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@GM Have I missed a sub announcement? Joebthegreat is posting like he is in the game, but he isn't in the player list and I dont see a post from you saying who he is subbing.
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Clarice is humancalculator.
I had written Dublish's name down accidentally instead of Joeb's in the player list.
Ogling babes while protected can get uncomfortable, but not as uncomfortable as getting hit there while unprotected. The next pitch was a little below waist high and swinging in close to the body.
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Kurfble flexed slightly, as if checking that they were both still there. Not that he really needed the protection, not since the time in the minor leagues and that pitcher who liked to see whether the rookies were properly clad. That was how he acquired his name. Not from what he did to the pitch, but what he did to the pitcher. It was a good name though, well worth the suspension and fine to acquire. When a pitch drifted a little too close to the batter, and they exchanged glares, it was the pitcher that ended up feeling a little bit intimidated. There would likely be a little less zing on the next one and Kurfble would easily be able to
place it into right field for a single while the runner advanced to third.
It was at this point Kurfble realised he had made a serious miscalculation.
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Kurfble flexed slightly, as if checking that they were both still there. Not that he really needed the protection, not since the time in the minor leagues and that pitcher who liked to see whether the rookies were properly clad. That was how he acquired his name. Not from what he did to the pitch, but what he did to the pitcher. It was a good name though, well worth the suspension and fine to acquire. When a pitch drifted a little too close to the batter, and they exchanged glares, it was the pitcher that ended up feeling a little bit intimidated. There would likely be a little less zing on the next one and Kurfble would easily be able to
place it into right field for a single while the runner advanced to third.
It was at this point Kurfble realised he had made a serious miscalculation.
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I'm terribly sorry, but, where I come from, ''safe to assume'' means at least, I dunno know, 95% sure?
If were both villagers, which is still the most probable suggestion, the wolves will know, obviously so they won't hunt you but you'll almost certainly be lynched the next day as I am a villager, either way, there's no point turning this into a race between both of us as if we are both villagers then today will be completely useless for analysing later on (not thats likely anyway, but...)
If everybody would just take 1 minute to read through my previous post you will understand how joeb has no logical motive for outing me if he was a villager, so its either a spur of the moment half thought plan by a goodie or a calculated gamble by a wolf
Could you please actually read this? Is it too much to ask?
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So if were both villagers then you might not be killed? Yes you're right, but theres not a lot of point going after me is there? I know you're just visualising all possible scenarios, but you haven't told me how you hope to survive if I am a wolf, thus you haven't told me a real reason for outing me, the fact is, by your outing, you made it virtually impossible for either of us to survive to the end, as if i die as a goodie then you'll always be a suspect, and if I'm a wolf you'll be killed eventually, but if thats the downside of being active and trying to analyze at least, then so be it
I was going to, and then you just included that awfully distracting stupid part.
OK, sure, we're over that part now right? What I meant is that I'd rather assume you were a wolf than assume wolves will never blatently defend each other.
Every game starts somewhere. It's not completely useless. My argument is simple, and you have done nothing to refute it. YOU ARE BLATENTLY DEFENDING ANTRACER! You voted to save him, you went after the only surviving person who voted for him, and immediately after the update you made a post defending him before anyone had said anything (relevant anyway).
Outing you eh?
I'll tell you a perfectly logical motive. I want to find a wolf. Therefore, I will pick up on and attack someone for something I see as wolfish. Even if that seems like a bad idea for my own survival. That's what I do. You can argue the whole "if we're both villagers than this is how it's going to play out" but frankly, it never plays out that way because everyone is so busy second guessing how things are going to play out. That's the point of my post there, is I was making fun of how deep people look into simple things.
This isn't some kind of calculated gamble, plan, or anything. This is me making a BASIC ARGUMENT that you have so far REFUSED TO REFUTE. You have offered up attack after attack as to my motive for outing you, but I'm not outing you, merely pointing out something I found suspicious.
Again with me outing you.
Look, that entire part of my post was a joke at how far people look into things. So this entire portion of the debate is moot. Still, I'll humor you.
My point has nothing to do with my long term survival or yours. I am merely pointing something out that you did that I found odd...
Now, I've read a few fun little books about debating. Here's a simple tip paraphrased: "If you're in the middle of a debate, and your opponent gets really angry and flustered, then keep arguing whatever it is you were arguing, because you've obviously reached a weak point in their argument, whether you realize it or not"
You have gotten extremely upset over me pointing out that your extreme defense of antracer was odd. You haven't argued against that point, but instead tried to attack me and my motives for making that argument. It's fun, really. While I respect your enthusiasm, you do yourself a disservice by getting so personally upset.
Hey, you've nailed that point at least. Yes, being active kills people. It won't stop me from posting my thoughts in this game, or any other WW game.
