[Cat Crusade]

Yep Civ V was a fun game

Hopefully there will be a limitation of some sort as I'd hate to see late game empires maxing out all or most of the trees every game. Hopefully the tradition acquisition cost will scale sufficiently (to make up for the empire growth) too since 2 points per month for one building when the cost is 40 per tradition is faster than alot of the techs you can research. Here's hoping we don't end up with the optimal strategy of making planets that are literally mausoleums, monuments and government buildings all over

 

[ross-g]

Hi @Wiz

Can you say if Banks will include more ways to interact diplomatically or not? "Flesh Tithe" says that it will let you demand slaves from subjects ... But I'd like to know if you're considering enabling us to enforce policy changes on vassals or allow them to colonise ... that sort of thing. Currently subjects are quite limited, so I hope this is something you're looking to expand on.

 

[Pyramid_Head]

There are other ways to gain unity as well, some ethos/tradition specific.

But the resource is universal. Or is there a discount? Like, Constantly purging xenos would make purity cheaper or constant wars make conquest cheaper?

 

[garyriley1982]

@Wiz

Will any of the traditions lock out other traditions? I couldn't imagine Harmony and Purity working together for example (outside of Beyond Earth that is!)

Good news though, I was wondering if Banks would be bringing anything like this. I'm assuming it's going through rigourious testing and balancing - my only concern is in Long games that people could max out all trees, it there anything in place for dealing with this (other than the growth penalties?) I know I end up with all the techs by the end of a long game despite growth penalties.

 

[CaptBasil]

Well, since Civ 6 now has casus belli I don't see why not

Civ: Beyond Earth introduced Paradox-style War Score, Civ 6 introduced CBs, EU4 announced this week that they'll bring Endless Legend's "Legendary Deeds" (era-specific challenges giving certain bonuses) feature to EU4, and now Stellaris is getting Civ 5's Social Policies. There's definitely a lot of cross-pollination going on between 4X and Grand Strategy nowadays.

 

[Saviour of Galaxy]

Excelent update! Will tradition impact the AI behaviour? (f.e. taking malevolent ideas from purity/domination escalating hatred from other empires?)

 

[domein]

Will this tall traditions somehow keep your 250k fleet neighbor from coming over and punching you in the face with invitation to vassalize?

 

[Pyramid_Head]

@Wiz

Will any of the traditions lock out other traditions? I couldn't imagine Harmony and Purity working together for example (outside of Beyond Earth that is!)

Why not? Have two races work tirelessly on exterminating other species. Like a crusade, where lots of countries united for a single goal.

 

[mwyeoh]

Sounds great. This was one of the few additions from Civ5 that I liked (The other being the religion system)

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

@Wiz

Will any of the traditions lock out other traditions? I couldn't imagine Harmony and Purity working together for example (outside of Beyond Earth that is!)

Good news though, I was wondering if Banks would be bringing anything like this. I'm assuming it's going through rigourious testing and balancing - my only concern is in Long games that people could max out all trees, it there anything in place for dealing with this (other than the growth penalties?) I know I end up with all the techs by the end of a long game despite growth penalties.

The traditions are specifically tied to ethos- "taking all of them" means taking all the ones diametrically opposed to your population's interests, meaning they'll be really angry.

 

[The_Meme_Man]

Why not? Have two races work tirelessly on exterminating other species. Like a crusade, where lots of countries united for a single goal.

Im imagining "Mammalian superiority" instead of "Human superiority" when considering Harmony and Purity.

 

[Malecord]

Will differences in tradition account when integrating subjects / annexing planets? In addition to the regular costs/issues I mean.

 

[Saviour of Galaxy]

Have two races work

Not pure. PURGE!

Im imagining "Mammalian superiority" instead of "Human superiority" when considering Harmony and Purity.

LOL!

"Pittyfull plant subcreature. Bow before superior animal masterrace"

 

[Red Death]

Yep Civ V was a fun game

Hopefully there will be a limitation of some sort as I'd hate to see late game empires maxing out all or most of the trees every game. Hopefully the tradition acquisition cost will scale sufficiently (to make up for the empire growth) too since 2 points per month for one building when the cost is 40 per tradition is faster than alot of the techs you can research. Here's hoping we don't end up with the optimal strategy of making planets that are literally mausoleums, monuments and government buildings all over

Isaac Asimov would like to have a word with you on planets covered in government buildings.

 

[Comrade_Beria]

Another hiatus? It almost makes me want to move to Sweden.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

Here's hoping we don't end up with the optimal strategy of making planets that are literally mausoleums, monuments and government buildings all over

Funny, because the first thing my mind went to was that it'd be really neat if the mechanic encouraged you to redevelop your homeworld into a proper "bureaucratic hub" with all your tombs and ministries and such on it.

 

[The_Meme_Man]

Not pure. PURGE!


LOL!

"Pittyfull plant subcreature. Bow before superior animal masterrace"

Shame there are still creature like this. They forget or even actively deny the great purge of 2354 when they got their populations to throw millions of reptilian and arachnid eggs at targets for sport, and they forced birds to strip off their feathers.

 

[Wizzington]

Another hiatus? It almost makes me want to move to Sweden.

The last one wasn't because of vacations, it was because we couldn't talk about 1.5 until 1.4 was out. It's really just unfortunate timing that you get two long hiatuses so close together.

 

[BrokenSky]

You may be shocked to find out that there are other features in Stellaris 'ripped off' from other games, for example colony ships.

(The mechanics of Traditions differ from those of social policies, especially where Ascension Perks are involved, but I can understand thinking so from the interface)

Mostly its the Adopt, 5 policies and a Finisher than makes it look like a civ 5 rip off. Can't wait for a mod which ups it to 7 or 10 policies in each tree.

 

[Gamengervi]

Awesome feature. The social policy trees were one of my favorite parts of CiV and I'm glad you guys are adopting the same sort of idea. I have a couple of thoughts though. Firstly, I feel like the harmony and purity tree contradict each other. One promotes a diverse and happy population while the other promotes species domination. Obviously we can't read the tradition descriptions right now, but if they're not going to be exclusive please try to make it so that the descriptions from one don't contradict the descriptions from the other.

On that note, the only thing I am kind of disappointed in is the lack of exclusivity. I'm not sure how long it takes to adopt one complete tree so maybe the fact that there are only five traditions per tree are alright, but the fact you can adopt every tree sort of irks me. Because of that, the choice of which tradition to adopt is only short-term. We can always grab the other option later and, if we play long enough, eventually we will adopt all the traditions. I hope that in the future we can make more difficult choices when customizing our empires.

Other than those two gripes, this is probably going be my most favorite feature so far.

One last thing: is this blank area going to be used to display the finisher? If not, it seems like wasted space.