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So, uhm, you have Laws by Decree, HMS Government and Parliamentarism.

I know about the 2, 1, and 0 (respectively) militancy increase for changing the political party, but are there any other effects of the executive designation?
 
I expect you have it. The manual points out that HMS Government and Parliamentarism choose their ruling party by election while Law by Decree selects their ruling party (no elections), but other than that, you state the main difference. The VickyWiki states that the change is in militancy AND consciousness, by the way. I've never actually noticed either way, so I take the VW as authoritative.:D
 
Well, in Law, Laws by Decree represent the action of the government legislating without needing to consult another body. It was what the Kings did as of old. They wanted something changed and issued a decree to change the law to their wish. Thus the government decrees a Law, and it is wholly passed without needing the approval of anyone else. I have no idea what HMS stands for so bleh. Parliamentarism refers to the political action of issueing and legislating laws whereby most of these need approval by the majority of Parliament, Parliament which has been elected by the people and is therefore an accurate representation of the people's will through their representatives, thereby inciting to discussion among the different parties in a parliament to generate consensus. In this type of setting one cannot rule absolutely, since one has to follow the rules of its own constitution, and frequently enough most constitutions had a period of "Law Sickness" (I'm not sure if this is the accurate name in English), where if you legislated a Law of a given subject, you could not legislate a Law which would conflict, replace or override the former Law until that period of sickness had surpassed. (While in the Laws by Decree you could for instance do:
"I, King Peter, by the grace of God, hereby decree to all who are made notice that from now on all citizens shall wear high heels, under the punishment of death"
Then on the next day issue another decree directly contradicting it:
"I, King Peter, by the grace of God, hereby decree to all who are made notice that from now on all citizens shall only walk barefoot, under the punishment of death".
Of course, Parliamentarism also implies that there are elections for the Parliament, but that's obvious.
 
HMS is His/Her Majesty's ehm... Ship? :eek:o

I don't know what the S stands for, but I think it implies a government hand-picked by the monarch :)
 
HMS can stand for a world of things, but in this case I would think it stands for His/Her Majesty's Service.
 
BTW, what Irr. Regulars stands for?

Irregular Regulars?!

Where did you get that from? It doesn't make any sense. There are irregular troops, which are placed by a scenario start but I don't think anyone can build. There are native troops, which can be built in colonies. There are regular troops, which everyone can build in their states. There are regular brigades, which can be added at build time to a regular infantry division.

I must be missing something here.:wacko:
 
Where did you get that from? It doesn't make any sense. There are irregular troops, which are placed by a scenario start but I don't think anyone can build. There are native troops, which can be built in colonies. There are regular troops, which everyone can build in their states. There are regular brigades, which can be added at build time to a regular infantry division.

Don't forget colonial troops, which are raised from state culture POPs in colonies. :)
 
HMS can stand for a world of things, but in this case I would think it stands for His/Her Majesty's Service.
No it's not. SeedSnatcher said it, it's His/Her Majesty's Goverment. Im not exactly sure how this system works, but I guess it is either a parliament appointed by his/her majesty, but as there is elections, the more probable one is the system that is now in use in UK. The parliament is bicameral, and there is a lower chamber (House of Commons in UK) that is elected, and then the upper chamber (House of Lords in UK) that is appointed. By whom it's appointed, I'm not sure. Maybe HM appoints it or the parliament appoints it. First one I think is the more probable one.

BTW, what Irr. Regulars stands for?
I'm not sure about this, but if you build native irregulars they will be "Irr. Natives". If you build them from one of your accepted cultures they will be "Irr. Regulars".
 
Thanks for the answers! I guess parliamentarism is just best, in all cases (even though in some situations it is impossible to achieve).

RELee said:
There are irregular troops, which are placed by a scenario start but I don't think anyone can build.

Uncivilised nations can build irregulars ;). They do, sometimes. It can be rather annoying if they suddenly start spamming those troops, just because the player is conquering them :mad:, how dare they.
 
Uncivilised nations can build irregulars ;). They do, sometimes. It can be rather annoying if they suddenly start spamming those troops, just because the player is conquering them :mad:, how dare they.

I see. Still, does not inspire me to play an unciv. I'm just stubborn I guess.:D
 
I see. Still, does not inspire me to play an unciv. I'm just stubborn I guess.:D

Lol, you never tried an unciv? Well you're not missing too much, they're usually just boring :p. But China can be fun IMO.

Anyway, even though uncivs can build irr, doesn't mean they should. Irregulars are just awful. Uncivs had better build native quality cavalry.
 
I expect you have it. The manual points out that HMS Government and Parliamentarism choose their ruling party by election while Law by Decree selects their ruling party (no elections), but other than that, you state the main difference.

Governments that have Law by Decree don't normally have elections, but that's caused by their constitution. If you are a con-mon or democracy with Law by Decree you do have elections, though I don't think any country has that combination in game. I tested this with an event.
 
France gets a Con. Mon. with Laws by Decree via the events surrounding the coup of Louis Napoleon.
But if you manually change to a democracy between the 'The Coup d'etat of Lous Napoleon' and the 'Louis Napoleon elected emperor' events
you can end up with a Con Mon. with Parliamentarism! Ruling Party changes for zero militancy! ;)
 
France gets a Con. Mon. with Laws by Decree via the events surrounding the coup of Louis Napoleon.
But if you manually change to a democracy between the 'The Coup d'etat of Lous Napoleon' and the 'Louis Napoleon elected emperor' events
you can end up with a Con Mon. with Parliamentarism! Ruling Party changes for zero militancy! ;)

Good idea! ConMon with Parliamentarism is the best you can have!
 
How about making the militancy change tied with pop conciousness. Surely an illiterate laborer or a factory worker in 1836 would care less about what those aristocrats are medling in goverment. Then clergy, aristocrats, officers and capitalist would take sides, as they know about politics. This would make the game harder as an Absolute Monarchy or a Constitutional one as the game goes on.