank you.

 

[eon47]

Don't mean to rush you, but any ETA on that update?

 

[RabbaDooDabba]

A question I want to raise is: @Eladrin (I believe it was him) mentioned on the stream (42:48) that when research sanctions are applied to an empire, "[...] no one is allowed to help [them] [...]".
Does that mean my empire would also be put under sanctions if I seal a research agreement with them or was that just fluff ?

 

[JagoTheFanaticalPurifier]

Show us how we may go about becoming the senate.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2005133153

Also, I would like to see the Juggernaut in action, and how it works.

 

[Noah Zwicky]

Is there any possibility to watch the stream later as I am not able to watch it in time?

 

[Crezeh]

Is there any possibility to watch the stream later as I am not able to watch it in time?

It's in their stream VODs, right here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/558681400

 

[TofuFox]

Since this is most likely the last Dev Diary, I have to ask.

Why are the origins Mechanist, Life-Seeded, Shattered Ring and Apocalyptic not allowed to go with Agrarian Idyll?

Life Seeded can go with Agrarian Idyll.
Shattered Ring (and Void Dwellers) do not use standard districts, which conflicts with the effects of Agrarian Idyll (which modifies districts).
Mechanist (and Syncretic Evolution) create separate, subservient species of worker pops, which contradicts the "worker life is best life" of Agrarian Idyll.
Post-Apocalyptic I guess they just think Agrarian Tomb World doesn't make any sense.

 

[Monturiol]

Aside from the constant work they did on performance that you can read in every patch note? That kind of 'nothing'?

Ah yes, all that "work" that actually produced no improvement at all, yes, very good.

Would be interesting to know if there has been anything like a "civil war" mechanic that been thought about, would love to have my very own "clone wars" within stellaris.

You do know we already have the Machine Uprising, right?
I mean, it's not very well implemented, but it does happen and it is challenging (if you choose to play as Skynet, which you always should).

 

[Monturiol]

Is the balance not already bad enough that it favours other empires over Hiveminds?

I keep trying to tell you, but you never listen, but Imma keep trying: IMBALANCE IS GOOD, NOT ALL EMPIRES SHOULD BE EQUALLY OP, STOP BRINGING YOUR ESPORTS STARCRAFT BALANCE FETISH INTO MY SINGLEPLAYER GRAND STRATEGY GAME.

 

[Methone]

I keep trying to tell you, but you never listen, but Imma keep trying: IMBALANCE IS GOOD, NOT ALL EMPIRES SHOULD BE EQUALLY OP, STOP BRINGING YOUR ESPORTS STARCRAFT BALANCE FETISH INTO MY SINGLEPLAYER GRAND STRATEGY GAME.

And we keep trying to tell you, that an excess of imbalance, like what we currently have, is not good. People REPEATEDLY say "It's fine for empires to not be exactly equal in minmax power, but what we have now is just ridiculous".

But of course it does keep going right over your head, doesn't it?

 

[Pointyearedgit]

Nice stream, thanks for sharing all of those details!

 

[Badesumofu]

Some imbalance is good. In particular where something feels OP but actually isn't, that is good. When some empire is so undertuned that playing it feels like a punishment - that is bad. No one is asking for Esports level balance here. It's fine for a challenge civic/origin to feel hard, but you shouldn't feel like you picked a challenge civic when you choose hivemind (or your favourite ethic, or whatever).

Surely we can handle more nuance than "any time someone talks about balance that must mean they want perfect Eports balance".

 

[FiddleSticks96]

Well, after seeing that performance, ethics shifting, and apparently even Hives are being addressed (according to @Eladrin's social media), I'm pretty happy about the whole update. If all goes as planned, I will be buying both Lithoids and Federations on launch day.

And we keep trying to tell you, that an excess of imbalance, like what we currently have, is not good. People REPEATEDLY say "It's fine for empires to not be exactly equal in minmax power, but what we have now is just ridiculous".

But of course it does keep going right over your head, doesn't it?

Do you see this? This is what you are doing.