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I am more of a "Big Picture" guy, I don't really have time for trivial details like how to spell someone's name.
- jonti-h
His day one vote got stuck on snoop and didn't budge. (Why? Isn't 'baaaaa' his style?)
His day 2 vote was on randakar (the known villager), running him up against Xarkan (the wolf) and never changed. On day three - well, his argument for why wolves would not switch away from xarkan applies to himself just as well. I have very little other evidence from the votecounts for or against him though so the best I can say is "he's jonti".
I hate to rain on your parade here:
1) I didn't see any late vote switching tomfoolery, and like snoopdogg, I think that co-ordonated vote swaps do little for analysis. So I wasn't there, but even if I had been, I'd probably have ignored the circle jerk of "everybody vote..." "now all vote ..."
2) You are not a known villager.
3) No, it doesn't apply to me as well, because I did switch away from Xarkan. Had I been a wolf, I'd have known that he was also one, and hanged him. I also mentioned more than once that Xarkan should be at least TIEd with snoop, because he never refuted the charge of lycanthropy.
4) If that is the best you can do, then you must be a wolf because you are alway evil. The stats prove it.
Now, having killed OY early last game, I'd not do it again. I am not that merciless and I certainly would not have hunted AOK early. Look for wolves without spines, and the job is done.
I move Nautilu back to the top of my suspect list for now, seeing as his tie vote was more suspicious than that it cleared him.
SBR gets a 'less suspicious than others' pass for the moment. I agree that he's definitely not cleared.
trespoe said:
Thanks.
But I like some rain!
Seriously, I'm not that great at analysis so criticisms are welcome.
jonti-h said:
The first day vote just gives us very little information and since I was mostly looking at votes I wanted to mention it. I don't really know much about your playing style yet (you tend to live quite a bit under the radar) so someone else might be able to say if you doing this is normal behaviour or not.
jonti-h said:
To me I am. So when analysing votes to determine who *I* think are wolves this is a more than valid assumption.
I understand that you don't agree with that assumption. For your own analysis you cannot use it, nor am I asking you to. But if somebody asks me who I think the wolves are I do get to use it.
jonti said:
Hmn, that's something I missed. The lists don't show it.
I don't think this clears you really. You could switch off just to be able to make the "wolves wouldn't switch off" argument.
Good point.
Five games, three times a wolf, two times a villager. Statistically speaking it is time for me to be a villager again. And guess what? I am just happen to be one.
This is not a serious argument. Let me make a similar argument against you:
You are jonti-h. You have won too many games. So we should lynch you because if you're a wolf you're too dangerous and hide too easily.
Seriously, you're mostly on my suspect list because I don't have much to go on either way. Just lack of information. Personally I believe Nautilu, Jester and Split are much more suspicious. But you're definitely not cleared.
Those are good arguments. Thank you.
Votecount - Day 4
7 hours to deadline
Jester180 - 3
snoopdogg [317], randakar [326], trespoe [340]
Randakar - 1
walrus [323]
Nautilu - 1
sbr [331]
Not voted: EURO, split, jester, jonti-h, nautilu
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To the People's Justice League: Can we run up Nautilu a bit more, please?
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Split running up Rysz early makes him drop down a few notches on the supect list too. Hence, Nautilu.
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randakar said:
Split running up Rysz early makes him drop down a few notches on the supect list too. Hence, Nautilu.
jonti-h said:
Mind elaborating why, by the way? I recall you being rather eager to eat AOK. 11 in my last lite game when he proved to be dangerous to the wolves. What would stop you from repeating this?
The game situation is different.
Hunting AOK.11 early is spineless. He is extremely good at finding wolves, and is probably the best analyst in the game. Therefore when he is not naming you, he is a hell of a threat, but also a challenge.
Last game, he was on to us. He knew I was a wolf, and it would have been only a matter of time until he could pin the rest of the pack. That is why I attempted to hunt him then, but I would not hunt him (if I were a wolf, which I am not) early in the game.
Vote Nautilu, on the request of the PJL
jonti-h said:
I am not the PJL. I was just asking them if this was an option.
But thanks for the confidence ;-)
Votecount - Day 4
4 hours 45 minutes to deadline
Jester180 - 3
snoopdogg [317], randakar [326], trespoe [340]
Nautilu - 3
sbr [331], walrus [323,350], jonti-h [351]
Not voted: EURO, split, jester, nautilu
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Well the People's Justice League is anyone who says they are
Damn, I wish Olaus was still playing - nobody could be as certain as he was (even when he was lying) and nobody could be as righteously outraged, even when justifiably lynched. Good times.
