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Werewolf Lite CXLVII: Iron Sky - Part One

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Now we're assured that there are THREE WOLVES. I want to see what the four votes for Walrus mean, but there is reasonable suspicion that maybe one wolf tried to hide himself in the six votes. *hic* Why am I making sense? *hic* What am I drinking?

Placeholder Vote:

VOTE WALRUS
 
*laughs at snoop's baddie tell*
 
That shining example of deductive logic is why you tits are hopeless without the seer. I've committed this 'baddy tell' or similar and been lynched for it at least 20 times. The only thing unique about this one is that I was actually a baddy for once.
 
snoopdogg said:
That shining example of deductive logic is why you tits are hopeless without the seer. I've committed this 'baddy tell' or similar and been lynched for it at least 20 times. The only thing unique about this one is that I was actually a baddy for once.
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So who is the idiot here? The people who killed the guy for the baddie tell, or the guy who keps committing it even after he has been killed for it over 20 times?

Anywho, Vote THE_SPLIT

He seemed way too zealous when chasing after Ironhead.
 
OrangeYoshi said:
Anywho, Vote THE_SPLIT

He seemed way too zealous when chasing after Ironhead.
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Better reason to vote for someone than to just say "random"


VOTE THE_SPLIT!
 
OrangeYoshi said:
So who is the idiot here? The people who killed the guy for the baddie tell, or the guy who keps committing it even after he has been killed for it over 20 times?
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I'm not changing the way I play because the villagers are always sheep. Only stupid thing I do is keep signing up in the futile hope one day players will pay attention.
 
A few observations:

1. snoopdogg, as sorcerer, was not in contact with wolves -- so not much voting analysis to be had on the late push to lynch him.

2. Unless walrus turns out to be evil, in which case we look at those who saved him by pushing snoopdogg into the lead at the last moment: jerard, okyriosy, and maybe the_hdk (although he has a good excuse -- breaking a tie).

3. But let's not lynch walrus just for the sake of finding out his role. It is early yet and we can still get some good clues from voting behavior -- as long as we have close votes.

4. Voting the_split for zealotry in voting me is a poor reason, IMO. He had no idea what my alignment was (and he still doesn't -- just because I survived a lynch on a day a baddie was lynched doesn't make me a goodie).

5. So... VOTE ORANGE YOSHI to provide some competition here and because he came up with the excuse for voting the_split.
 
UNVOTE WALRUS

VOTE Nautilu

To place another suspect into play; he wanted a three way tie HERE
 
snoopdogg said:

I'm not changing the way I play because the villagers are always sheep. Only stupid thing I do is keep signing up in the futile hope one day players will pay attention.
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So who is the smarter player? The people who continue to kill other people so they can win, or the player who will not adapt to his situation to allow him to win?

Ironhead 5 said:
A few observations:

1. snoopdogg, as sorcerer, was not in contact with wolves -- so not much voting analysis to be had on the late push to lynch him.
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Ja.

Ironhead 5 said:
2. Unless walrus turns out to be evil, in which case we look at those who saved him by pushing snoopdogg into the lead at the last moment: jerard, okyriosy, and maybe the_hdk (although he has a good excuse -- breaking a tie).
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Ja, ja.

Ironhead 5 said:
3. But let's not lynch walrus just for the sake of finding out his role. It is early yet and we can still get some good clues from voting behavior -- as long as we have close votes.
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Ja, ja, ja.
Ironhead 5 said:
4. Voting the_split for zealotry in voting me is a poor reason, IMO. He had no idea what my alignment was (and he still doesn't -- just because I survived a lynch on a day a baddie was lynched doesn't make me a goodie).
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It is true that he went berserk in both games, but what reason would he have to do so? It was just a private message alert. That PM could have been to anyone. His reaction seems like a huge overreaction, especially since all the roles for both games and been handed out earlier in the day.

I think it was an overreaction to hide something. What? I don't know, but something. Whether he wanted to be the one to call you our for PM'ing before a villager did (because you are packmates), or whether he is a wolf who was freaked out by Ironhead coming back, it was an overreaction, and it showed.

Ciryandor said:
UNVOTE WALRUS

VOTE Nautilu

To place another suspect into play; he wanted a three way tie HERE
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He clearly stated that he made that TIE so that we could gain analysis from seeing who broke it in favor and who they broke it in favor of.
 
