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Interesting, please expand on the benefits of AC!

Hi Sjovall - welcome to the AAR.

This is one of the things I hit on playing as France. They have some Inf Divs with attached AC and initially I wasn't at all sure. What I noticed pretty quickly was these formations were really tough when up against infantry - the AC brigades forced Inf to use some attacks as hard not soft and that reduced overall damage, they also pack a nice punch. Those were also the only divisions that could stand up to Pzrs and not collapse on the spot.

So they are cheap - you get practical that feeds off into mot and later mech inf if you go that way, hard (which certainly early war more than compensates for them not looking as effective as say artillery).

If by late war when Inf have better Hard attack I find the advantage has been lost a bit, I can always re-use - either as yet another boost to the Cav Divs or with motorised inf. I'm pretty sure I'll end up in some sort of war in China and I think they would be ideal for terrain where you might not want to commit conventional armour.
 
intersting thanks, I just restarted Ger '36 with the 1.2 upgrade and had not considered ACs, could easily be repurposed in later years as an effective and fast moving occupation maintenance vs. Partisans and Militia uprisings
 
If I've interpreted what happened properly - I 'think' the divs with AC lost org less quickly and the AC brigades were still well organised even when the division hit 0 - then you start to see the logic in what I think the US/Germans did when they allocated TD/SPA/Assault Guns to otherwise Infantry forces. For most nations, this would be too expensive so my AC gambit is an attempt to do it on the cheap.

If I get a limited winter war, I'll keep an eye on this and see how it works out in practice.
 
A Corridor in the Kremlin

Molotov is running to Stalin's office with the latest evidence of the Chief's displeasure:



Raised voices are heard behind a closed door:

JS: You told us the international scene was quiet;
M: We have no spies in Germany
JS: This is so big we don't need spies to warn us!
M: At least we briefed you properly this time.

Stalin takes a deep breath

JS: ... and another thing, I thought you told the Mongolians and Tavu to stop 'influencing'
M: ... yes ...
JS: Well tell them again, its Sinkiang or nowhere - I now hear they are trying to impress Belgium - better beer than Canada but otherwise????

Molotov wisely keeps quiet.

JS: (now just getting into the mood) and ... these trades - I've reviewed them and cancelled a load with the Americans,
M: .... but we were earning money!
JS: - which we don't need and you were selling supplies that we do!
M: - Comrade Stalin - International economics was never your strong point - if you remember your solution to a cash problem in the old days was to rob a bank.

Stalin - just keeps silent ...

M: So this is the newly named 'Molotov doctrine' - we will bring about the peaceful collapse of Capitalism by first ensuring we have all their money. Then they cannot trade amongst themselves and their economies will wither.

Stalin gets rather annoyed

JS: First we will revert to the 'Stalin doctrine' - money down, supplies up, we can shoot capitalists with bullets. Second, we don't want any peaceful collapses thank you very much. If Davidovich (ie Trotsky) heres you say that he will write another book on how we have betrayed Lenin's legacy. Also all this expenditure on the armed forces is so we can use them. If these capitalist countries just 'collapse' we might end up with too many independent communists around - just look at your problems in telling the Mongolians what to do .... Belgium ... pah.

JS: ... and another thing - why does my handwriting look like something out of a Norse myth ????

Molotov emerges looking shaken. He wonders if Silvio is available for a chat?
 
Poor Molotov, having to answer difficult questions about Norse myths...:D
 
JS: Well tell them again, its Sinkiang or nowhere - I now hear they are trying to impress Belgium - better beer than Canada but otherwise????
Don't forget about Belgian waffles, and chocolate, and Brussels sprouts... Okay, maybe not the latter. ;)

Molotov is very fortunate to merely have his 'Molotov Doctrine' dismissed by Stalin. Many others would be on their way to the Gulag or a firing squad for daring to disobey Comrade Stalin's will.
 
Those plucky Tuvans and their diplomats. I can imagine the Belgian governments reaction to Tanu Tuva and Mongolia trying to incite them to join the Comintern. Something along the lines of "You guys have an embassy?":p

loki100 said:
Mind you every time I feel a bit sorry for myself in this respect, I just read Renssler's Portugal AAR ....
I think the same thing. Makes it hard to complain when at least the Soviet leadership is in double digits.:rolleyes:
 
Molotov is very fortunate to merely have his 'Molotov Doctrine' dismissed by Stalin. Many others would be on their way to the Gulag or a firing squad for daring to disobey Comrade Stalin's will

There is actually a serious point behind this - the USSR is not blessed with a good set of ministers, so whilst you read in other AARs of people being able to select to fit their particular strategy, most of the time you either have no choice, or its pretty indifferent which you select. Anyway, Molotov *has* to survive till the pact fires - I don't think the AI is that responsive it uses the name of the actual Soviet foreign minister.

