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This crazy AAR just popped in my mind after following events: Soviets for some reason had been extreamly hostiles towards Fatherland and traiding rares is impossible. Not mention they broke non-aggression pact while I invaded Poland so I am forced to take ahistorical road now: I will dow Soviet Union before France. I am forced to do this because new AI is very clever and now it posses serious threat for me. Also I belive majority of historians also support my view that Nazi-Germany would have ignored western allies if Soviets dishonored Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

So now I will return to my game and post some pics soon...
 
I forgot to mention one important factory: this is -38 scenario, not -36.

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As told you, Soviets broke NA-pact so either I have any reasons to honour it.

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God has born :cool:

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France is kicking well so expanding siegfried-line is must. Also notice my rare consumption :(

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Submarine-warfare is doomed. Need new trategy to fight against allies.

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First Denmark...

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And then Baltic States!

Currently Im bulding infantry, tanks and planes. Sweden and Norway shall be soon conqueres and now Im wondeting should I dow Hungary and Italy to gain more rares?
 
hungary and italy are poor on rares if I recall correctly,
try to establish a trading relationship with the Benelux, they are rich in rares
Finland got some, too

but, of course, the bear has plenty;)
 
Citizens of German Reich, this is Reich’s Chancellor Adolf Hitler and I have announcement for German people. In this morning The Soviet Union started shelling German troops in Baltic States, Ukraine and Central Byelorussia. The Soviet Union started war against German Reich for purpose to start international Bolshevik revolution. The German people have always been guardians of European civilization and this duty remains. In Ancient times our enemies were Huns, in medieval times they were Mongols and today they are Russian Bolsheviks. While Civilizations of Europe fight civil war triumph of Bolsheviks is near and as a Reich’s Chancellor I tell you our struggle will be long and dark. Wehrmacht now faces hordes of Russians Bolsheviks and Western Democracies but German people will endure. In the end, there will be victory for German Reich!

- Adolf Hitler

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Hells gates have been opened :wacko:
 
I will make another update today to show you how I wrestle against bear ;)

Shouldn't you build some more synthetic rare plants? It could be a short-term solution.

Yes but as you said, short-term solution it is. They are extreamly ineffectice and they use oil so I will use them only when I have to. Zero oil -> defeat, zero rare -> defeat.

Folgore said:
There are probably a ton of rares in Amsterdam's stockpile. Go capture it.

My plans changed radically after Soviets dow so I rather not pull US into war but I will do that if it extends lifespan of Reich.

Mico94 said:
hungary and italy are poor on rares if I recall correctly,
try to establish a trading relationship with the Benelux, they are rich in rares
Finland got some, too

but, of course, the bear has plenty;)

They produce some rares and their army is weak but now I leave them alone. Soviets army is almost as huge as mine and I barely hold my positions now.
 
Main events of Second World War:

Second World War started when Nazi Germany invaded Poland for ethnical, geopolitical and ideological reasons. Nazi ideology viewed Bolshevik Soviet Union as a main threat for European civilization and German’s folk. Poland was also very unwelcome nation for Germany because of "Polish Corridor" trough Western Prussia habited by ethnic Germans. Until annexation of Czechoslovakia Germany hadn’t done any "aggressive" moves without blessing of Western Allies and after end of Czechoslovakia they saw Germany once again aggressive nation which would eventually go war against them. Hitler overlooked guarantee of Poland and surprisingly found being war against United Kingdom and France.

Main reason for defeat on previous war was two fronts and to eliminate that trouble Ribbentrop signed notorious deal with Molotov. However Stalin saw only little reason to honor this secret treaty and cancelled non-aggression pact soon after invasion of Poland. German high command and ruling Nazi party were in serious troubles. Threat of Soviet invasion was obvious and material reserves were running empty before end of year. Eastern Poland and Baltic states were quickly occupied to by precious time and land against Soviets but 10th of October Soviet Union crossed border.

In Germany situation was devastating. France was untouched, allied air raids were every daily and surface fleet was still under process. However Red Army performed poorly by any standards and surprise attack was total failure. Soviet invasion in Baltic States ended in catastrophe after co-operation of Rommel, von Manstein and Model. Soviet army was encircled in Tallinn and road to Leningrad is open.
In south von Rundstedt blitzed trough western Ukraine and captured Kiev and Don Basin.

