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Tinto Talks #57 - 2nd of April 2025

Welcome to another Tinto Talks, the Happy Wednesday where we talk about our entirely super-top-secret game with the codename Project Caesar.

Today we will go through the rest of the major changes that have been made in the last year on the project, many due to your direct feedback.


New Country Type
As was heavily requested, we have added the navy-based countries, and you will find out more in detail how they work and how you can play them when we talk more about the Pirates! Situation.

Ages matter more.
One thing we wanted to do was to make each age feel more unique and different to play, while also adding interesting choices.

First of all, we changed the start of the Age of Renaissance to occur 5 years later, so that you get more of a feel of what you want to do before making decisions on what bonus advances you want.

Secondly, we went through how our buildings unlock, and made it so that guilds are unlocked in the Age of Traditions and Age of Renaissance, the workshops during the Age of Reformation, the manufactories during the Age of Absolutism, and the Mills inthe Age of Revolutions. Each new category for a building increases productivity and capacity, and when you get the mills, you will employ laborers instead of burghers.

As mentioned before, we unlock Hegemons through the Age of Discovery, and the ‘Absolutism vs Liberalism’ Societal Value in the Age of Absolutism. After testing, we moved the ‘Outward vs Inward’ societal value to be unlocked when the Age of Discovery starts, and the ‘Mercantilism vs Free Trade’ societal value to the Age of Reformation.


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It's the age to colonize….

Each age also has some unique bonuses which are active during the entire age, changing how the Age is played a bit. They also have different values for how much levies cost and the size of an expected army.

The Age of Renaissance gives higher cultural tradition and an increased diplomatic capacity, so as to emphasize cultural progress and to encourage a reliance on subjects.

The Age of Discovery gives cheaper colonial charters and faster exploration, as one would expect.

The Age of Reformation gives lower trade maintenance and faster religious conversions.

Age of Absolutism allows you to integrate subjects faster and revoking privileges from the Estates is far cheaper.

Age of Revolutions reduces the warscore cost, but also reduces the loyalty of subjects.


Colonizing Changes
First of all, we removed the concept of failing with explorations, as it was a source of endless frustration and ragequits among our internal testers. Anything that affected the chance of failure of an expedition now impacts the staging time of the exploration expedition.

Speaking of staging, now when you start a colonial charter you need to select an origin province where they will send pops from. To hook this into the economy part of the game better, it will also require goods to be able to ship colonists. The current origin location gets a small boost to increasing prosperity and development while the colonial charter is active.

Colonial charter targets now prioritise where there is a lower population, where you have foreign buildings, and natural harbour suitability.

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So where should the peasants colonising Norrland come from?


Market Creation
A big problem when you had a country at the edge of a market was the fact that you had low market access, and thus a weaker economy, and creating a new market was prohibitively expensive. A simple but rather elegant solution was to scale the cost of creating a new market by the market access that location currently has. This also has the added benefit of making it easy and cheap to set up a new market for your colonial subject.



Liberate Slaves Peace Treaty
Another thing requested was to force a country to release all pops they had enslaved from you, if let's say they raid your coasts for slaves, and you then send the marines to, let’s say, the shores of Tripoli, you can then force them to sign a peace treaty to return all your slaves.

Culture
Some of you requested a more dynamic way to handle cultures, so we have added two new cabinet actions, which each currently take about 10 years to complete.

Unify Culture Group
If you are an Empire, and the Dominant Country of your primary culture, the Unify Culture Group cabinet action can be used on a culture group belonging to your primary culture that has no other countries with that culture group. Upon completion, your primary culture will change to a brand new culture. Pops in your country of the same culture group and language will also change to this culture. This can only be done once.

Form New Culture
If you are a Kingdom or Empire, and NOT the Dominant Country of your primary culture, you can break away from it and form a new culture.

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We are clearly different from the Swedes!


Satisfaction
Keeping your pops and estates satisfied is a key part of the core gameplay of Project Caesar. The balance here has been tweaked countless times over the years of development, and currently, each privilege or other source of satisfaction gives small values, so it's harder to get all estates perfectly happy all the time as a player.

