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Tinto Maps #14 - 9th of August 2024 - Western Africa

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps, the day of the week for map nerds lovers! This week we will be taking a look at Western Africa! These lands were named historically in different ways, although probably the most widespread naming was Guinea, which also names the Gulf that makes for the southern limit of the region, with the Atlantic Ocean being to the west, the Sahara desert to the north, and the lands around Lake Chad making for the approximate eastern border.

With these regions, we’re also leaving the ‘Easy Mode Map-Making’ of Project Caesar, as getting comprehensive sources of information for 1337 for most of Sub-Saharan Africa is challenging, as the traditional historical record was oral, in contrast with the written records usual in Eurasia. In any case, we did our best to depict the rich history and geography of the region and its diversity, which is stunning. Let’s start, then!

Countries:
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The most important country, and one of the world's great powers, is the Empire of Mali, which in 1337 is at its zenit, still ruled by the infamous Mansa Mūsā. It controls not only the core lands of the Mandé-speaking peoples, but also holds the overlordship over Jolof, most of the fertile Niger river basin, and some of the most important Saharan outposts. To its south-east, the Mossi are organized in several polities (Ougadagou, Gwiriko, Yatenga, Boussouma, Tenkodogo, and Liptako). South into the coast, Kong, Dagbon, Bonoman, and Mankessim are polities ruled by the Dyula, the Dagbani, and the Akan (the last two). To the east, Fada N’gourma, Borgu, and Mamprugu connect with the lands of the Hausa, which rule from several city-states: Kebbi, Gobir, Zafara, Katsina, Daura, Kano, Rano, and Zazzau. Further to the east, the Empire of Kanem rules the lands around Lake Chad from its capital in Njimi, and over some of the Saharan corridors, making it the region's second wealthiest country. And finally, further to the south, there are the lands of the Nupe, the Yoruba (Oyo, Ife, Ijebu, Owo), the Edo (Benin), and the Igbo (Nri).

Dynasties:
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The dynasties of the region are a mix of well-known ones, such as the Keita of Mali, the Ndiaye of Jolof, or the Sayfawa of Kanem, and randomly generated ones for the rest of the polities, as we don’t have good enough sources on who was ruling over most of them in 1337.

Locations:
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The locations of Western Africa. We’ve tried our best to find suitable locations, correct naming, etc., although I’m sure there might be plenty of feedback to apply.

Provinces:
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Areas:
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Terrain:
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This week we have proper Terrain mapmodes at the release of the Tinto Maps… Not much to say about them, though, as the climate and vegetation are pretty straightforward, being divided into Arid and Tropical; while the vegetation goes from desert and sparse beside the Sahara, to increasingly more forested terrain, until reaching the tropical jungles by the coast. The topography is not very fragmented, with the Guinean Highlands and the Adamawa Plateau being the most important landmarks.

Natural Harbors:
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A new map mode this week, coming from the latest Tinto Talks! There are some decent natural harbors in the region, with Banana Islands (where Freetown would be founded), Elmina, and Calabar being the best ones.

Cultures:
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A beautiful map this week… I may repeat that we tried our best to approach the region, taking into account that this was the first African region we completed, around 3 years ago. When we review it, we may add some more diversity, as we have now some more tools than the ones we had back in time, but we think that it’s way best to read your feedback first, to make sure we are on the same page.

Religions:
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Take this map as very WIP. The Sunni-Animism division is kind of accurate, with the expected division for 1337 (Islam would later on advance more to the South, but we think this is the best for this date). What we have yet to do is to divide the ‘Animism’ population into some of the regional variants; we already have plenty of data, but we also want to read your feedback on this first.

Raw Materials:
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The goods of the region are quite diverse and very dependent on the geography. In the Saharan lands, there are plenty of locations with resources such as Salt, Copper, or Alum (regarding this resource, the lands to the north of Lake Chad make for the densest Alum hub in the world for 1337, something the historical sources talk about). Livestock is king in the Sahelian lands, while there are plenty of agricultural goods in the Niger river basin. The region is also full of luxury goods, of which Gold is the most relevant, as being the biggest supply of this metal to the Mediterranean and Europe in the Late Middle Ages, while also having others such as Ivory, Gems, or Spices (which in this region are portraying some goods such as kola nuts, or malagueta pepper). Finally, the coasts of the Gulf of Guinea have plenty of Fish. Maybe the only type of good that is not very abundant in the region is metals, as having some Iron, Tin, etc., but not much in comparison with other regions.