Nations of Europe have risen against Soviet Union but in same time found themselves against Western Allies. Spain and Portugal are certainly doomed but Italy, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Greece has better position. Now is cold November day and next year will be clash of titans. Will Germany overrun Soviet Union or not? Not a single shot have been shot in Siegfried-Maginot line but situation can change. May God shelter Europe in this bloodiest war of history...

Quite quiet here but after some nice pictures and chat I belive readers will appear.
 
Argh! I just lost one panzerarmy mysteriously. Shortly after finishing second pocket in Russia my panzers reached their goal and disappered. Quite irritating I say.

But I will update my situation tomorrow. It is really intresting see if raw materials wont run out before I defeat Soviets. Actually energy and metals are running dangerous low but AI hapily trades suply for resources so more time -> victory.
 
So will you modify the Bitter Peace event so that you do not require Paris or are you going to try a war on two fronts? Or are you going to go for annex of USSR?
 
Argh! I just lost one panzerarmy mysteriously. Shortly after finishing second pocket in Russia my panzers reached their goal and disappered. Quite irritating I say.

This is a bug IIRC. Something to do with the game thinking there is no oil in the province so they evaporate instead of grinding to a halt
 
This is a bug IIRC. Something to do with the game thinking there is no oil in the province so they evaporate instead of grinding to a halt

I am aware of that and bliztkrieg in Russia is really nerve breaking because of that bug. But fear not, I have only couple weeks old save as I saw wisely to save often so I have "back up" and I need only paste that file in my current save.

So will you modify the Bitter Peace event so that you do not require Paris or are you going to try a war on two fronts? Or are you going to go for annex of USSR?

Hm, I havent even thought that far yet. Last save is march -40 and according war history Soviets become insane powerfull after year -42 so thats my ultimate time limit. To be realistic even now I have great difficulties to destroy Red Army thanks to France and I dont belive I can win this war. Even if I beat Soviets or France my resource pool is running empty so I dont have enough industrial capacity to support my war of conquest. Quite difficult I say. Only effective strategy now is to pocket as many Soviet division as I can to prevent Red Army growing too large. Even thought France AI has been modded not to attack Siegfried-line she has happily marched into Milan because Italian AI is modded to go into Egypt no matter if Milan is doomed. This flaw forced me to put some divs there to prevent collapse of Italy and I must say French AI has been impressive brave when she sacrified over 6 division using VoV-command in Nice. They were all killed but so my troops run out of steam :cool:

no worries is all only part of gamey punishment for taking baltics from Russia ;)

Bah! Soviet AI is gamey for being able to break non-aggression pact :rofl:

And update with pictures tomorrow :)
 
This is what you get for messing with the baltic states, now suffer their furr... err... oh, never mind that :rofl:
Well, you're screwed anyways, USSR AI doesn't like when you take the Baltic States...
 
This is what you get for messing with the baltic states, now suffer their furr... err... oh, never mind that :rofl:
Well, you're screwed anyways, USSR AI doesn't like when you take the Baltic States...

You know what? Im not giving up. I will fight until Fatherland is utterly defeated or has reached complitely victory. So long as my Reich stands there will be total war and no peace!

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In this update I will clarify my military and economical situation and economy will go first:

Like name of this aar my main problems are rare materials. Bad news is: no-onne product any surplus but good news is: I can still trade them using negotiations and AI hapily trades rares to suply so my industry may collapse after year or two. Perhabs time to loot Amsterdam before shortage strikes out? :p

And military... by pictures :cool:

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Yugoslavia is better to dissolute before she joins allies. Also now I dont have to worry anything in Balkans.

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And messed Balkan. Hungarys cores were main factor for strange borders.

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Siegfried-lines garrison.

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Army in Denmark.

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Army group North.

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Army group Centern.

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And Army Group South.

As you can see my army is really puny and definetly over expanded. And still I have to conquer more to gain more resources and encircle more divisions to protect Fatherland. I absolutely love despair but still hope-rich situation :cool: :D :rofl:

And for last some military intellience. Im not war with US yet but few spies are sent to Manhattan.