One other thing we made is that when you build buildings in lower control areas, the pops that belong to the estates these buildings employ get a small boost to satisfaction, inversely related to the current control. This makes it possible to target some infrastructure development to keep the populace happy in less central parts of your realm.


If you so wish, you can also use a cabinet action targeting a specific rebel to stop their progress and even make it go backwards.

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They got funding, but we got the government to stop them!




This is the last Tinto Talks I’ll write for a while, as I’m handing it off to @Pavía for the near future as we focus on flavour mechanics. He’ll start next week by talking about Voltaire’s Nightmare the Holy Roman Empire.
 
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One thing I still don't quite get, and maybe someone can clear this up for me, is the market center. Isn't it always a net positive to have your own market since you want to control the market center? Or is there a situation, where you would want to stay in a foreign market to gain access to cheaper goods? You would just automatically import them otherwise, no?
the act of importing them would require you to spend merchant capacity to get them, and eventually import them at loss rather than just using those already existing in the market. Goods aren't automatically transfered between markets, only sold and bought by tags and estates
 
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Unify Culture Group
If you are an Empire, and the Dominant Country of your primary culture, the Unify Culture Group cabinet action can be used on a culture group belonging to your primary culture that has no other countries with that culture group. Upon completion, your primary culture will change to a brand new culture. Pops in your country of the same culture group and language will also change to this culture. This can only be done once.
Wouldn't this mean that as soon as Ming or another dynasty appears, China will just instantly unify all the cultures 30 years into the game?
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How are languages and cultures linked ? In a recent thread, it was interpreted as the culture defining your language (aka "language" is no more than an attribute of the "culture" variable)

Is that correct, or is language something separate with its proper caracteristics ?
 
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Are you planning to implement autonomous colonial settlements?


For example, instead of the player (as the state) directing peasants from provinces to colonize new areas, could we see groups like persecuted religious minorities or adventurers (adelantados) leading peasants to settle new territories on their own initiative?
 
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Great work!

2 questions:

Liberate slave pops, does it means they release all slaves with your culture held captive at the moment of peace treaty?

Forming new culture, how easy is to do it, and have that happen to often during your testing? I wouldn't want to find myself in a game where I suddenly have 12 additional cultures of my culture group.

And could you elaborate a bit what do you mean by forming a brand new culture by unifying culture group? Does it mean something like forming German nation by unifying german culture group or did I miss something?
 
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Market Creation
A big problem when you had a country at the edge of a market was the fact that you had low market access, and thus a weaker economy, and creating a new market was prohibitively expensive. A simple but rather elegant solution was to scale the cost of creating a new market by the market access that location currently has. This also has the added benefit of making it easy and cheap to set up a new market for your colonial subject.
I just wanted to point out: that is really elegant! Seems somewhat realistic as well: less competition for the new market centre makes it easier to set up.

Masterclass in game design right here!

Unify Culture Group
If you are an Empire, and the Dominant Country of your primary culture, the Unify Culture Group cabinet action can be used on a culture group belonging to your primary culture that has no other countries with that culture group. Upon completion, your primary culture will change to a brand new culture. Pops in your country of the same culture group and language will also change to this culture. This can only be done once.
Nice! Though I hope it's expensive enough that not doing it is a real option. I like my eclectic mix of cultures!

Also, not all countries that met those circumstances had a truly unified culture. I am thinking of for example china here.
Form New Culture
If you are a Kingdom or Empire, and NOT the Dominant Country of your primary culture, you can break away from it and form a new culture.
While I love the additional dynamism, I am not sure I like this simply being a deliberate choice by the player. Is having your own culture a benefit? I could almost imagine instead a system where this might start to happen automatically under certain circumstances, with a cabinet action if you want to prevent it.
I am a bit too busy with other things the next few months, so @Pavía will take care of you.
Good luck with "other things"!
 
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What is Expected army size?

Pretty sure in past TT, it has been told that there were no army force limits, has it changed, or is this something different?

Its the army your country is kind of expected to have. There are drawbacks to not being close to it.
 
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Wonderful changes, thanks for it!
But have a couple of questions - have there been any changes in terrain/climate/vegetation? Many wrote that the effects of the subtropics, for example, are pretty low etc
Also, there was interesting suggestion about adding assimilation to the accepted cultures, not just primary, maybe you can think about its implementation?