Markets:
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Markets of the region, have an interesting distribution. The most important ones in 1337 are Niani, Kano, and Njimi, which are also connected to the Northern African markets, making it possible to get plenty of wealth by exporting well-demanded goods throughout the Sahara (for instance, exporting Gold or Alum for good money is a very viable strategy ATM). Later on, after the Age of Discovery, the coastal markets may get connected to other markets, making them more relevant, and maybe switching the power balance of the region from the North to the South, as historically happened (but take it as a ‘maybe’, not for granted, OFC!).

Population:
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Population of the region. We’ve improved a bit our tracking of the population data, to avoid further problems like the one we had with Germany. I can tell you that the total population of Western Africa is around 5.6M people, which is divided into 2.2M for the Sahel, and 3.3M for the coast of Guinea. You may very well notice that the hegemonic power here may be Mali, with around 700k people, but also that there are many more people not living under the rule of a polity, than living under it, which will make for interesting gameplay on how to deal with it (more about this in a later Tinto Talks, soon…).

And, speaking of that, I have the sad news that next Friday there is a bank holiday here in Spain, so there won’t be a Tinto Maps. The next one will be on Friday 23rd, and we will be taking a look at Eastern Africa! Until then, you may still stay tuned, as we will be replying to feedback, as usual, and we may have some informal maps incoming. Cheers!
 
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@Pavía The General History of Africa Vol. 4 is from 1984, that's a very old secondary source. Newer publications should usually be considered as more reliable because they reflect the more recent state of the art which means that they also reflect the discussions on specific issues such as population figures. In demographic research, within the last four decades, we had the rise of computer science for modeling populations (which was only to some degree viable in the 1980s), combined with general trends of doing interdisciplinary research to conduct, e.g., historical linguistics and ethnographic approaches together with paleoenvironmental approaches and archeology. These are approaches that are relevant for discussions on the Anthropocene, which is again an entirely new concept that was popularized in the 1990s / early 2000s due to debates on climate change and environmental issues.

To get back to population figures, there is more than one generation of scholars that worked on population numbers after the General History of Africa. In this time period, there have been entirely new approaches and paradigms, like global and transnational history, environmental history, queer and gender studies, postcolonial studies, cultural studies, etc. etc.

The general trend of recent scholarship that put the figures for sub-Saharan Africa much higher than previously (?) are also reflected in Green (2012, p. 243):
  • 1300: 60M.; 1400: 60M.; 1500: 78M.; 1600: 104M.; 1700: 97M.; 1800: 92M.; 1850: 90M.; 1900: 95M.
What we tend to forget, due to the projections we use, is that (sub-Saharan) Africa is huge. Let's take a look at the Mollweide projection below:
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The Qing Empire had roughly 14,7 million square kilometers, whereas sub-Saharan Africa has 24,3 million square kilometers. Europe, on the other hand, only has about 10 million square kilometers. That is, sub-Saharan Africa is about 66% larger than the Qing Empire. China currently has 1,4 billion people, whereas sub-Saharan Africa has 1,2 billion people. Population projections for the year 2100 estimate 3 billion people for sub-Saharan Africa.

The point is that it's not implausible at all that sub-Saharan Africa had about 50 or even 60 million inhabitants in 1300, given its enormous size and enormous resources, and considering the current trajectories in population growth. Moreover, since we do have much more reliable sources for population figures in later centuries, we can at least infer (backcast) what the population figures might have looked like in 1300, considering that we would have to calibrate the growth rates to explain the numbers that we deem as more reliable. Exactly this is what population modeling has been doing in the last couple of decades.

Reference
Green, E. D. (2012). Demographic change and conflict in contemporary Africa. In J. A. Goldstone, E. P. Kaufmann, & M. D. Toft (Eds.), Political demography: How population changes are reshaping international security and national politics (pp. 238–263). Oxford University Press.
It should be pointed out that Pavia mentions the 40-50M estimate is for West Africa alone, not the entirety of sub-Saharan Africa.
 
