Stellaris Dev Diary #359 - Stellaris 3.14.1 'Circinus' Preliminary Release Notes

[Abdulijubjub]

But not environmentalist. If breeding more Nemmas were restoring an ecosystem you'd damaged, it would be. But breeding more and shifting the ecosystem enough that it appreciably increases the effective size of the planet is more or less the opposite of the "nature preserve" vibe. It would fit well with the upcoming Beastmasters/Primal Calling things, though.

 

[jedavis]

Man, choosing to call the tradition "Archivism" instead of "Archival" is gonna bug me every time I see it.

Looking forward to the voidworm plague though, and auto-modding and random machine intelligence empires are exciting bugfixes.

 

[Ajacoba]

But not environmentalist. If breeding more Nemmas were restoring an ecosystem you'd damaged, it would be. But breeding more and shifting the ecosystem enough that it appreciably increases the effective size of the planet is more or less the opposite of the "nature preserve" vibe. It would fit well with the upcoming Beastmasters/Primal Calling things, though.

I always thought that each turtle is the size of a district

Kinda like the turtle in Mists of Pandaria, or the Onbu in Wandering Village, or the Elephant in One Piece

Sure, those things may be small compared to "planet divided by default district number" but stellaris is hardly consistent - for example the same colony ship can contain 1 to 3 colonists without any increase in the costs even

Also in the case of the turtles we are just creating more Islands because you can't just live in open waters (allegedly) - we hardly breed more than a handful anyways, hell, most of the time it caps at two and then keeps complaining about overpopulation

I don't think we majorly fuck up the eco-system, especially since we are clearly taking good enough care of them that they don't starve and sink to the bottom of the sea alongside our districts

 

[BrokenSky]

But not environmentalist. If breeding more Nemmas were restoring an ecosystem you'd damaged, it would be. But breeding more and shifting the ecosystem enough that it appreciably increases the effective size of the planet is more or less the opposite of the "nature preserve" vibe. It would fit well with the upcoming Beastmasters/Primal Calling things, though.

I mean that's fair actually.

Maybe it should be tied specifically to the 'do nothing' option?

 

[Tannhäuser Cake]

Speaking of Environmentalits and events, does the Migrating Forests Reserve do anything for Rangers?

 

[Abdulijubjub]

Speaking of Environmentalits and events, does the Migrating Forests Reserve do anything for Rangers?

Nope, though it's on the list of "things that definitely should interact with Rangers", for me.

 

[cryptkeeper]

But not environmentalist. If breeding more Nemmas were restoring an ecosystem you'd damaged, it would be. But breeding more and shifting the ecosystem enough that it appreciably increases the effective size of the planet is more or less the opposite of the "nature preserve" vibe. It would fit well with the upcoming Beastmasters/Primal Calling things, though.

Environmentalist should have special interaction with events like these though. Maybe make the planet much smaller and reduced building slots, at the expense of a great blocker that give bigger amounts of resources given that they are huge.

The fungus that makes your people go crazy, should also get special blocker that gives gas producing rangers.

I also think a new world designation should be made exclusively for Enviromentalists, a natural preserve world. Think holy world that you can build ranger lodges on and is filled with blockers and adds more random blockers based on world type, and has no pop growth other then migration to fill ranger jobs. This planet type increase ranger output by large amounts, that can be increased through elevation. Oh and crime/low stability creates poacher jobs xD

I'd also like to see a mega corp version of environmentalists called gaming authority or something. Instead makes game lodges and game reserves for trade value of exploiting natural resources for entertainment.... Could even have special Game preserve world designation, bonus trade value if you can make this on a titanic lifeform or dangerous lifeform planet.

 

[Abdulijubjub]

Environmentalist should have special interaction with events like these though. Maybe make the planet much smaller and reduced building slots, at the expense of a great blocker that give bigger amounts of resources given that they are huge.

The fungus that makes your people go crazy, should also get special blocker that gives gas producing rangers.

I also think a new world designation should be made exclusively for Enviromentalists, a natural preserve world. Think holy world that you can build ranger lodges on and is filled with blockers and adds more random blockers based on world type, and has no pop growth other then migration to fill ranger jobs. This planet type increase ranger output by large amounts, that can be increased through elevation. Oh and crime/low stability creates poacher jobs xD

I'd also like to see a mega corp version of environmentalists called gaming authority or something. Instead makes game lodges and game reserves for trade value of exploiting natural resources for entertainment.... Could even have special Game preserve world designation, bonus trade value if you can make this on a titanic lifeform or dangerous lifeform planet.