Those plucky Tuvans and their diplomats. I can imagine the Belgian governments reaction to Tanu Tuva and Mongolia trying to incite them to join the Comintern. Something along the lines of "You guys have an embassy?"

Actually this, and the incidence of spies from wierd and small places does make me wonder as to what priorities the AI sets itself around leadership. If I was doing a Mongolian AAR, I just can't imagine any resource being assigned to anything but research and officers, and the very occassional diplomat if I wanted to buy a licence from the USSR.
 
May Day speech at the Supreme Soviet

The following is an edited extract of Comrade Stalin's speech to a closed session of the Supreme Soviet on 1 May 1938.

International Matters.

Comrades it is with some sadness that I have to report our efforts to resist Fascism in Spain seem to have failed. Madrid fell in early March and the legal government now only holds scattered towns in the South and East. Although we will avenge this defeat at a later stage, for the moment we cannot continue to commit resources to Spain (ie the NKVD spyring in the Nationalist area will be wound down).

The war in the Far East is still static, although the Japanese have lost some more ground in southern Manchuria. Beijing holds out, some 9 months after it was surrounded.

In Europe, we are finally convinced that Germany has major hostile intentions. The absorption of Austria is convincing evidence and Germany is now the only target for Soviet spying and subversion. Confusingly, Italy really likes us (+179 now) so we are not sure as to how stable their current alliance with Germany really is.

NKVD

The effort that SMERSH (yep for James Bond fans - it really existed, it was the NKVD domestic counter-espionage unit) put into killing enemy spies in the early year has paid off. Our scientists have been able to work unhindered and as a result our neutrality has dropped to 63, allowing us to pass new conscription laws on 4 March.

We are finally receiving some intelligence from Germany and it is possible that their conquest of Austria was less well received than Hitler may have wanted:



(I'm using 'none' as a mission as the manual/strategy guide suggests they are less useful but also less vulnerable in that role. Once I get to 7-8, it'll be play time in the Reich ...:rolleyes:)

Industrial effort.

Our research into industrial technology has seen further advances in the productivity of Soviet industry as has the process of building a new Industrial region in Central Asia. Our engineers can now commission a new plant in less than 300 days and at cost of 3.89 IC. Also as a result of Scientific advances, we are starting to build stronger defences at some key ports and improve our communications network on the Moscow-Minsk axis. This will help alleviate some of our major supply delivery problems:



(even at peace, and very early in the build up, there is too much 'red' on this particular map!)

A secondary advantage of this, is we will gain further construction bonuses, thus making all sorts of infrastructure much cheaper.

Leadership and Technology

We now have 17.88 leadership following recent educational research, we are keeping to 13 research teams as in general these are now working efficiently. The rest are split 2.69 spies (ie 0.13 per day) and 2.19 officers (13 a day). This allocation is critical and we will keep it under review but the hope is to have enough spies to build up a presence in Germany despite their counter-espionage.

In areas we have been researching since 1936 our research times are dropping remarkably:



What this shows is the advantage of practical & theory - the bottom 2 techs were started on the same day, the Mikulin is part of the LArm tech (ie level 1) and the encryption tech keys off electronic engineering where I have almost no theory or practical.

Production

Despite the growing fear of war, we do not see any need to alter our basic plans for this year. We are slowly running down our supply stockpiles so as to build construction projects and integrate new weaponry. The additional troops that come from improving our conscription laws also need training and that cost we aim to meet as a priority. We are starting a modest programme of fixed AA and also will build some additional airbases - particularly in Central Asia so we can protect strategically vital resources.
 
Quick request to any lurking German players - I don't want to 'cheat' and load up as Germany - but just how feasible is that level of dissent. I know that with one spy lieing low and reading newspapers in a cafe in Berlin, I could well be getting wrong info!
 
I have yet to see German dissent raise over 5% in my 1936 German 1.2 game...
I think your spy is sampling too much German beer and not enough vodka....

(love your AAR btw...)
 
Comrade Orlov becomes a hero of the Soviet Union

That dissent seems awfully high. Germany should have some dissent if they've had Anchluss.
I have yet to see German dissent raise over 5% in my 1936 German 1.2 game...
I think your spy is sampling too much German beer and not enough vodka....

