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You don't discuss it because it makes you look like a baddie. :p

You can discuss it (i.e. analyze it), but don't go celebrating or lamenting about it. That just makes you look bad.

That does explain why so little was said about the nightly hunts in some of those previous games. That much is true.
I did notice someone (marty?) saying something about the hunts adding to the analysis, but nobody was posting those analysis. I assumed the JL was discussing that stuff internally but I didn't realize that

a) since the JL won't discuss it openly because it might reveal too much about what they know
b) the village won't discuss it either since everyone wants to look like the JL.

Does that about sum it up?

This is actually the second day of voting. ;)

I didn't think the prize thing counted. At least I didn't treat it that way - though Rysz did.
 
there is no JL yet. Day One... so the seer has only scanned one other person. Two people does not a JL make.

AS for the lynching of Ironhead 5, while it is lamentable, it's a sound strategy by the baddies. he's canny and a good player. he's the type that a lot of wolves like to hit early on. wolves tend to go after guys who have positive reputations, and who have won a lot of games or done well in a lot of games. they don't go after jonti-h of course, because he's usually (and in this case) is a wolf.
 
I did notice someone (marty?) saying something about the hunts adding to the analysis, but nobody was posting those analysis.

That was me, and I wasn't posting it because I was already dead. :p

I assumed the JL was discussing that stuff internally but I didn't realize that

a) since the JL won't discuss it openly because it might reveal too much about what they know
b) the village won't discuss it either since everyone wants to look like the JL.

Does that about sum it up?

Well kinda. I've been the only one (that I know of) to add the hunts to the daily vote analysis posts (check Coruscant Night for this), and several people (Ironhead :p) still apparently think that it isn't important for analysis. That is why they aren't really discussed.

I didn't think the prize thing counted. At least I didn't treat it that way - though Rysz did.

Well you should be the one telling us whether the prize thing was real or not. ;)
 
Votecount

2: AVN <- randakar(332), rysz(339)
2: randakar <- AVN(316), cymsdale(314)
2: Jopi <- EUROO7(333), XenomorphII(335)
1: EUROO7 <- Jopi(332)
1: Capibara <- GeneralHannibal(323)
1: jonti-h <- Yakman(311)
1: Muttoneer <- Paendrag(336)
 
AS for the lynching of Ironhead 5, while it is lamentable, it's a sound strategy by the baddies. he's canny and a good player. he's the type that a lot of wolves like to hit early on.

It's a good strategy, but a win against a weak opponent isn't as good as a win against a strong opponent.

Not to mention that Ironhead has had a relatively quick exit from every game he's been in since he returned.
 
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2: AVN <- randakar(332), rysz(339)
2: randakar <- AVN(316), cymsdale(314)
2: Jopi <- EUROO7(333), XenomorphII(335)
1: EUROO7 <- Jopi(332)
1: Capibara <- GeneralHannibal(323)
1: jonti-h <- Yakman(311)
1: Muttoneer <- Paendrag(336)
Your votecounts make me uncomfortable.

I like them, but I don't.

I don't know what to do.
 
It's a good strategy, but a win against a weak opponent isn't as good as a win against a strong opponent.

Not to mention that Ironhead has had a relatively quick exit from every game he's been in since he returned.
true enough.

personally, i think wolves should try to go after guys who've won in the last few games. open up the playing field for everyone else. but what can i do... i'm never a wolf. :-(
 
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I don't think we should have any more candidates than the 5-6 we have already, if the voting is spread out too much we won't learn anything, as the wolves can vote on anyone they please without making it a throwaway
 
Ok, I must say that the wolves are really lame and unsportive. Is that a reward for hosting the previous game?
I think it's a result from hosting the previous game.

AS for the lynching of Ironhead 5, while it is lamentable, it's a sound strategy by the baddies. he's canny and a good player. he's the type that a lot of wolves like to hit early on. wolves tend to go after guys who have positive reputations, and who have won a lot of games or done well in a lot of games. they don't go after jonti-h of course, because he's usually (and in this case) is a wolf.
It could be part of a strategy or it could be random. Though I am thinking there was intent here. If I am a wolf I usually make the first hunt as random as possible, though if in my pack there is someone who wants to lynch a certain player, I will not oppose it unless it's tacticly bad. In one game I was really against hunting OrangeYoshi first night, since the guy was a vote-magnet at that time, drawing away attention from other targets (I think he still is a player who draws a more than average amount of votes).

I think this case is a bit special because there was a lot of whining and bitching about the last game. This should make Ironhead 5 a prime target for first day random votes, because we all know they are sometimes not completely random ;). However given the nature of the player concerned and taking into account that he can count on support to not lynch him the first day, someone decided to hunt him instead. This could have been random, but I think it is more likely that this person had a problem with the last game. A little grudge about the way it was GM-ed. While we all cry out as soon as there is a hint of metagaming, we all use it at one point in the game. I think that this was a metahunt. I hope that I am wrong, but I don't think I am.

Either he was hunted by someone who didn't like the last game or he was hunted by someone who wants to frame the people who didn't like last game. Like I said earlier, I think it is the first case, but there are just too many people who fit into that profile. When I started this post, I hadn't exactly realised that there are just too many possible suspects for this post to be of any use, so I just want to say that I think this is bad form.

Hunting the last GM the first night (while it is technically fair that he isn't excluded from the target list) excludes him from two games in a row. In one of these he tried to make the game more enjoyable for us. If a GM succeeded in that attempt or not should not matter. Anyway this is just a little food for thought. I have of course no idea if any special treatment is the case here and I am not against hunting the last GM early as long as he is given the same treatment as the other players.
 
Hunting the last GM the first night (while it is technically fair that he isn't excluded from the target list) excludes him from two games in a row. In one of these he tried to make the game more enjoyable for us. If a GM succeeded in that attempt or not should not matter. Anyway this is just a little food for thought. I have of course no idea if any special treatment is the case here and I am not against hunting the last GM early as long as he is given the same treatment as the other players.

Here Here!

Whomever killed the good doctor pulled a dick move. I suspect Snape.
 
Votecount:

2: AVN <- randakar(332), Rysz(339)
2: Capibara <- GeneralHannibal(323), marty99(351)
2: randakar <- AVN(316), Cymsdale(314)
1: EUROO7 <- Jopi(332)
1: jonti-h <- Yakman(311)
1: Jopi <- EUROO7(333)
1: Muttoneer <- Paendrag(336)
1: XenomorphII <- walrus(350)
1: Yakman <- XenomorphII(349)