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Now, now.
It is actually over 30 based on only the last couple months, but I get your point.
However, look at this:
EUROO7 33
Lemeard 28
Rysz 25
snoopdogg 24
OrangeYoshi 23
the_hdk 16
I am certainly not the most active here.
Why? Because I am so pretty?
I am open to looking at new folks, but would like to know why you picked these 5 out of a hat?
But the whole vote snipe fiasco at deadline, along with OrangeYoshi's deleted post means that you two look very suspicious.
As for my label of overactive earlier in regards to OY, it was over the shenanigans that you two were pulling at the end. And any one who goes for a tie this early in the game is still retarded. We are still somewhat early in the game, and it only benefits the baddies to make a tie. Also what the hell was it with the_hdk vote yesterday, did I miss where there was any reason he was a wolf? I guess I am pissed that I am actually trying to analysis this game and we as a village still seem to be doing stupid shit.
And this is exactly what jonti meant, why ties on the first day or second are so problematic. You keep your attention on the same people, forgetting completely about the 9 other players that almost had no attention. Eventually there will be so much material on those people that you can always find a reason to get them lynched, so these will be lynched way before the endgame. And what you have in the end are a bunch of players on which no information at all exists. So you have nothing to analyse in the end, and the wolves have an easy victory.
Also you just throw in some typical soundbites (pun intended), but you don't realize they exclude one another, are just effects of the other thing. Ofcourse I get saved when two other players fight between themselves, but which point are you trying to make? If you say OY and Euro are wolves because they make such a fuzz about deadline by voting each other, how can I be a wolf that "gets saved". Those things don't combine. We can't all three be wolves and still validate what you're saying about our behaviour.
And that will bring us increasingly close before parity. After that we only have one night to "play around", and after that we have to get a wolf EVERY NIGHT or we loose. But if we continue this way, we simply do not have enough material to get the other wolves. And we have to do it all on analysis, since we have no seer!
We need more material on other people.
Therefore I again propose to bring up punkbob. His reasoning is harmful for the village, and he hasn't had much vote yet. Same goes for syber_sid, so I propose for now to bring those two up.
Besides punkbob is one of those that like to hunt jonti early.
Vote punkbob
Ok, lets step back.
First off you are a jackass for bringing Metaing into the game by claiming that I meta and kill jonti over everything else. I never ever want to hear about metagaming again. Ever. I can't look at Jonti the wrong way, lest I be accused of trying to "Meta" him. I hate that he has made it a defense and I hate that you are using it as reason to vote me. The only person I would dare to metagame at this is TT, but that's only because his sig reminds me how much I hate him.
I would also like to remind everyone that it is Day 3. Since I have been accused of focusing on just one set of folks, lets go over each day.
Day 1: It's random, people pick numbers, great anlysis awaits from a day of randomness...
And then the Seer is killed. Well that's great there will now be no JL!
Day 2: I present a theory, it happens to involve Rysz, I admit it's weak and ask for further input. Since I have played a game with Rysz in the past, I am clearly Metaing him. People agree with me, Rysz is in the lead until we see some interesting stuff.
1. OY switches from you to Euro
2. Euro unvotes you
3. Both try and vote snipe
4. Rereading Rysz might be more or less cleared, I was confused by Marty's votes that didn't count. Or not, I really need to write this down. And OY should be kicked from the game for deleting posts. For that alone we should hang him.
Looking back it is Marty99 that is more suspicious. I wasn't getting it, but he was the one that tried to tie, not snoopdogg, it's just that his votes at the end didn't count.
As for Euro and OY, since were talking Meta, there is something going on between them(lover's spat?) and I think that one of them is innocent and the other is a wolf. They can't kill each other because of Rysz accusing me above over killing jonti.
Edit: Day 3: Today, on the second day of any analysis I get accused of throwing up FUD and put forward as a candidate for lynch. It seems wolfish to me, because if Rysz is a wolf he can't just out right eat me, that would seal his fate. So he pulls a classic Jonti, says that I am bad for the village for posting more then one line, and that I should be executed because anyone trying to bring reason into the game is a threat to the wolves.
punkbob, you are completely, and more, missing all the points.
First of, this is not META (I never used that, and never intended to use it). Nor did I accuse you of being meta, just that the eating of jonti is in all cases a significant hunt and it does actually serve as some kind of benchmark. That might be borderline meta (since I use information from past games), but it is not revenge-meta, which is the most common usage for meta-behaviour.
Some players are almost never hunted by some other players, and some are just opposite. Ofcourse, people can always deviate from this, but usually those benchmarks hold. Jonti is one of the (if not, the (with aok and tt gone) ) most active and best player(s). His analysis is always useful, but as a wolf he is equally dangerous. Certain players like to win as a wolf against someone as jonti, others take him as a danger and want him gone asap. Therefore, if he is a villager, his hunting is actually revealing something about the wolves. If he survives hunts and lynches, we have either very good (or daring) wolves, or jonti is one of them (which is often the same
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This is not meta, this is player knowledge. Using all the informatino that is available, because we, as a group of WW players, start to know each others when we play a lot of games together.
As such, this is not personal. Look at the big game, there I confronted other players with behaviour that does not help the village. If any other had done the same, I would react the same.
In a later post (I also need to do some work here, and cannot spend too long in a block at werewolf) I will reply more on the content of your analysis.
First of, this is not META (I never used that, and never intended to use it). Nor did I accuse you of being meta, just that the eating of jonti is in all cases a significant hunt and it does actually serve as some kind of benchmark. That might be borderline meta (since I use information from past games), but it is not revenge-meta, which is the most common usage for meta-behaviour.
Some players are almost never hunted by some other players, and some are just opposite. Ofcourse, people can always deviate from this, but usually those benchmarks hold. Jonti is one of the (if not, the (with aok and tt gone) ) most active and best player(s). His analysis is always useful, but as a wolf he is equally dangerous. Certain players like to win as a wolf against someone as jonti, others take him as a danger and want him gone asap. Therefore, if he is a villager, his hunting is actually revealing something about the wolves. If he survives hunts and lynches, we have either very good (or daring) wolves, or jonti is one of them (which is often the same
)This is not meta, this is player knowledge. Using all the informatino that is available, because we, as a group of WW players, start to know each others when we play a lot of games together.
As such, this is not personal. Look at the big game, there I confronted other players with behaviour that does not help the village. If any other had done the same, I would react the same.
In a later post (I also need to do some work here, and cannot spend too long in a block at werewolf) I will reply more on the content of your analysis.
Vote EUROO7
As of earlier reasons and that's he is a bloody certain wolf.
Though I do not enjoy punkbob's confidence.
As of earlier reasons and that's he is a bloody certain wolf.
Though I do not enjoy punkbob's confidence.
Euro, Rysz; I don't care. Lynching either will clear or damn the other.
Unvote Rysz
Vote Euro
well. looks like we've got ourselves a big problem... It's either you over-analyze or don't analyze anything at all...:rofl:
slightly agreeing with punkbobby, I'm voting OY
Vote OY
die you wolf.
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I only admire your dedication..
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Vote EUROO7
I get a warm, fuzzy feeling inside seeing him die. Also I'm not paying enough attention to form an analysed decision
I get a warm, fuzzy feeling inside seeing him die. Also I'm not paying enough attention to form an analysed decision
Vote EUROO7
his attempt to take someone down with him was a bit strange to say the least. Though I do feel bad for voting him three days in a row.
his attempt to take someone down with him was a bit strange to say the least. Though I do feel bad for voting him three days in a row.