Thanks, it did seem a bit optimistic ... However,

I *think* I've worked out how to play the spy game and succeed. I'm now sending a new spy to Germany every 7-8 days and so far they are all at none (yep I have visions of a Soviet cell sitting in a beer hall in Berlin enjoying themselves at the expense of the Russian tax payer), I've found that German dissent is really 0 (so single spies are a bit of a waste). Its now 5 June and I have 6 in place.

So if you want to do serious subversion in a major that has decent counter-espionage, do it big time or stay away. And to build critical mass, use the 'none' mission to hide till you want to do malicious things.

If I'm right, at my current level of spy generation, I can keep Germany at 8-10 (I should be able to balance out losses over time), and then go for another country. I sort of fancy a democracy as I can test the subversion/build up a Communist Pary model.

So here's this AAR's first and last user-survey. Do I:

a) go for Sweden - if the road to war is historic, I'll conquer Finland at some stage (ie not in Winter War but as part of Great Patriotic War) and Sweden would be a nice addition to a burgeoning Soviet empire; or
b) go for the US - it'd certainly solve my problem with a load of scrap metal mascarading as a fleet.

(love your AAR btw...)

VA_Magoo - many thanks, high praise indeed
 
I say go for the USA and see if you can keep them out of the Allies. That'll make it simpler for you in the post-war to muscle the Allies around and do what you will with Europe. You can always invade Sweden at some point and make them a client state.

Though from strictly a game perspective Sweden is probably the better choice for a couple reasons. They have a smaller leadership pool which means fewer spies, and you don't need to worry about possible negatives of them acting ahistorically.
 
I agree the German dissent is very high, been playing Ger starting in 36 on the 1.2 upgrade and there have been 2 events that combined would have raised dissent to 15+ if I hadn't adapted production of good appropriately. There was an event about the capture of a opposition leader (dissent +10%) and one about finding an opposition printing press (dissent +5%).

Have not done Anchluss yet, hmmm your German Ai does not seem to be taking care of things at home!

I prefer to change history, if you have the opportunity the Swedish Bikini team should be brout into the Union! :rolleyes:
 
Seeing what you can do with an active spy program should be very interesting. Maybe something to learn, for me (I tend to stick my spies the 'none' mission, so that I have a fairly accurate picture of the country, but haven't had the ambition to play around with other options).

As far as your target for additional espionage goes, I'd go with the USA. If, as VILenin suggests, you can keep the US out of the Allies, that would be a major coup and a big step on the road to a successful world revolution (at least in Europe).
 
ComTrav: A country with "open society" will have a much harder time keeping out your spies. Do you have anyone in mind?

I think I might have hit on this gambit a bit late, so am in a bit of a dither between keeping it simple (def going to have to keep a load going to Germany) or being ambitious.

So far I've had mixed success with 'open' countries. I don't think I've lost a single spy in France but can't get a toehold in the UK. Assume the French AI for some reason doesn't do counter-espionage.

Sjovall1: I agree the German dissent is very high, been playing Ger starting in 36 on the 1.2 upgrade and there have been 2 events that combined would have raised dissent to 15+ if I hadn't adapted production of good appropriately. There was an event about the capture of a opposition leader (dissent +10%) and one about finding an opposition printing press (dissent +5%

I keep on getting v different screen shots on this, in some its down at 0 and in others around 15. I'm not going to have a peek as its rather fun not being sure - would be more fun if I was more certain than the German AI was up to planning towards a Barbarossa, if it was, I'd be up to all sorts of malice.

VILenin: I say go for the USA and see if you can keep them out of the Allies. That'll make it simpler for you in the post-war to muscle the Allies around and do what you will with Europe. You can always invade Sweden at some point and make them a client state.

Though from strictly a game perspective Sweden is probably the better choice for a couple reasons. They have a smaller leadership pool which means fewer spies, and you don't need to worry about possible negatives of them acting ahistorically
Seeing what you can do with an active spy program should be very interesting. Maybe something to learn, for me (I tend to stick my spies the 'none' mission, so that I have a fairly accurate picture of the country, but haven't had the ambition to play around with other options).

As far as your target for additional espionage goes, I'd go with the USA. If, as VILenin suggests, you can keep the US out of the Allies, that would be a major coup and a big step on the road to a successful world revolution (at least in Europe).