Now, quit wasting my time unless you want to post an actual reason you decided to go ahead and outright defend antracer (not just in your vote, but why you felt the need to defend him today and go after the only surviving person who voted him). If I hear one more stupid argument about my possible motives for outing anybody, I'll do absolutely nothing about it.
And in more serious news, EUROO7, I forgive you for singlehandedly destroying my wolfpack in the first game I played with you...
We need some cat fight emoticons... Where's EURO when we need him. The one with the bleeding eyes just isn't the right one for this...
If it makes you feel less worried, I never care as much about my arguments as my posts make it sound. I just rarely use smilies in my arguments and always end up sounding pissed off...
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I think joeb makes sense not sure though will have to read through it again
I think joeb makes sense not sure though will have to read through it again
Last time I was this popular was the delivery room... Just after they smacked me upside the head because I hadn't studied for the breathing test and was failing miserably...
I believe this is what you call your basic 'setup'.
And remember, 'roids make you angry. They also interfere with your basic reproductive qualities, which as a baseball mega star can have serious tabloid implications when cruising for action after the game. That makes a roid user even angrier than the roids themselves...
Though I am greatful for the reprieve. I should be, right...? Another day, another $2.13 after taxes and all that...
Especially if it involves me and any kind of trampoline contraption...
They didn't have a part about this in your argument book...? This type of retort is in a few of the books I have read. It's a bad move. It shows your weakness as much as anger. Never cut off a part of someone's argument this way. You alienate them, denying yourself the chance to prevail. You also minimize the amount your listener will get from you by fostering the attitude 'well, if he won't listen to me...' Better to have a short and sweet reply to steer the 'discussion' to the aforementioned grounds that are shaky. In this way, the action becomes associated with a negative feeling in the other person, and they will naturally begin to steer away from it to avoid the negative they are experiencing. It will prompt them to move to a more positive position, which exposes more fronts for you to exploit... It's nice to see I'm not the only one who likes to type...
I suppose I should vote.
But I think I'll wait for a count update from Yoshi.
PS: I never worry. It's a pointless activity. And I love a good argument. It's painful to lose, but worth the effort if learn something or glean a useful tidbit. So long as you respect your opposition and have an open mind to the fact you *may* be mistaken... And I didn't get the feeling you were pissed off at all. Not yet anyways...
And yes. I HAVE to use smileys. I always sound serious and pissed off...
They didn't have a part about this in your argument book...? This type of retort is in a few of the books I have read. It's a bad move. It shows your weakness as much as anger. Never cut off a part of someone's argument this way. You alienate them, denying yourself the chance to prevail. You also minimize the amount your listener will get from you by fostering the attitude 'well, if he won't listen to me...' Better to have a short and sweet reply to steer the 'discussion' to the aforementioned grounds that are shaky. In this way, the action becomes associated with a negative feeling in the other person, and they will naturally begin to steer away from it to avoid the negative they are experiencing. It will prompt them to move to a more positive position, which exposes more fronts for you to exploit... It's nice to see I'm not the only one who likes to type...
I said I wouldn't do anything didn't I?
Besides I thought I had already kind of shown the whole motives argument to be irrelevent. Sure he can still use that argument, but how would that not make him look silly? Perhaps my goal is differant than what you think it is?
Anyway, this enlightening conversation makes me want to buy you a beer... I must bow to your ability to manipulate words in such a fasion.
I said I wouldn't do anything didn't I?
Besides I thought I had already kind of shown the whole motives argument to be irrelevent. Sure he can still use that argument, but how would that not make him look silly? Perhaps my goal is differant than what you think it is?
Anyway, this enlightening conversation makes me want to buy you a beer... I must bow to your ability to manipulate words in such a fasion.
The notion you won't do anything is the issue. By saying so, you end his interest. Not a bad thing in the real world when arguing for the case Justin Timberlake is an over rated wannabe, but not so useful when playing a game where future information may be required, will be required. Even a mortal enemy can tell you things without realizing it.
Whether his argument is baseless, or whether it proves nothing is secondary to the main goal of keeping his answers coming. The more he carries on, the more that can be gleaned. It also presents a 'harmless' way for you to disseminate false information, especially from the position you achieved. The fact he ends up 'looking silly' only aids your ability to sound convincing to others who read, and makes him even more valuable to you as a means to influence the game.
I wouldn't dare tell you what you should do, but it seems to me you got to the point where you could do something to effect the game in your favor, and then promptly closed up shop, cut off the contact and walked away...
As for your goal and my understanding of it... Everyone's goal here is different than what anyone thinks... That's kinda the point, isn't it...?
I'll take you up on that beer, and I thank you for the kind words. I hope I am able to stick around awhile to enjoy your tilts. There's many a windmill to be taken down...