These would be nice, but keep in mind that any of this would have to go in a custodian patch at the expense of time spent on something else.

We're unlikely to even get new localization on existing events, much less entire new event options and civics (though one can dream).

 

[talented_progenitor]

Man, choosing to call the tradition "Archivism" instead of "Archival" is gonna bug me every time I see it.

"Archivism" is a noun, like "Supremacy", "Prosperity", and "Diplomacy". "Archival" is an adjective, like "Supremacist", "Prosperous", and "Diplomatic". The only tradition with a name in adjective form is "Mercantile", which for consistency could be "Mercantilism" if that didn't have a different specific meaning.

 

[Tannhäuser Cake]

The only tradition with a name in adjective form is "Mercantile", which for consistency could be "Mercantilism" if that didn't have a different specific meaning.

Unyielding...

 

[jedavis]

"Archivism" is a noun...

I would contend that it is a sufficiently rare and specialized word that it probably qualifies as jargon for particular academic fields rather than a word in common use. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=archivism,archival&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 I think there are probably a lot of academic jargon words that wouldn't make good tradition tree names even though they're nouns. The part of speech business doesn't bother me that much, as the tradition names aren't really used in sentences. Even among the least-common tradition names, "archivism" is an outlier in frequency of use by an order of magnitude.

 

[Abdulijubjub]

I would contend that it is a sufficiently rare and specialized word that it probably qualifies as jargon for particular academic fields rather than a word in common use. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=archivism,archival&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 I think there are probably a lot of academic jargon words that wouldn't make good tradition tree names even though they're nouns. The part of speech business doesn't bother me that much, as the tradition names aren't really used in sentences. Even among the least-common tradition names, "archivism" is an outlier in frequency of use by an order of magnitude.

Given that the word is actually in the dictionary, and not as newly coined slang, but as an extremely natural modification of the verb "to archive", I don't think there's a valid prescriptivist objection. And since Stellaris players probably have a IQ that's at least a bit above room temperate, I think they can figure out the meaning at a glance, even if they'd never heard it before.

It's fine.

 

[exi123]

Absolutely busy with playing Factorio at the moment but lovely to see that some new shiny content is waiting for me in Stellaris.

 

[Ajacoba]

Absolutely busy with playing Dwarf Fortress at the moment but lovely to see that some new shiny content is waiting for me in Stellaris.

 

[GKPecap]

Any opinion on how much the generic patch will affect mods current to 3.13.2 Vela.

 

[Ajacoba]

As a rule of thumb all mods die when a new patch drops

 

[Nyrael]

Any opinion on how much the generic patch will affect mods current to 3.13.2 Vela.

A lot.
The longer the patch notes, the more it breaks mods.
The more DLC or related patch changes existing stuff, the more breakable it is (and specimen will result in many events and anomalies being altered).
The Modding section of the patch notes is also pretty chunky and while this gives modders more stuff, it also alters how some stuff is written in the files so some mods will break.

But generally, assume that whenever a DLC releases, all your non-graphical mods are broken until updated or confirmed by someone to still work fine. Stellaris patches are always chunky, so the more mods you use the more days you will wait for your next big playthrough.

 

[Anarcomu]

Absolutely busy with playing Frostpunk II at the moment but lovely to see that some new shiny content is waiting for me in Stellaris.

 

[GKPecap]

A lot.
The longer the patch notes, the more it breaks mods.
The more DLC or related patch changes existing stuff, the more breakable it is (and specimen will result in many events and anomalies being altered).
The Modding section of the patch notes is also pretty chunky and while this gives modders more stuff, it also alters how some stuff is written in the files so some mods will break.

But generally, assume that whenever a DLC releases, all your non-graphical mods are broken until updated or confirmed by someone to still work fine. Stellaris patches are always chunky, so the more mods you use the more days you will wait for your next big playthrough.

Thanks for the feedback. I hadn't worked with Stellaris updated versions and have been playing Herbert 3.22 for a long time, but wanted try Vela out. This is where Irony Mod Manager and Playing Beta's are sound options, until the dust settles and the mods I like process the new stuff. The Archive material seems genuinely interesting.

 

[Gabarius]

When is this releasing today?