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Tinto Talks #15 - June 5th 2024

Welcome to the 15th Tinto Talks, where we ask for feedback on our extremely crazily top secret game which has the codename Project Caesar.

One thing that many have asked for has been a more in-depth dynastical gameplay, so here it is.

Characters
Before we delve into the dynamics of dynastic gameplay, we must first talk about their building blocks, the characters.

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Here is a European King with an early 18th century background.

While not copying the Crusader Kings mechanics, a Character in Project Caesar is a bit more alive than in let's say EU4. A character is born, lives, and eventually dies.

Every character has Administrative, Diplomatic and Military Attributes ranging from 0-100. Of course, these attributes will not add any sort of mana, but they will impact how well the character will perform certain roles. One example is that the diplomatic ability of an admiral impacts the morale of the navy he leads.

Newborn characters start with 0, but that grows until they are adults depending on what childhood trait they have. You can also assign your rulers’ children and grandchildren a specific education during their childhood

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This is a trait that when on the heir of the player it increases the chance of hunting accidents by 200%.

Characters ruling a country will gain up to 3 traits, depending on how long they have ruled.
They are gained while ruling a country. Characters that are generals or admirals will also get traits after combat. There are also unique traits for characters that are REDACTED or OTHER_SECRET_THING.

Characters also have a culture they come from, a religion they follow, they keep track of where they were born, and where they currently are living. They belong to an estate, which for most characters tends to be the nobles estate.

Many characters will have a father and/or a mother as well. For some historical characters at the start of the game that will not necessarily be true.

The number of spouse(s) a character can have depends on religions and laws, but the number of children they get depends more on the fertility of the parents.

So what can you do with characters? Well, this is not Crusader Kings, so the characters themselves are not as important, and there are no character specific events like in Imperator either. In this game, characters are tools to be used for the greater good. If that means marrying off your daughter to secure an alliance with France, then that's what you have to do. You can arrange marriages in your country, send less useful characters into convents, ennoble great people, and much more.
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This is an African ruler, in his throne room, which while beautiful, is just a background image…


Speaking of marriages, royal marriages in Project Caesar are not just sending a diplomat, here it is far more limited, as you have to actually marry real characters, and often this is a vital action. If you can’t arrange a royal marriage with a country of enough prestige, that has a young consort, you may be forced to marry a local noble from your country, or worse, even a lowborn.

A Royal Marriage between two rulers will immediately form a union between those two countries. Every country has its own inheritance laws, which if they differ, may cause a Union to break, as the rulers would be different. This is probably not the audience where I need to explain the difference between Salic Law and Semi-Salic Law right?


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And who was the founder of this dynasty?

Dynasties are important, as they impact diplomacy in direct and indirect ways. As some inheritance laws prefer their own dynasty, and having the same dynasty can improve opinions between countries.


As in almost all previous GSG, the game will keep track of who has ruled that country before, just so you can go back and admire them. We have tried to get in as much history as possible here, even if my heathen content designers refuse to have Odin as the original King of Sweden!

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Of course regnal numbering and actual names depend on many different things..


Stay tuned, next week we’ll be back and we will then talk about how the cabinet will work.
 

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The Portuguese dynasty should be "De Borgonha".

Would it be possible to change "de Burgundy" to "de Borgonha" for the Portuguese ruling dynasty? O

Having this anglo-portuguese naming though is a bit weird. I'd prefer "de Borgonha" or "of Burgundy", but at the very least please add the "de" rather than "da". Thank you!

I like this. In such cases it should be "de" rather than "da"


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Please dont make world conquest possible in this game, it shouldnt be possible by this era and its what made eu4 boring after 1600+
Thats why i love stellaris a guy can have 80% of the galaxy but if he has 1k pop and i have 1k pop with only 20% of the galaxy i have the same economy
 
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Please dont make world conquest possible in this game, it shouldnt be possible by this era and its what made eu4 boring after 1600+
Thats why i love stellaris a guy can have 80% of the galaxy but if he has 1k pop and i have 1k pop with only 20% of the galaxy i have the same economy
it's been confirmed that they are making it very hard to be achieved and that the goal is indeed for it not to be possible.
 
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Is there a particular reason that you guys are repeating EU4's decision to tie navy performance to diplomatic ability? Because it's honestly unintuitive and nonsensical at any level other than "well trade is related to diplomacy and navy is kinda related to trade". Why not add a separate navy stat or attach it to military ability?
 
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I personally like 3D portraits. If the character's costume is correct, 3D portraits can help enhance the immersion. But after seeing Vic3's East Asian costumes, I'm pessimistic.
 
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Will there be any changes to what makes a good leader? It's weird how being good at diplomacy somehow makes you a better admiral.

And also I hate to say it, while the 3D portraits aren't as... unappealing as Vic 3s, they still just don't belong. It just adds to make it feel like a damn mobile game. My biggest complaint of the new PDX titles... mobile UI, mobile graphics, mobile characters.. Do we really have to follow the trend of modern games and UI being so boring and simplified? EU4 had a nice UI. It feels good. Older games always had better UI. Now everything is self-contained, boxy, animated and... meh. Like decisions in eu4, having a name, description and a little mail icon or whatever. I bet if they are in this game it's just a damn box you click. A big rectangle with text.
 
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Will there be a Peace Option to Install someone from our Dynasty on another nations throne like that of Austria in EU4?
And will there be Dynastic Disputes? For example if a Ruler dies without heir and his sisters are married to different dynasties can they both fight for the throne? Maybe even a 3 way?