What’s Next for Bloodlines 2

[Baalzamon85]

Someone else's culture is not a meme. You're talking about it like it's just something for you to laugh at.

Maybe you need an Etymology lesson. Many of the words we have in English come from Greek. Many Armenian words also come from Greek. Names that means "fire" are common throughout pretty much all languages. Mocking and ridiculing these people for existing only makes your argument impossible to take seriously. You've been told it's someone else's culture and you keep doubling down on the disrespect.

Again your argument is absurd, names have different meanings in other languages. What i am mocking is the name in a english context for a vampire game, no one is talking about Armenian culture except you here. The fact that your trying to twist the nature of my complaint into something it's not is just a poor reflection of your moral character.

 

[Jia Xu]

Again your argument is absurd, names have different meanings in other languages. What i am mocking is the name in a english context for a vampire game, no one is talking about Armenian culture except you here. The fact that your trying to twist the nature of my complaint into something it's not is just a poor reflection of your moral character.

Phyre does not come from America. She does not come from England. She does not come from any country that speaks English as a first language. She appears to come from somewhere near the Caucuses and has a name appropriate to one of those cultures. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Tell me where I'm losing you and I will try to explain it better.

Lashing out at me, personally, isn't going to make your bad argument into a good one.

 

[Baalzamon85]

Phyre does not come from America. She does not come from England. She does not come from any country that speaks English as a first language. She appears to come from somewhere near the Caucuses and has a name appropriate to one of those cultures. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Tell me where I'm losing you and I will try to explain it better.

Lashing out at me, personally, isn't going to make your bad argument into a good one.

let me tell you a little secret, Phyre isnt real. Its a video game character designed for a primarily western audience, you can play this game all you want on twitter/x but to everyone else you sound ridiculous.

 

[Phibs]

I cannot find a single official reference to the name being armenian (not that it would matter, if they named a character Hilarius because something something roman that'd be equally cringe). This seems to mostly be people googling the name and finding random baby naming sites.

 

[Jia Xu]

let me tell you a little secret, Phyre isnt real. Its a video game character designed for a primarily western audience, you can play this game all you want on twitter/x but to everyone else you sound ridiculous.

Phyre isn't real yet you've been complaining about her for the last 9 months. Where have the developers said that the game is for any specific audience instead of being for everyone? Also, Armenia is literally preparing its application to the European Union. It doesn't get much more western than that. lol

And again, feel free to explode at me, personally, because you don't like the name of a video game character. Whatever works!

 

[Jia Xu]

I cannot find a single official reference to the name being armenian (not that it would matter, if they named a character Hilarius because something something roman that'd be equally cringe). This seems to mostly be people googling the name and finding random baby naming sites.

Read the topic. I already mentioned that the writers said on the official Discord that it was pitched to them as an Armenian name. That's where it comes from. Exact quote:

'It's an Armenian name' was how it was pitched to us

 

[Phibs]

Read the topic. I already mentioned that the writers said on the official Discord that it was pitched to them as an Armenian name. That's where it comes from.

Found your posts. Not for nothing, but I find it not implausible that the writers (or whoever pitched the name to them) also looked up names on https://www.momjunction.com/ to find this gem.

Doesn't mean it's prevalent to the point of warranting your little spiel about cultural respect and whatnot. I mean I cannot find any reference to an actual person named phyre online. Not a one. So maybe we're not insulting the entire country of armenia atm. Just maybe.

And as I indicated, consider the audience. The way the name sounds to the english speaking world is of import and should be understandable to people in Seattle and Portsmouth.

edit: I mean, leave culture out of it. There's plenty of weird anglo/western names. Name the main char Humbert or Ottilie and watch the comments pour in.

 

[Jia Xu]

Found your posts. Not for nothing, but I find it not implausible that the writers (or whoever pitched the name to them) also looked up names on https://www.momjunction.com/ to find this gem.

Doesn't mean it's prevalent to the point of warranting your little spiel about cultural respect and whatnot. I mean I cannot find any reference to an actual person named phyre online. Not a one. So maybe we're not insulting the country of armenia atm. Just maybe.

And as I said, consider the audience. The way the name sounds to the english speaking world is of import and should be understandable to people in Seattle and Portsmouth.

See, now you're in the business of making things up. The writers explicitly said it was pitched to them as an Armenian name. This part where you say they got it form a specific place is based on exactly zero evidence.