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In next update...

BLITZKRIEG! ACHTUNG PANZER!

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Quess what? I defeated Soviets after all. Red Army consist only 60 divisions now and I have open road to Stalingrad and Baku. Resources are running dangerous low... but wait I mean it this time and I propably have said it too many times :rolleyes: The only way how I can support my warmachine is over product suply and trade it away using diplomatic negotiations. Oil is most serious problem. If I had failed to defeat Soviets before -40 wintern I had lost the war. Simple math: 6000/100=60 days.

So any suggestion what I do now? Shall I roll panzers into France? Start nuclear program or build huge navy to challenge US and UK? Or end this aar? You say.
 
Finish the soviets, defeat france, then navy and nuclearresearch at the same time, when you finish your research on nukes, start your nuclear program.
 
HOW EAST WAS WON. PART - 1

This update is pretty huge because I want analyze actions of AI and show some serious flaws. Also I agreed that Soviets are underpowered because their full planned economy and drafted army makes upgraiding so expencive and time-taking they cant ever have huge and capable army. In next game I will give commitern +20% IC bonus.

But now...


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Bliztkrieg starts. Goals are pocketing Soviets troops in Minsk-region and then attacking from there to Moscow, Leningrad or East-Ukraine.

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Soviets gave some unexpected hard defence so in this point possibility of defeat was an realistic option.

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Minsk-pocket almost created. First serious flaw of AI: it doesnt defend keyprovinces or doesnt regocnize them before war is actually there. I have seen AI leaving Leningrad undefended. But this time I used paratroopers to capture Smolenks, the key of Moscow.

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French AI defend fiercy her Italian border. Even at this point I can see that French AI has been programmed to defend her border even if it would destroy her armies because after I recovered panzers org and started second offencive I simply overrunned French.
Italy is also pretty pathetic. La Spezia-or someting has French garrison but Italy doesnt make any attempts to recapture it! What a joke, later on Bulgarians under my control liberated it.

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Minks-pocket.

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Emr, two same pictures? No because Im showing Soviets counter-attack in this one. AI is definetly more aggressive but she doesnt regocnize danger of being encircled. Later this topic while blitzing to Leningrad.

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Another new pocket in progress. AI definetly doesnt understant dangers and she leaves her troops into certain destruction.

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And battle of Nice end...

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Paulus in front of Moscow.

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Moscow was conquered by Guderians panzers. Against human oppenent I wouldnt ever to this crazy manuver. Like my armies are in Belarussia now and only thing between Guderian and Minsk are paratroopers in Smolenks. Even half-hearted encircle-attempt would have destroyed me.

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At this point I ended my first session because Geyr von toohardtowrites blitz-unit disappered and I had to mod it back. However I have no idea where to mod away that clock. Tips anyone?

I ended here my first part of Soviet destruction campaing. Althought Im extreamly negative I dont meant to say that AoD sucks. It is far superior that HOI2 but unbalanced and bugged. I know people are reading or atleat looking pictures and I would like to talk this game more.

Players also complain having problems to find enough rares as a Germany. I say that is true because rares are converted from oil and you have only one source of oil: Romania. My strategy to run economy is: dont annex every nation. You need allies to harvest resources. Best strategy would be pupeting whole Europe because you would get all resources from pupet after she has reached 1000-limit.
Resources can be traded also for another resources. And only unlimited resource is suply. So product suply like crazy and trade it using diplomaic negotiations. In traiding suply isnt so effective as in negotiations.
Also material converting faculties are needed. But they are highly uneffective. They are your last tool so use them when you need buy more time, dont relly your strategy on those plants.

Go for navy. The patch should be here soon, so the naval issues should be solved. It is always fun to challenge Uk and USA in the naval game.

I propably build huge navy. East is almost conquered.

Finish the soviets, defeat france, then navy and nuclearresearch at the same time, when you finish your research on nukes, start your nuclear program.

Sounds like a plan.
 
The VoV-ing happening in France has to do with the garrison division. If one garrison is in a stack, the AI will do VoV each and every time - only fleeing when the garrison is dead. I has been reported as a bug I think