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Tinto Talks #15 - June 5th 2024

Welcome to the 15th Tinto Talks, where we ask for feedback on our extremely crazily top secret game which has the codename Project Caesar.

One thing that many have asked for has been a more in-depth dynastical gameplay, so here it is.

Characters
Before we delve into the dynamics of dynastic gameplay, we must first talk about their building blocks, the characters.

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Here is a European King with an early 18th century background.

While not copying the Crusader Kings mechanics, a Character in Project Caesar is a bit more alive than in let's say EU4. A character is born, lives, and eventually dies.

Every character has Administrative, Diplomatic and Military Attributes ranging from 0-100. Of course, these attributes will not add any sort of mana, but they will impact how well the character will perform certain roles. One example is that the diplomatic ability of an admiral impacts the morale of the navy he leads.

Newborn characters start with 0, but that grows until they are adults depending on what childhood trait they have. You can also assign your rulers’ children and grandchildren a specific education during their childhood

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This is a trait that when on the heir of the player it increases the chance of hunting accidents by 200%.

Characters ruling a country will gain up to 3 traits, depending on how long they have ruled.
They are gained while ruling a country. Characters that are generals or admirals will also get traits after combat. There are also unique traits for characters that are REDACTED or OTHER_SECRET_THING.

Characters also have a culture they come from, a religion they follow, they keep track of where they were born, and where they currently are living. They belong to an estate, which for most characters tends to be the nobles estate.

Many characters will have a father and/or a mother as well. For some historical characters at the start of the game that will not necessarily be true.

The number of spouse(s) a character can have depends on religions and laws, but the number of children they get depends more on the fertility of the parents.

So what can you do with characters? Well, this is not Crusader Kings, so the characters themselves are not as important, and there are no character specific events like in Imperator either. In this game, characters are tools to be used for the greater good. If that means marrying off your daughter to secure an alliance with France, then that's what you have to do. You can arrange marriages in your country, send less useful characters into convents, ennoble great people, and much more.
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This is an African ruler, in his throne room, which while beautiful, is just a background image…


Speaking of marriages, royal marriages in Project Caesar are not just sending a diplomat, here it is far more limited, as you have to actually marry real characters, and often this is a vital action. If you can’t arrange a royal marriage with a country of enough prestige, that has a young consort, you may be forced to marry a local noble from your country, or worse, even a lowborn.

A Royal Marriage between two rulers will immediately form a union between those two countries. Every country has its own inheritance laws, which if they differ, may cause a Union to break, as the rulers would be different. This is probably not the audience where I need to explain the difference between Salic Law and Semi-Salic Law right?


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And who was the founder of this dynasty?

Dynasties are important, as they impact diplomacy in direct and indirect ways. As some inheritance laws prefer their own dynasty, and having the same dynasty can improve opinions between countries.


As in almost all previous GSG, the game will keep track of who has ruled that country before, just so you can go back and admire them. We have tried to get in as much history as possible here, even if my heathen content designers refuse to have Odin as the original King of Sweden!

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Of course regnal numbering and actual names depend on many different things..


Stay tuned, next week we’ll be back and we will then talk about how the cabinet will work.
 

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How does this work for republics? Does the country have an existing set of character milling about that can be electoral candidates, or is a new character with their own dynasty generated whenever an election replaces the ruler? I see the Teutonic Order has a dynasty, though I can't fully make out the letters.

Why is Denmark without a dynasty? Are they in rebellion like Scotland is?
 
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Okay but can I make an inbred monstrosity as the Habsburgs?
 
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Are we not talking about this gap in ruler succession?
 
Why 3D portraits, oh why! The 2D portraits of CK2 were the pinnacle of character portraits in Paradox games.
 
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"This is a trait that when on the heir of the player it increases the chance of hunting accidents by 200%."

Don't do this to me, I beg you...
 
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You say that there are no character specific event, but then again hunting incident in mentioned, which specifically means targeting an (character) heir? How do you classify these events?
 
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can rulers get nicknames/epithats if they have certaint personalities or do certaint things, like if you create a certaint nations or conquer a lot of land under one rulers lifetime?
 
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Here's to hoping that this doesn't cause performance issues, and can be mostly ignored...
Reading that there won't be character specific events sounds good, but I really hope there's no more involvement than Vicky 3. I want to play a country, not a character, and by and large I care about countries, not characters
 
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Looks great & just the right level of detail for PC!

Can there be a game rule for semi-obscuring character attributes as well, similar to the ledger options? Rounding to the nearest 10 would be just fine. I think knowing a ruler's attributes on a very granular 0-100 scale is a tiny bit immersion breaking.
 
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Since both Golden Horde and Yuan are ruled by Borjigin, why does the word "Borjigin" shown in Europe only?
 
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In the previous Dev Diaries, I've noticed that despite starting united, Georgian Patriarchate has actually four entities under it. Now In the Dynastic Ledger, I see that the ruling house of the United Sweden has Several flags next to it, most of which, IIRC, resemble some of the Swedish Duchies in CK. Does this mean that Countries will actually have CK style internal subdivisions and autonomous entities, or are those flags something else? If so, then will these entities be changeable (changing the borders of the duchies inside the kingdom) or will they be fixed?
 
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I like more realistic marriages and educating child etc, but I hope every time I get kid wont result in trying to find good teacher (I hate it in ck3), so I hope there is a way to automate it.
 
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