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It should be pointed out that Pavia mentions the 40-50M estimate is for West Africa alone, not the entirety of sub-Saharan Africa.
Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. From what I read over the past weeks, very high estimates put Africa (the entire continent) on par with Europe around 1300, but 50M. for West Africa alone seems extremely high, I totally agree. But again, I will double check some journals for more recent numbers, it's an incredible challenge to find any reliable source on that issue (so I can only guess how many months the entire Paradox Tinto team has invested into population numbers only).

*edit* the reason why I initially assumed that Pavía was referring to sub-Saharan Africa as a whole was because he wrote that "Western Africa is around 5.6M people." If that is the case, where are the remaining 45-55M. people? Even if we take the very low estimates of 30M. for sub-Saharan Africa, then 5,6M. is incredibly low for West Africa. There are about 419M. currently living in West Africa, that is about 1/3 of sub-Saharan Africa's population. That is, there should be around 10-20M. people in West Africa if we infer from current population distributions (which is definitely not a good method due to differences in income across Africa and related fertility rates, but better than arbitrary distributions).
 
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We spent a fun summer in 2021 working in parallel in the map-making of the region for Caesar, and in the EUIV: Origins DLC. It was interesting, as we had very different approaches for each of the tasks.
Ah, that explains your restraint during Origins and no further EU4 map changes- I was so disappointed then, if only I knew the glory that awaited...
 
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I liked how provinces that were not owned by a state in Eu4 looked, would it be possible to possible to hve an option to see the terrain where it's not owned by a state?
 
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Ghana province should probably be renamed Wagadu, whilst they’re synonymous, Wagadu is the native name and the name for the core of the empire (the empire was effectively lots of tributary states)

Edit: Also might be worth adding the Toucoleur people even though their empire was outside of the games period

Edit 2: This way a compromise between the native name and common English name could have Wagadu as a vassal of Mali and have the Ghana Empire as a formable
 
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Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps, the day of the week for map nerds lovers! This week we will be taking a look at Western Africa! These lands were named historically in different ways, although probably the most widespread naming was Guinea, which also names the Gulf that makes for the southern limit of the region, with the Atlantic Ocean being to the west, the Sahara desert to the north, and the lands around Lake Chad making for the approximate eastern border.

With these regions, we’re also leaving the ‘Easy Mode Map-Making’ of Project Caesar, as getting comprehensive sources of information for 1337 for most of Sub-Saharan Africa is challenging, as the traditional historical record was oral, in contrast with the written records usual in Eurasia. In any case, we did our best to depict the rich history and geography of the region and its diversity, which is stunning. Let’s start, then!

Countries:
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The most important country, and one of the world's great powers, is the Empire of Mali, which in 1337 is at its zenit, still ruled by the infamous Mansa Mūsā. It controls not only the core lands of the Mandé-speaking peoples, but also holds the overlordship over Jolof, most of the fertile Niger river basin, and some of the most important Saharan outposts. To its south-east, the Mossi are organized in several polities (Ougadagou, Gwiriko, Yatenga, Boussouma, Tenkodogo, and Liptako). South into the coast, Kong, Dagbon, Bonoman, and Mankessim are polities ruled by the Dyula, the Dagbani, and the Akan (the last two). To the east, Fada N’gourma, Borgu, and Mamprugu connect with the lands of the Hausa, which rule from several city-states: Kebbi, Gobir, Zafara, Katsina, Daura, Kano, Rano, and Zazzau. Further to the east, the Empire of Kanem rules the lands around Lake Chad from its capital in Njimi, and over some of the Saharan corridors, making it the region's second wealthiest country. And finally, further to the south, there are the lands of the Nupe, the Yoruba (Oyo, Ife, Ijebu, Owo), the Edo (Benin), and the Igbo (Nri).

Dynasties:
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The dynasties of the region are a mix of well-known ones, such as the Keita of Mali, the Ndiaye of Jolof, or the Sayfawa of Kanem, and randomly generated ones for the rest of the polities, as we don’t have good enough sources on who was ruling over most of them in 1337.

