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Hey all!

Today’s topic will further explore the subjects of fleet movement, FTL-travel and the general wonders one might happen upon when ripping holes through subspace. As the writing of this is a bit sudden the dev diary came out late today, our apologies!
The galaxy is a pretty huge place and to get anywhere in a timely manner you’ll want to travel faster than the speed of light, or use FTL-travel for short. Stellaris will have three methods of FTL that players can use; Warp, Hyperlanes and Wormholes. They all have distinct advantages and disadvantages when it comes to the strategic movement of ships and fleets causing expansion paths, diplomacy and wars to be quite different depending on the method used.

Warp
Warp requires each ship in the fleet to be equipped with a Warp Drive. These are quite costly to build and cause a major drain on each ship’s available power, but allows unconstrained travel to any system within range. When travelling to a system outside the range of a single warp-jump, the fleet has to make a sequence of jumps through a number of systems. Any jump puts a considerable strain on a ship’s Warp Drive, causing the fleet to not be able to jump again for a short while after arrival. While this can be reduced by more advanced technology, it does remain a weak point throughout the game for any species using this method.
Fleets using Warp Drives to travel will need to do so at the edge of a system to lessen the gravitational pull of the local star. This in combination with the fact that warp-jumps have the slowest FTL-speed of the three methods means that the arrival point of an incoming warp-fleet can be identified, and possibly ambushed. The cost of freedom is potentially high!

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Wormhole
Some species have decided to sidestep this whole business of blasting through the void at ludicrous speed. They prefer to open up a temporary wormhole that a fleet may use to instantly travel to a distant system. These wormholes can only be generated by a Wormhole Station, a type of space station that can only be constructed on the outer edge of a system. Any fleet wanting to travel will have to use the Wormhole Station as a connecting point, passing through it whenever they leave the system. The station may only generate a single wormhole at a time, forcing all ships and fleets to wait while one is being prepared. The larger the fleet, the longer it takes for the Wormhole Station to be ready. The wormhole generated does allow two-way travel, but will collapse almost instantly after sending a fleet through.
Constructing and maintaining an efficient network of Wormhole Stations is vital to any species using wormholes, as it will allow sending huge fleets from one part of the galaxy to another in very short time. It also allows striking deep inside enemy territory with little warning. This great strength can also be a great weakness, as fleets are left with no means of further offense or retreat should the network be disabled through covert attacks by enemy strike-fleets.

Hyperdrive
The galaxy in Stellaris has a hidden network of hyperlanes connecting the systems, only visible for those who know where to look. Ships that are equipped with a Hyperdrive can access these lanes and use them to traverse the galaxy at incredible speed. They are however bound by the preexisting network, and has to path through each system connecting their current location and target. Galactic voids lacking systems are in effect huge movement-blockers for any species using hyperlanes, having few systems allowing possible crossings. An enemy could potentially fortify these vital systems should they become aware of their existence, creating strategic choke-points. As the hyperlanes exist in subspace, fleets may access them from anywhere within a system and does not have to travel from the gravitational edge as Warp Drives and Wormhole Stations do. As such, catching a fleet using hyperlanes can be tricky. Correctly identifying the paths to intercept and interrupt their somewhat long charge-up is probably your best bet.

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All methods of FTL-travel can be improved by researching more advanced technologies. While their exact effects differ some they all improve the speed, range, efficiency or cooldown of FTL-travel. However, being able to casually bend time and space with increased power does not necessarily mean using it with more responsibility. As additional species bend the laws of physics to send larger and larger fleets through the galaxy, there is always the risk of something, or someone, noticing...

Next week we’ll talk more about the different species in the galaxy. Look forward to it!
 
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Theoretical Physics is the field I was referring to. Mr. Engineering Physics. :cool:
Theoretical physics is a specialisation of engineering physics at my university. You may be able to get there from a philosophical bachelor too but no one ambitious does that.


How? What model or construct are you referring to?

Which Wormhole definition would dictate instantaneous travel or unlimited range?
I haven't heard of any explanaion of a wormhole where it would have a limited range. Then again Ive never seen any theories how a wormhole could be artificially created at all, tbut eh natural occuring one (again none have ever been proven to exist) should be completly random from any point to any point regardless of the relation between these points. And it doesn't seem to be a matter of energy at all, or infinite energy if you will. Wormholes are suggested to be the result of paradoxes (pun not intended) or impossible scenarios, or extreemly reletivistic phenomenon, like objects moving faster than the speed of light (note relativity only prohibits actually reaching the speed of light going faster is not impossible beyond it being impossible to accelerate through the speed of light) or at the event horizon of a blackhole.


Day After Tomorrow.

Inconvenient Truth: The Thriller!
No I think you mean "Strawman for global warming the movie", or "Dumbing down a serious issue to cheap entertainment and missunderstanding everything about it." The movie.
 
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I must say i am very pleasantly surprised by not even the diary, but by this thread. Considering what is always happening recently in various 4x games discussions i had expected anti-starlane riot starting in the first page. And total surprise, there is actually nice discussion here instead!
 