Aye its a fun decision and one I need to make and stick to. Keeping the US out of the allies, and even better quite liking me, is a real gain. One problem in HOI2 was you could build a navy that could handle the UK and even Japan (this was helped by lots of TAC patrolling in the Far East) but not the US.

My instinct is what I need is: lots of spies (thats the 'easy' bit), a strong Communist Party, damage NU and then hope for an election, and all that before the US drifts off into a faction.

I think I'm getting to the core of the dilemna I have with this AAR. I want a reasonably historic Barbarossa, I sort of suspect reading other AARs that unmodded at the moment HOI3 won't deliver that off a 36 GC. So the way to have fun is to throw away a too historic mindset and use the game as its set up.

However, my feeling is that time (in the game) is against me. Not sure when the next US election is scheduled but if its before 41 I can't see me getting all the bits in place. So Sweden it is - my goal will be to bring Sweden 'volunarily' into the Comintern. Puppet Finland and Norway at some stage and I have a pro-Soviet Scandivania.

I also want to really test out what sort of nasty things I can do with those spies in Germany. The boring/obvious choices are 'raise threat' and muddle up their research effort. I guess till they conquer something the revolt options won't pay off. ... decisions ... decisions.
 
The real story behind the T-34

A short play in 2 acts:

Act 1: The Politburo 14 November 1938

Context - Even by his standards, Stalin has been bad tempered and ominously playing with a folder of papers all meeting. The meeting is just ending.

JS: "... and I have one more issue to raise" {extracts a translated copy of a recent article in Le Monde) - "there is much to this story that concerns me"

Others look subdued.

JS: "At first it is good - the British and French seem to have got the message" {Stalin starts to read} ... "whilst more press coverage of Stalin's speech on the 21st anniversary of the revolution has concentrated on the threats he made, we believe the speech is more significant than that. Following Britain and France's failure to prevent the German occupation of Czechoslavakia on 3 October, Stalin said several times: We now believe we are alone, we must make our own arrangements to secure peace for the Soviet Union - clearly we can no longer rely on the League of Nations. Stalin went on to accuse the British in particular of being misled by Hitler's claims to be righting the wrongs of Versailles - Stalin stressed that the Soviet Union had also faced territorial wrongs in 1917-19 and was now powerful enough to correct these. Many observers read this as a direct threat to the Baltic States, Poland and Finland"

Others look more cheerful - maybe this will not be so bad after all - he seems pleased.

JS: " ... but, the rest I do not like to read - listen ... 'interpreting Soviet domestic politics is always complex and staff at the French embassy suggested that Kaganovich and Orlov were close to Stalin and Kalinin as a mark of favour with recent research, industrial and espionage sucesses. Some observers believed that Molotov was absent but in fact he was hidden behind a pillar"

Stalin stares at Molotov

JS: "I thought you were told to stay away?"

Molotov looks guilty

Stalin carries on reading:

JS "the military attache believed that the Light Armour and Artillery on display was extremely modern, however he described the T-28 medium tank as out of date, some what square and looking somewhat 'British', unlike our new sleek, curvy, sexy new S-35"

Stalin explodes

JS "when the red army arrives in Paris we will not do so in tanks that look 'british', the red army needs tanks with curves"

Stalin stares at Kaganovich and Shaposhnikov

JS "you two ... does this tank we are now researching - the BT7- look 'british'? If so go and change it.

Act 2

An hour later in Kaganovich's office. Shaposhnilov is present. They look at the plans and models for the BT-7.

BS - "well its less square"
LK - "not enough .. maybe we can use some of Molotov's money and buy some S-35s for the MayDay parade next year .. he might not notice?"

They summon the scientists and engineers who design Soviet tanks. They are left in no doubt that if the BT-7 cannot be given curves, the T-34 will. They sensibly omit to pass on Stalin's demand it be sexy too.
 
:rofl: BTW I just love the dialogue between JS and the rest of the Politburo, keep it up!

I think I might have hit on this gambit a bit late, so am in a bit of a dither between keeping it simple (def going to have to keep a load going to Germany) or being ambitious.

So far I've had mixed success with 'open' countries. I don't think I've lost a single spy in France but can't get a toehold in the UK. Assume the French AI for some reason doesn't do counter-espionage.

I start to wonder if this is not a bug issue. In several games now as Germany, France seems to roll over even when listed as having mid level counter espionage, I have had 10 spies in France for a year+. But when I try to get spies in the US, USSR and Britain, even when maxed on priority I get the toe hold with one and then they are found out and eliminated.