Locations:
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The locations of Western Africa. We’ve tried our best to find suitable locations, correct naming, etc., although I’m sure there might be plenty of feedback to apply.

Provinces:
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Areas:
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Terrain:
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This week we have proper Terrain mapmodes at the release of the Tinto Maps… Not much to say about them, though, as the climate and vegetation are pretty straightforward, being divided into Arid and Tropical; while the vegetation goes from desert and sparse beside the Sahara, to increasingly more forested terrain, until reaching the tropical jungles by the coast. The topography is not very fragmented, with the Guinean Highlands and the Adamawa Plateau being the most important landmarks.

Natural Harbors:
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A new map mode this week, coming from the latest Tinto Talks! There are some decent natural harbors in the region, with Banana Islands (where Freetown would be founded), Elmina, and Calabar being the best ones.

Cultures:
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A beautiful map this week… I may repeat that we tried our best to approach the region, taking into account that this was the first African region we completed, around 3 years ago. When we review it, we may add some more diversity, as we have now some more tools than the ones we had back in time, but we think that it’s way best to read your feedback first, to make sure we are on the same page.

Religions:
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Take this map as very WIP. The Sunni-Animism division is kind of accurate, with the expected division for 1337 (Islam would later on advance more to the South, but we think this is the best for this date). What we have yet to do is to divide the ‘Animism’ population into some of the regional variants; we already have plenty of data, but we also want to read your feedback on this first.

Raw Materials:
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The goods of the region are quite diverse and very dependent on the geography. In the Saharan lands, there are plenty of locations with resources such as Salt, Copper, or Alum (regarding this resource, the lands to the north of Lake Chad make for the densest Alum hub in the world for 1337, something the historical sources talk about). Livestock is king in the Sahelian lands, while there are plenty of agricultural goods in the Niger river basin. The region is also full of luxury goods, of which Gold is the most relevant, as being the biggest supply of this metal to the Mediterranean and Europe in the Late Middle Ages, while also having others such as Ivory, Gems, or Spices (which in this region are portraying some goods such as kola nuts, or malagueta pepper). Finally, the coasts of the Gulf of Guinea have plenty of Fish. Maybe the only type of good that is not very abundant in the region is metals, as having some Iron, Tin, etc., but not much in comparison with other regions.

Markets:
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Markets of the region, have an interesting distribution. The most important ones in 1337 are Niani, Kano, and Njimi, which are also connected to the Northern African markets, making it possible to get plenty of wealth by exporting well-demanded goods throughout the Sahara (for instance, exporting Gold or Alum for good money is a very viable strategy ATM). Later on, after the Age of Discovery, the coastal markets may get connected to other markets, making them more relevant, and maybe switching the power balance of the region from the North to the South, as historically happened (but take it as a ‘maybe’, not for granted, OFC!).

Population:
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Population of the region. We’ve improved a bit our tracking of the population data, to avoid further problems like the one we had with Germany. I can tell you that the total population of Western Africa is around 5.6M people, which is divided into 2.2M for the Sahel, and 3.3M for the coast of Guinea. You may very well notice that the hegemonic power here may be Mali, with around 700k people, but also that there are many more people not living under the rule of a polity, than living under it, which will make for interesting gameplay on how to deal with it (more about this in a later Tinto Talks, soon…).

And, speaking of that, I have the sad news that next Friday there is a bank holiday here in Spain, so there won’t be a Tinto Maps. The next one will be on Friday 23rd, and we will be taking a look at Eastern Africa! Until then, you may still stay tuned, as we will be replying to feedback, as usual, and we may have some informal maps incoming. Cheers!
There will need to be some mechanic for malaria to prevent these areas from being invaded by Europeans when they couldn't do that for exactly that reason.
 
Have you guys considered renaming jungles to "rainforest" so you can have that vegetation type outside of tropical regions?
I don't think they purposefully want to portray the technical 'rainforest' denomination, but want to reflect the vegetation density of tropical rainforests.

Due to never having winters, the undergrowth can continue to grow year-round, which really increases the level of difficulty to maneuver and reclaim these forests.