Again, I think you need an Etymology lesson. Phyre is old Greek. Aremenia used to have many common Greek names as it used to be part of the Roman Empire. Many of those names faded out over time or were replaced by local variants. So, Phyre would have been replaced by Hurik and other local variants. What that tells us is that Phyre is very old (and she is).

By the way, try these:

https://www.ancestry.ca/search/categories/34/?name=phyre

phyre - Ancestry.com

Hundreds of years ago, this was common as both a given name and a surname. You're just objectively wrong. Sorry.

 

[Phibs]

See, now you're in the business of making things up. The writers explicitly said it was pitched to them as an Armenian name. This part where you say they got it form a specific place is based on exactly zero evidence.

Easy there, bud. I did not claim to know. I said it's plausible. And in no way did I contradict that this was 'pitched' to them as armenian, which tells us nothing, really. So there.

Again, I think you need an Etymology lesson. Phyre is old Greek. Aremenia used to have many common Greek names as it used to be part of the Roman Empire. Many of those names faded out over time or were replaced by local variants. So, Phyre would have been replaced by Hurik and other local variants. What that tells us is that Phyre is very old (and she is).

I looked it up online and in my ancient Greek/German school dictionary, since I did take the subject in school. Nowhere to be found.
Not with phi anyways. There's of course πῦρ pir/pur/pyr (however one would wish to transliterate it).

So if you know more, share.

edit: I mean, leave culture out of it. There's plenty of weird anglo/western names. Name the main char Humbert or Ottilie and watch the comments pour in.

Also, again, this.

 

[Jia Xu]

Easy there, bud. I did not claim to know. I said it's plausible. And in no way did I contradict that this was 'pitched' to them as armenian, which tells us nothing, really. So there.


I looked it up online and in my ancient Greek/German school dictionary, since I did take the subject in school. Nowhere to be found.
Not with phi anyways. There's of course πῦρ pir/pur/pyr (however one would wish to transliterate it).

So if you know more, share.


Also, again, this.

Sorry, my edit came in late and you may have missed it while you were typing this up.

https://www.ancestry.ca/search/categories/34/?name=phyre
phyre - Ancestry.com

This used to be common as all of a given name, baptismal name, and family name. Look at the dates on some of those registries. They go back centuries! This is an old timey name that isn't popular anymore like a lot of old timey names. Old vampires should have old timey names.

 

[Phibs]

Sorry, my edit came in late and you may have missed it while you were typing this up.

https://www.ancestry.ca/search/categories/34/?name=phyre
phyre - Ancestry.com

This used to be common as all of a given name, baptismal name, and family name. Look at the dates on some of those registries. They go back centuries! This is an old timey name that isn't popular anymore like a lot of old timey names. Old vampires should have old timey names.

The first name list barely contain phyre as a first name. After the first page it goes to phyra, phre, phare, phere and whatnot. Very few mentions, actually.

And all of them seem to be anglos and francos (which is probably the intended audience of the site, but all the same).

 

[Jia Xu]

The first name list barely contain phyre as a first name. After the first page it goes to phyra, phre, phare, phere and whatnot. Very few mentions, actually.

And all of them seem to be anglos and francos (which is probably the intended audience of the site, but all the same).

Those are all the same name. Different languages have different spellings. Just like how John becomes Johannes, Johan, Joan, Jann, Jean, Ioannis, etc, etc., etc.

 

[Phibs]

Those are all the same name. Different languages have different spellings. Just like how John becomes Johannes, Johan, Joan, Jann, Jean, Ioannis, etc, etc., etc.

That's neat and all. But let's remember where we started.

Not laughing at other people's cultures, armenian in particular. Then we pivoted to greek and old timey names.

So if you're no long advancing that there's an army of phyres out there being insulted by our insensitive remarks, I'll take it.

And if you're not in the mood to look up the supposed greek etymological path of the name, that's also fine.

But the name having existed at some point to some small degree really doesn't do much for me.


Anywho, I'm off to lunch.

 

[Jia Xu]

That's neat and all. But let's remember where we started.

Not laughing at other people's cultures, armenian in particular. Then we pivoted to greek and old timey names.

So if you're no long advancing that there's an army of phyres out there being insulted by our insensitive remarks, I'll take it.

And if you're not in the mood to look up the supposed greek etymological path of the name, that's also fine.

But the name having existed at some point to some small degree really doesn't do much for me.


Anywho, I'm off to lunch.

Greek names are incredibly common all over Europe. One of the most common Anglo-French names, even to this day, is Sophia/Sophie (which is Greek for wisdom).