OrangeYoshi said:
So who is the idiot here? The people who killed the guy for the baddie tell, or the guy who keps committing it even after he has been killed for it over 20 times?
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...you know, if you kill someone 19 times in a row for the same thing and eahc of those times he turn out to be a villager. WEll, that doesn't seem to bright to me :p

Ciryandor said:

To place another suspect into play; he wanted a three way tie HERE
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So obviously he's a very brilliant young man.

Vote Ciryandor

Obviously you don't realise the power of the TIE.
 
Vote Walrus

I don't have any strong feelings yet. I would like to vote Split a bit more, because his talk of Ironhead's fake bandwagon still doesn't make sense. But that would become rather bandwagony. (I'll be a little busy today and tomorrow, but tomorrow I should have time later if I'm still alive)

Wal [1] - Jamie [173]
Split [2] - Hc [167] Oy [166]
Oy [1] - Ih [169]
Ciry [1] - Lem [172]
Nau [1] - Ciry [170]
None [8] - Wal Hdk Jens Split Jer Nau Op Jonti
 
snoopdogg said:
That shining example of deductive logic is why you tits are hopeless without the seer. I've committed this 'baddy tell' or similar and been lynched for it at least 20 times. The only thing unique about this one is that I was actually a baddy for once.
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Perhaps that is a subtle hint to change your playstyle?

OrangeYoshi said:
So who is the smarter player? The people who continue to kill other people so they can win, or the player who will not adapt to his situation to allow him to win?
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Neither, but both should change grasshopper.



OrangeYoshi said:
He clearly stated that he made that TIE so that we could gain analysis from seeing who broke it in favor and who they broke it in favor of.
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Considering that is about as useful as flipping a coin - I broke a tie because they are a crap method of analysis - and he is experienced enough to know this I think that makes him a valid suspect.

That is of course leaving aside the total vacuity of taking anything someone says in WW at face value.
 
I don't want to trigger a bandwagon on Split, so, untill he shows up to either defend himself, or look more suspicious, and in the interest of staying alive, I'm voting a third party

Vote jerard
 
Wal [1] - Jamie [173]
Split [2] - Hc [167] Oy [166]
Oy [1] - Ih [169]
Ciry [1] - Lem [172]
Nau [1] - Ciry [170]
Jer [1] - Wal [176]
Jens [1] - Hdk [175]
None [6] - Jens Split Jer Nau Op Jonti
 
HDK's logic makes sense to me - wolves would likely try to hide out of the way

Vote OrangeYoshi
 
jonti-h said:
HDK's logic makes sense to me - wolves would likely try to hide out of the way
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I don't know why this statement gives me such a baddie vibe. It just doesn't seem like a normal jonti-h thing to say.

UNVOTE ORANGE YOSHI
VOTE JONTI-H
 
Sight…. That is why I really playing with the “old school” comeback guys…. Never can be sure why they are not getting votes….. because of their status or because of their pack mates….
With that some quick notes that seems a bit strange to me…

1) Hunting of Dublish -- Most likely a noobish hunt order. Lots of other more viable candidates, that I think pro-wolfes could of went for… Jared, Jens, OY, HC, NAU
2) HC and OY behavior -- I call these two the “teeny weenie wolfs” who in my experience also do the most wolfish things when they are baddies and then claim they are doing these things to weed out wolfs or some other bullshit excuses. In most cases these people DO turn out to be wolfes when they behave like one. Also HC has a rather nasty habit of switching his vote on request of some one who threatens him in one way or another….
3) Ciryandor - accusing Nautilu of a three way tie, with 4 hours left is a common tactic used by wolfes….
4) Olaus pAtrus  has received a total of !zero votes! Over the past two days… his vote switch also sealed in the fact that I5 would not be lynched….. I would tend to think he would be doing this to save I5 because of bucket’s very useful analysis, but could be just naïve.


My gut feeling would be to go for HC at this point, just because as we get closer to parity HC could be very easily persuaded by a wolf to switch his vote.
On the other hand as for some reason I already got two votes, I rather urge the village to go for either OY or Ciryandor. Not that I expect to make it to the end of the game, for if I pinged any wolfs in this post I would be a prime target later down the line.

Vote Ciryandor

But I would think we would get much more benefit if we lynch HC, I will change my vote to him if there is support for my idea.
 
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