In e.g. temperate rainforests, winter is a limiting factor for the undergrowth, which is why I think 'forest' remains an apt classification for them, with jungle truely representing the most intense vegetation densities of the tropics.
 
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Some countries are strange, I have never heard or read about them, probably because they are tribal and have left nothing behind. Then why not add a couple more? Or a couple dozen...

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I have compiled a more complete map of the states and neighboring tribes about which I had information and which occupy more than one province or are important players in the region. Different sources contradict each other, so I had to move some countries.

The solid line marks mostly the countries shown to us. The dotted line shows the added and modified countries that survived until the beginning of the 18th century, plus the trade hegemony of Benin. Dots indicate countries that do not exist or are subjects of the country in which they are located, for example, in Benin, dependent trading partners are shown in this way.
this looks nice but how much of this is actually based on historical attestation?
 
When utilizing sources it’s important to take note of the time period stated within it. Your source has a minimum date of 1700 and we are talking about 1337 a whole 350 ish years before.
Yeah I mentioned it’s a good bit off from EU5’s start, but I still think it’s useful sense it specifically discussing the various population estimates for Africa over the years. I think I had trouble posting the link but you can find the pdf of the whole article pretty easily by just searching the name.
 

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I found this article specifically on African population estimates, from what I’ve skimmed it seems the overall estimates have gotten bigger rather than smaller over the years. (Though it is focused on a later period) I feel like the population should be revised upwards, as it stands it seems too slanted to the very low estimates. Also as it stands Mali seems to be quite underpopulated in comparison to the rest of West Africa, from what I’ve read it’s generally portrayed as the most urbanized and densely settled part of the region.

Here’s a historum thread discussing Mali and Songhai’s population, Niane seems to suggest Mali and the Sahel region in general were a major center of Africa’s overall population.

 

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Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. From what I read over the past weeks, very high estimates put Africa (the entire continent) on par with Europe around 1300, but 50M. for West Africa alone seems extremely high, I totally agree. But again, I will double check some journals for more recent numbers, it's an incredible challenge to find any reliable source on that issue (so I can only guess how many months the entire Paradox Tinto team has invested into population numbers only).

*edit* the reason why I initially assumed that Pavía was referring to sub-Saharan Africa as a whole was because he wrote that "Western Africa is around 5.6M people." If that is the case, where are the remaining 45-55M. people? Even if we take the very low estimates of 30M. for sub-Saharan Africa, then 5,6M. is incredibly low for West Africa. There are about 419M. currently living in West Africa, that is about 1/3 of sub-Saharan Africa's population. That is, there should be around 10-20M. people in West Africa if we infer from current population distributions (which is definitely not a good method due to differences in income across Africa and related fertility rates, but better than arbitrary distributions).
Seem like West Africa should be around 10-20 million
 
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What's with the stray tropical location in Kabara (?) in northern Mali ?

Also, I'm quite surprised that the climate jumps from arid to tropical with no gradient which I expected the subtropical climate to be; with this, it feels like the subtropical climate will be very rare... What (rather large) areas would subtropical be used for then? (iirc it's only been shown in northern Italy for now)
The distinction here is roughly correct. Subtropical climates would be found in regions like the southern USA, southern Brazil, southern China and northern India. They are not a transition zone between tropical to arid, it wouldn't make sense and would be incorrect to place them in west Africa.

Instead of Arid the Sahel should be Savanah
The Sahel is often referred to as a savannah popularly but in the Koppen-Geiger climate classification, it is semi-arid as it features a much shorter and smaller wet season compared to actual tropical savannah, which predominates beneath it (and is represented in the maps here as having tropical climate and grasslands terrain). Project Caesar seems to have chosen to represent semi-arid climate with the "arid" and "cold arid" climate and then draw the distinction between actual arid deserts and semi-arid grasslands by using different terrain types (so Arid climate like the Savannah = Arid + Desert terrain, while the Sahel = Arid + Sparse/Grasslands terrain).
 
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I saw a french documentary about Mansa Musa once and they said he wanted everyone to think he was rich because Mali just had infinite gold but actually most of his wealth came from trading slaves. Does anyone know anything about this?
 
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