The Greek etymological root is kinda obvious isn't it? The root is Pyr which we use even in English for all kinds of things related to fire like Pyromania. Pyrotechnics, etc.

Listen, you're welcome to not like the name "Phyre." You like what you like. You're absolutely entitled to that. Just don't be like the other people pretending this is some teen edgelord name. It's objectively not true.

 

[Baalzamon85]

Greek names are incredibly common all over Europe. One of the most common Anglo-French names, even to this day, is Sophia/Sophie (which is Greek for wisdom).

The Greek etymological root is kinda obvious isn't it? The root is Pyr which we use even in English for all kinds of things related to fire like Pyromania. Pyrotechnics, etc.

Listen, you're welcome to not like the name "Phyre." You like what you like. You're absolutely entitled to that. Just don't be like the other people pretending this is some teen edgelord name. It's objectively not true.

Maybe I gave you too much credit it seems like you don't understand the difference if you come across the name a history book, people would go oh thats funny name , then don't care. It's totally different matter if it you see that name and go oh that's soo cool, that's the perfect name for our video game protagonist! It's like there is no sane person at TCR going, hey maybe that's a bit too cringe for a vampire game. Phyre isnt cringe as an historical name for Armenian history, it is for a vampire game taking place in Seattle. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

 

[Jia Xu]

Maybe I gave you too much credit it seems like you don't understand the difference if you come across the name a history book, people would go oh thats funny name , then don't care. It's totally different matter if it you see that name and go oh that's soo cool, that's the perfect name for our video game protagonist! It's like there is no sane person at TCR going, hey maybe that's a bit too cringe in for a vampire game. Phyre isnt cringe as an historical name for Armenian history, it for a vampire game taking place in Seattle. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

This is an argument based on feelings, not facts. Insulting the mental health of the people at TCR because you dislike the name of a fictional video game characters demonstrates a lack of maturity. You seem to believe that anyone doing something you don't like can only be the result of a personal defect.

Bloodlines 2 is about a vampire who was born hundreds of years ago. She has a name that reflects the age she was born in. It's not a hard concept to grasp. You don't seem to appreciate that Phyre is not from Seattle. She is from another continent, thousands of miles away, and her torpid body was dragged to Seattle as she slept.

 

[Baalzamon85]

This is an argument based on feelings, not facts. Insulting the mental health of the people at TCR because you dislike the name of a fictional video game characters demonstrates a lack of maturity. You seem to believe that anyone doing something you don't like can only be the result of a personal defect.

Bloodlines 2 is about a vampire who was born hundreds of years ago. She has a name that reflects the age she was born in. It's not a hard concept to grasp. You don't seem to appreciate that Phyre is not from Seattle. She is from another continent, thousands of miles away, and her torpid body was dragged to Seattle as she slept.

Your only arguments is to misconstrue anyone who criticise bl2 to the point of pathological absurdity.

 

[Jia Xu]

Your only arguments is to misconstrue anyone who criticise bl2 to the point of pathological absurdity.

No, my arguments are based on evidence. The kind of evidence that appears in the forms of links you can click on!

Your arguments are based on "no sane person would choose a name that I don't like." That's it. Your argument literally does not go further than that. lol

 

[Baalzamon85]

No, my arguments are based on evidence. The kind of evidence that appears in the forms of links you can click on!

Your arguments are based on "no sane person would choose a name that I don't like." That's it. Your argument literally does not go further than that. lol

Your "evidence" is irrelevant, i never disputed that Phyre is an old Armenian name only that it means nothing in this context they could have gone with a thousand different names but they went with something that sounds ridiculous to most adults, you don't have the authority to decide what sounds cringe to people.

 

[Jia Xu]

Your "evidence" is irrelevant, i never disputed that Phyre is an old Armenian name only that it means nothing in this context they could have gone with a thousand different names but the went with something that sounds ridiculous to most adults, you don't have the authority to decide what sounds cringe to people.

Okay, so you're back to insulting foreign names as something that "sounds ridiculous to most adults." Once again, this is a feelings based argument and it's not even an argument you can prove.

I'll tell you exactly what I told the other guy. You're welcome to not like the name "Phyre." You like what you like. You're absolutely entitled to that. But say that. Say that you just don't like it because of completely arbitrary emotions. Don't make up a story about it not having any roots or that's it's just some teen Twilight name like you were saying earlier. It is objectively not true and I proved that beyond any doubt.