Yea, a planet very near a black hole would have some interesting properties.
Like no longer existing? A star goes supernova before becomming a black hole, do you know what that would do to any planets it used to have when that happens? Poof and they're gone.

I must say i am very pleasantly surprised by not even the diary, but by this thread. Considering what is always happening recently in various 4x games discussions i had expected anti-starlane riot starting in the first page. And total surprise, there is actually nice discussion here instead!

This has been a nice discussion? I'd hate to hear the tone in the threads you're used to.
 
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You could have a rogue planet captured by a black hole.
 
Like being pitch black and freezing cold?
I always thought the vicinity of a black hole is bright, hot and hammered with hard radiation because of the accretion disc orbiting the black hole.

I must say i am very pleasantly surprised by not even the diary, but by this thread. Considering what is always happening recently in various 4x games discussions i had expected anti-starlane riot starting in the first page. And total surprise, there is actually nice discussion here instead!
I like it too! Lot's of cool ideas are swirling around here! :)
 
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I always thought the vicinity of a black hole is bright, hot and hammered with hard radiation because of the accretion disc orbiting the black hole.

I like it too! Lot's of cool ideas are swirling around here! :)
You only get a visiable accretion disk if the blackhole is feeding of another star. And if you're in the accretion disk you have other problems, aside from that it's cold around a black hole simply because it no longer gives of any heat, so it's as cold as it would be on a rogue planet.
 
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This has been a nice discussion? I'd hate to hear the tone in the threads you're used to.

It's kinda hard to quote it because moderators are lurking, but to summarise them in one sentence:
"I hate the starlanes because reasons, so i just hate you, and i wont buy your game just because i hate the starlanes."

Edit: TheDungen - true, i personally like starlanes.
 
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It's kinda hard to quote it because moderator are lurking, but to summarise them in one sentence:
I hate the starlanes because reasons, so i just hate you, and i wont buy your game just because i hate the starlanes.
You should add some quotation marks to that.
 
I hate the starlanes because reasons, so i just hate you, and i wont buy your game just because i hate the starlanes

Starlanes are a bit overdone bit they are a very nice design in practice. Warp comes in as a close second. Luckly Paradox's wormhole system is new and fresh so that should keep the haters at bay.
 
Starlanes are a bit overdone bit they are a very nice design in practice. Warp comes in as a close second. Luckly Paradox's wormhole system is new and fresh so that should keep the haters at bay.
Grumble grumble
 
Theoretical physics is a specialisation of engineering physics at my university. You may be able to get there from a philosophical bachelor too but no one ambitious does that.

Whoa, seriously? I have never heard about something like that before. Could you give some link referring to that (preferably in english :p )?

I ask out of curiosity because I was one of those guys who read books of Kaku/Hawking/Susskind and thought 'I'll become a theoreticial physicist!' before realising 'don't be stupid, you never cared about physics, you are just interested in a philosophical aspect of few speculative theories'. Past myself would love this weird route philosophy->theoretical physics :p

Currently I am almost sure cognitive science is what truly and deeply interests me...
 
You only get a visiable accretion disk if the blackhole is feeding of another star. And if you're in the accretion disk you have other problems, aside from that it's cold around a black hole simply because it no longer gives of any heat, so it's as cold as it would be on a rogue planet.
Huh, I'm a bit confused then as to how many liberties the creators of Interstellar took when making a bunch of earthlike planets orbiting a massive dark hole which looks like it could support life. Ah, it's a movie, of course it doesn't count.
 
Huh, I'm a bit confused then as to how many liberties the creators of Interstellar took when making a bunch of earthlike planets orbiting a massive dark hole which looks like it could support life. Ah, it's a movie, of course it doesn't count.
Relatively few, actually. Sure, just putting planets around a BH isn't really natural, but they give quite an idea of how planets would be there. The great tidal forces on the closest planet would be quite accurate.
 
Whoa, seriously? I have never heard about something like that before. Could you give some link referring to that (preferably in english :p )?

I ask out of curiosity because I was one of those guys who read books of Kaku/Hawking/Susskind and thought 'I'll become a theoreticial physicist!' before realising 'don't be stupid, you never cared about physics, you are just interested in a philosophical aspect of few speculative theories'. Past myself would love this weird route philosophy->theoretical physics :p

Currently I am almost sure cognitive science is what truly and deeply interests me...
You do know that PhD mean philosiphie doctor right? And that's how I used the term in this case a philosophicla bachelor is really a pure science degree as opposed to an engineering one. Both paths are possible to take if you want a doctor in theoretical physics but the ambitious all go through the engineering route, simply because even if you don't finish the whole ph.d you'll still have a masters in engineering.

I'm sorry for not being clear it's sort of an inside joke we say all the time, until you no longer think about why you do it.

Huh, I'm a bit confused then as to how many liberties the creators of Interstellar took when making a bunch of earthlike planets orbiting a massive dark hole which looks like it could support life. Ah, it's a movie, of course it doesn't count.
You have a movie including timetravel and you're suprised it takes liberties with science?
 
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